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  • Re: KTM 200 Duke

    I fill up to tankful every 2nd weekend. I've calculated the fuel efficiency about 6 times and the figures have hovered between 28 to 32 km/L (in 100% city riding)
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      In running in period...getting abt 45kmpl...not tankful to tankful method..I fill just 500bucks at a time..Is it OK ?? Mostly highway riding..
      Also I noticed splus doing 80-100kmph in 5th gear..I immediately switch to 6th at 50kmph. Am I doing any wrong here..Any help would be appreciated to really keep my Duke mechanically as nice as possible

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        Originally posted by wallpapers123 View Post
        In running in period...getting abt 45kmpl...not tankful to tankful method..I fill just 500bucks at a time..Is it OK ?? Mostly highway riding..
        Also I noticed splus doing 80-100kmph in 5th gear..I immediately switch to 6th at 50kmph. Am I doing any wrong here..Any help would be appreciated to really keep my Duke mechanically as nice as possible
        not wrong, but if you want to hit the top quickly then shift late. If you shift at 50 kmph, going above 122~125 is very difficult or needs a very long stretch.

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          Originally posted by wallpapers123 View Post
          In running in period...getting abt 45kmpl...not tankful to tankful method..I fill just 500bucks at a time..Is it OK ?? Mostly highway riding..
          Also I noticed splus doing 80-100kmph in 5th gear..I immediately switch to 6th at 50kmph. Am I doing any wrong here..Any help would be appreciated to really keep my Duke mechanically as nice as possible
          When I read your first line I was like "wth, how are you getting 45 kmpl???". I get normally around 30 kmpl in city riding.
          But then when I read the rest I understood...

          Well, it's about the riding style. There's no right or wrong here, so no worries.
          If your most important thing is mileage then yeah, go slow in high gears (but without lugging the engine, of course). But then you're riding your Duke as if it's a Honda Unicorn, slow and easy commuter way. And Duke doesn't really like low speed, so it's not really a perfect bike for that kind of riding...
          If you want to enjoy a machine such as Duke to its fullest then watch the rpms instead of speed, and watch to stay in power band and not go below 5-6k rpm, whatever the gear.
          Higher rpms will give you an instant surge of power at a twist of the throttle, with great control of the bike, whereas low rpms don't have much power and not much control.
          It doesn't mean you have to go fast, but just a few gears lower than how you normally use it now. At first it might look you're stressing your engine too much but if you use it for a day or two you'll get used to it and will understand it's simply a different kind of a machine than some that like to be ridden in low rpms. Duke has a high revving engine and its power is above 6-7k rpm.

          Basically, if you want to have more fun keep the revs above 6-7k rpms and shift gears at 8-9k rpm, and if you want more mileage keep the revs in lower rpms. Both cases are regardless of the speed, it's all about rpms.
          Higher rpms = more power, lower rpms = more mileage. Duke makes its peak power at 10k rpm. But then the sad part is the rev limiter kicks in just 500 rpm later...

          But check some posts before in this thread about running in - don't baby your bike too much. You'll just glaze your cylinder walls if you keep it in low rpms all the time, and you'll end up with an engine that will give you a lower mileage and less power. It's more harmful to lug your engine at this point than to redline it.
          Pull it up to 7-8k rpm sometimes for short periods of time, the engine needs to break in, and can't do that if you ride it ONLY in low rpms. Don't worry, it's a modern rev happy engine, you can almost redline it out of a showroom, it won't damage it. Just don't do it for longer time...
          And if you're riding it mostly in highway then don't forget to change rpms and gears often. Do NOT ride at constant rpms for long time.
          Last edited by splus; 07-18-2013, 01:24 AM.

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            FE in my Duke is a bit strange, it keep getting an avg between 32-37kmpl both in city as well as in highway. Tankful to tankful method :O
            07 HH Zma
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            14 Ford Figo 1.4 TDCI (Now Caged:( )
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              Originally posted by splus View Post
              When I read your first line I was like "wth, how are you getting 45 kmpl???". I get normally around 30 kmpl in city riding.
              But then when I read the rest I understood...

