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    Default Re: KTM 200 Duke

    Quote Originally Posted by philip.gunner View Post
    Well my original post got deleted while trying to edit it, alongwith today's reply. VJ if you undo the 5 day old deleted post then kindly do so.


    My coolant level drops, mentioning oil was a typo.


    So I might have to check for head gasket leak. I do get some burning smell sometimes, is it due to boiling of coolant?


    And when is a good time to check for the white smoke? At cool start and high revs at idling?
    if you recently drained and filled up coolant, it is normal to see a little drop over a couple of days.. top it off and ride.. thereafter there should be nil to negligible drop in coolant levels.
    if you are constantly observing coolant drop, there could be a few things causing this:
    1. A small leak externally
    2. A failed waterpump seal.
    3. A failed headgasket.

    I suggest you first pay attention to the first two.. look around the hose pipes/radiator area for any leaks. And also take a sample of the coolant from radiator and engine oil and check.
    then maybe replace the waterpump and the seals (comes as a kit). Drain and refill fresh coolant and engine oil. Keep an eye on the coolant level and oil condition.

    now coming to smoke part.. a tiny leak from a head gasket failure might not cause noticeable smoke. but if the leak is big enough you should be seeing whitish smoke.
    if you see bluish smoke, then it is definitely the oil which is getting into the combustion chamber either due to bad valve oil seals or worn piston rings.
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    During last month by bike was shutting down (console going off) due to blowing up of Fuse no 8. There was a short circuit (less than 100 Ohms) between the Fuse 8 terminal and the chassis. I had tried disconnecting many sensors and the cable joints but the short still remained. In the end the short would disappear after disconnecting the ECU.

    After disconnecting the ECU the resistance between Fuse 8 and chassis would be infinity. But after reconnecting the ECU, there would not be a short circuit, instead I would get a value of 2000 kOhms to 6000 kOhms. At this value the fuse does not blow.

    The bike was given to ASC and they found the speed sensor cable was damaged and it was replaced. My coolant level reduction problem was resolved after replacing the water pump seal.

    But the fuse 8 blowing up issue has now come up again after 1000kms post ASC repair. The speed sensor cable seems fine visually this time.
    Measured the resistance between fuse and chassis and value was near 200 Ohms, hence fuse blowing up.

    So I disconnected the ECU, measured resistance between fuse 8 & chassis and value was infinity and then reconnected ECU and resistance was 2kOmhs. So now the fuse 8 is fine.

    Can someone please check what is the resistance value between fuse 8 and chassis on their bikes? Measurements were done when the key was OFF. The chassis reference point used by me are the allen bolts of grab handle or the hex bolts of the tail light.

    I don’t understand why I get infinity reading with ECU disconnected and then fluctuating readings (sometime 2k and 6k) when ECU is connected. If there is some harness problem (cable core is touching with chassis) then shouldn’t the resistance readings be constant irrespective of ECU connection?
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    My speedometer suddenly started during 0kmph while riding. They after a few mins the idling rpm started fluctuating as well.

    The last time the speedometer was showing zero kmph the stator was replaced.

    But facing the idling RPM fluctuation for the first time. The bike was also not cranking. I'm not near home so won't be able to check battery voltage for a week or so.

    Any list of suspected faulty parts for the above faults?

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    Default Re: KTM 200 Duke

    Like there’s a 99rpm.com for Bajaj, is there a similar site for buying spares online for the KTMs?

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    Default Re: KTM 200 Duke

    Quote Originally Posted by philip.gunner View Post
    My speedometer suddenly started during 0kmph while riding. They after a few mins the idling rpm started fluctuating as well.

    The last time the speedometer was showing zero kmph the stator was replaced.

    But facing the idling RPM fluctuation for the first time. The bike was also not cranking. I'm not near home so won't be able to check battery voltage for a week or so.

    Any list of suspected faulty parts for the above faults?
    Rpm fluctuating could be coz of throttle body clogging with unwanted materials leading to issue in opening and closing of the valve. If it's showing zero under 20km speed with headlights on then it could be stator coil.

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    Default Re: KTM 200 Duke

    Quote Originally Posted by philip.gunner View Post
    My speedometer suddenly started during 0kmph while riding. They after a few mins the idling rpm started fluctuating as well.

    The last time the speedometer was showing zero kmph the stator was replaced.

    But facing the idling RPM fluctuation for the first time. The bike was also not cranking. I'm not near home so won't be able to check battery voltage for a week or so.

    Any list of suspected faulty parts for the above faults?
    Does the bike reset, all lights go off and come back while trying cranking?
    If yes, then its the RR/Alternator unit. Period.

    Get the battery charged outside, put it back and try to start it, if it starts on 1st try. Then its definitely the RR unit.
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    Post Re: KTM 200 Duke

    Quote Originally Posted by philip.gunner View Post

    But facing the idling RPM fluctuation for the first time. The bike was also not cranking. I'm not near home so won't be able to check battery voltage for a week or so.

    Any list of suspected faulty parts for the above faults?
    Two things, either your stator coil/RR is at fault or your battery is giving up, or a good battery not being charged due to the faulty former two components. A voltage check at the battery terminals will yield the right result. Idling trouble comes down to a couple of things, faulty stepper motor, clogged/fuel filter throttle body and or faulty fuel pump providing poor rail pressure or just simply old and fouled fuel. If your bike has been parked for months, chance are very high your fuel might have rotten causing idling and misfiring. Remove the old fuel and use fresh fuel, and observe if it helps.

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    Default Re: KTM 200 Duke

    Quote Originally Posted by philip.gunner View Post
    My speedometer suddenly started during 0kmph while riding. They after a few mins the idling rpm started fluctuating as well.

    The last time the speedometer was showing zero kmph the stator was replaced.

    But facing the idling RPM fluctuation for the first time. The bike was also not cranking. I'm not near home so won't be able to check battery voltage for a week or so.

    Any list of suspected faulty parts for the above faults?
    most likely a faulty rr unit. do you see the check engine light flash ? i came across a duke with a similar issue at the svc, it had a blink code (don't remember the code pattern), it was fixed by replacing the rr unit.
    bike was not cranking ? maybe the battery is low on charge because the rr unit conked off and did not charge the battery.
    worse case, it could be the stator coil again along with the rr unit. Do get it checked at the svc.

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