              Well, it's about the riding style. There's no right or wrong here, so no worries.
              If your most important thing is mileage then yeah, go slow in high gears (but without lugging the engine, of course). But then you're riding your Duke as if it's a Honda Unicorn, slow and easy commuter way. And Duke doesn't really like low speed, so it's not really a perfect bike for that kind of riding...
              If you want to enjoy a machine such as Duke to its fullest then watch the rpms instead of speed, and watch to stay in power band and not go below 5-6k rpm, whatever the gear.
              Higher rpms will give you an instant surge of power at a twist of the throttle, with great control of the bike, whereas low rpms don't have much power and not much control.
              It doesn't mean you have to go fast, but just a few gears lower than how you normally use it now. At first it might look you're stressing your engine too much but if you use it for a day or two you'll get used to it and will understand it's simply a different kind of a machine than some that like to be ridden in low rpms. Duke has a high revving engine and its power is above 6-7k rpm.

              Basically, if you want to have more fun keep the revs above 6-7k rpms and shift gears at 8-9k rpm, and if you want more mileage keep the revs in lower rpms. Both cases are regardless of the speed, it's all about rpms.
              Higher rpms = more power, lower rpms = more mileage. Duke makes its peak power at 10k rpm. But then the sad part is the rev limiter kicks in just 500 rpm later...

              But check some posts before in this thread about running in - don't baby your bike too much. You'll just glaze your cylinder walls if you keep it in low rpms all the time, and you'll end up with an engine that will give you a lower mileage and less power. It's more harmful to lug your engine at this point than to redline it.
              Pull it up to 7-8k rpm sometimes for short periods of time, the engine needs to break in, and can't do that if you ride it ONLY in low rpms. Don't worry, it's a modern rev happy engine, you can almost redline it out of a showroom, it won't damage it. Just don't do it for longer time...
              And if you're riding it mostly in highway then don't forget to change rpms and gears often. Do NOT ride at constant rpms for long time.
              Thanks splus will try and rev the engine more from now for small intervals...but since I have bought the bike hardly a day or two has gone by without rains...soo I wouldn't risk going at high speeds much....today for the first time ever it wasn't raining here and went till 6000rpm for the first time and man the bIke makes a different noise there...😍
              I know I am used to riding on highway at constant speeds at low constant RPMs...will Definately change my throttle style for her..just waiting for the rains to go the **** away..!!!
              Thanks again needed someones experienced advice..😊


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                Originally posted by wallpapers123 View Post
                Thanks splus will try and rev the engine more from now for small intervals...but since I have bought the bike hardly a day or two has gone by without rains...soo I wouldn't risk going at high speeds much....today for the first time ever it wasn't raining here and went till 6000rpm for the first time and man the bIke makes a different noise there...😍
                I know I am used to riding on highway at constant speeds at low constant RPMs...will Definately change my throttle style for her..just waiting for the rains to go the **** away..!!!
                Thanks again needed someones experienced advice..😊

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                Yeah, don't go faster, especially in rains. Safety first. But just ride with a gear or two lower than you're riding now. At same speed...
                You'll have a little lower mileage but after you're done with run in you can ride whatever style you prefer.

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                  Originally posted by onlinesatish View Post
                  FE in my Duke is a bit strange, it keep getting an avg between 32-37kmpl both in city as well as in highway. Tankful to tankful method :O
                  Not sure just a thought but won't the tankful method be less fuel economic...I mean u will be carrying 10.5litres of fuel around...and also the speed will matter again due to the extra weight..?
                  Just like the performance drops if there's a pillion with u..


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                    Originally posted by wallpapers123 View Post
                    Not sure just a thought but won't the tankful method be less fuel economic...I mean u will be carrying 10.5litres of fuel around...and also the speed will matter again due to the extra weight..?
                    Just like the performance drops if there's a pillion with u..


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                    thats on paper, in real world, the difference would negligible. But bike feels planted with tankful of petrol. And i like to ride the duke with a pillion, its more stable, goes over potholes smoother except for hard acceleration. Anyway i dont rip with a pillion as its very scary for them
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                    14 Ford Figo 1.4 TDCI (Now Caged:( )
                    16 Scooty Zest
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                      Originally posted by wallpapers123 View Post
                      Not sure just a thought but won't the tankful method be less fuel economic...I mean u will be carrying 10.5litres of fuel around...and also the speed will matter again due to the extra weight..?
                      Just like the performance drops if there's a pillion with u..

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                      Tankfull to tankfull is the only accurate method to measure mileage.

                      About the mileage and extra weight - nah, too small of a difference. You anyway have to have minimum several liters in the tank because of FI pump.

                      And as for performance and weight - well, let me see from my experience.
                      Top speed alone - 134 kmh at cut out. With pillion, full packed saddle and tank bags - also 134 kmh.
                      Yesterday I did 134 kmh alone on a highway with full tank bag, seated normally, not crouched, no wind, even road. And then the road went slightly uphill for 500 meters, and the bike didn't slow down one bit.
                      If there was no rev limiter at 134 kmh it would go faster...

                      So much about weight and performance of the Duke.
                      Enjoy your bike, no need to think much about this one, everything is top notch.

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                        Do I need to get the air filter checked Coz in the last couple of days it had rained a lot and even the back of my radiator has dry mud accumulated now...wud it affect the bikes performance any way..??


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                          Somebody please help me. After I ride my bike theres a wide grin on my face for next 30 minutes. I feel so embarrassing as people might think I am an idiot to be smiling for no reason.

                          The acceleration, gearbox, handling everything makes the ride a joy. Upside down forks do contribute a lot to the handling of the bike.

                          The more you ride it the more you enjoy it. After the 1st servicing, it easily touches 120 even with an 80 Kg pillion.

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                            Originally posted by chinmayakar View Post
                            Somebody please help me. After I ride my bike theres a wide grin on my face for next 30 minutes. I feel so embarrassing as people might think I am an idiot to be smiling for no reason.

                            The acceleration, gearbox, handling everything makes the ride a joy. Upside down forks do contribute a lot to the handling of the bike.

                            The more you ride it the more you enjoy it. After the 1st servicing, it easily touches 120 even with an 80 Kg pillion.
                            Have the same thing today dude...touched 80 in 6th gear...thanks to the rain gods the roads were dry....It is awesome...KTM should open the showrooms on the highway and gice test rides there....their sales will shot up like hell!!!!

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                              Originally posted by chinmayakar View Post
                              Somebody please help me. After I ride my bike theres a wide grin on my face for next 30 minutes. I feel so embarrassing as people might think I am an idiot to be smiling for no reason.

                              The acceleration, gearbox, handling everything makes the ride a joy. Upside down forks do contribute a lot to the handling of the bike.

                              The more you ride it the more you enjoy it. After the 1st servicing, it easily touches 120 even with an 80 Kg pillion.
                              I'm afraid it's an incurable problem... Nothing can be done to help.
                              But I know something to make your "condition" even worse, if you're interested...

                              I just saw on Kiirus FB pagehttps://www.facebook.com/KIIRUSAUTOSPORTS that their ECU remap for Duke went from Rs 10,000 to Rs 8,500 starting from July.

                              Additionally, on their FB page there's a post from some moto group from Kerala that did a drag race between 2 Dukes, one with Kiirus ECU and one with RaceDynamics ECU to test which one is better. They both offer increased power across entire rev range with 3 extra hp (from 25 to 28 hp), and rev limiter moved to 11,700 rpm. 0 to 100 kmh in 8 sec, down from stock 9 sec, top speed 150 kmh.

                              (Note: Drag video is on Kiirus FB page but it's made by the moto group from Kerala, and it's worth a strong condemnation for having a high speed drag in a middle of traffic. Crazy. Really, really bad place to do such a test.)

                              Here's the text from that specific post:
                              We r d no.1 riders club in Kerala.. Have 10+ dukes.. and btw 2 is ecu remapped.. One is u r product (KIIRUS tuned) and d another is from POWERTRONIS (racedynamics).. We chckd d potetial through a drag nd u r products simply rOcKz..!

                              Tried 3 times.. Riders wt same weight... Same skills.... Same tyre pressure...! U r product hve d advantage on both initial, mid range nd top end... Itz clocking 150 kmph+ in a 1.6 km stretch

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                              Last edited by splus; 07-18-2013, 12:50 PM.

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                                Originally posted by sivigshankar View Post
                                Mileage check - Tank full to tank full method : 270 kms at 7.19 liters ; 37.55 kmpl.. Odo reading - 16500+ kms... Should I feel happy about this ??
                                Originally posted by sivigshankar View Post
                                City riding mostly.. Santhome to Navallur through ECR road.. average speed should be around 35-45kmph.. as per the odo.. then I did redline and cross 110 at times.. mostly very sedate riding from my end
                                Hey Shiv, did You change Your riding style? I remember You saying that You hardly use top two gears when inside the city. Duke being a short geared bike can easily potter around 40 in the top gear... Instead of cribbing about mileage You could have gone for a 4 speed 100cc commuter bike where You could get an excellent mileage and You could happily use all the 4 gears.
                                Last edited by Ri$hi; 07-18-2013, 01:34 PM.

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