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**gixxer_junkie_m** · 08-04-2011, 06:57 PM

Originally posted by Sarvajit View Post

That is all I wanted to know. I'm not new to idling adjustment bro-have done it many times earlier. Will check out the idling in a day or two after riding for a slightly longer distance.
As for the spark plug, I'll ride it alteast for 100 kms. before pulling it out to see the color!

Bro,i'm telling you ,1km is the same as running for 100kms when it comes to checking the plug.It's a different thing altogether when checking main-jet/ or doing jetting.
Everything effects the other.So yes it will change the idling and vice-versa.

**Sarvajit** · 08-04-2011, 06:59 PM

Originally posted by gixxer_junkie_m View Post

Bro,i'm telling you ,1km is the same as running for 100kms when it comes to checking the plug.It's a different thing altogether when checking main-jet/ or doing jetting.
Everything effects the other.So yes it will change the idling and vice-versa.

Got it. Will check the idling first, set that right on warm engine, ride for a while&then check the plug.

**Rafting Guru** · 08-04-2011, 07:48 PM

Originally posted by Sarvajit View Post

That sounds amazing-did you replace the suspension?
I thought you got some repair done?
Anyway, all I can say is "Classic Fiero IS on the move again!"!

Actually the earlier rear suspension were of victor or Star, I don't remember were working fine but it has increased the height of bike and above that the rear Tyre was Geo-cruiser 100-90 which again increased the height and I being short heighted handling was bit difficult so thought of going stock
so ordered new Gabriel Fiero shocks from Dehradun BM TVS which took exactly 6 and 1/2 months to arrive

Originally posted by gixxer_junkie_m View Post

Pulsar set-up on my girl had cost me 7k back in 2004.The problem at that time was that the disc brake parts were available from bajaj ASS only and not at other spare shops.Then each part had to be bought individually and not as a kit.So i had to pay tax,vat etc on each and every part individually! Now i don't know,it might be available as a kit and hence might be cheaper.Back then the TVS girling(F2 and Fiero) disc brake kit was costing 6k.But i opted for the pulsar set-up as it was available freely and it was on the right side too.

My suggestion would be to buy used parts,i'd do it if i were to do it all over again.You can buy the whole pulsar disc brake set-up for less than 2k i think.

If you are interested in the apache petal disc,then you'd better go for the alloy wheels too,because it would need F2's hub in case you want to use the spoke set-up and F2 hub is pretty much impossible to find.

My advise? go for the pulsar set-up.Either you opt for spoke pulsar set-up ,or the alloy one .They both will be cheaper now than what i paid for the same and if you are averse to buying used parts.You can source the same pulsar ones from spares shops too, cheaply.In case,if you are ok with used parts,then go for the alloy used wheels of the pulsar and mix them with new disc brake parts etc.

Yeah, Gixxer one thing creeps on to my mind about right sided disc as in Pulsar and left sided in F2 set up.. is there any advantage of Pulsar set up being on right? just a query but decided to go for pulsar set up and again what would be the approx cost of upgrading RTR 180 with used head and fresh head

**gixxer_junkie_m** · 08-04-2011, 08:49 PM

Originally posted by Rafting Guru View Post

Yeah, Gixxer one thing creeps on to my mind about right sided disc as in Pulsar and left sided in F2 set up.. is there any advantage of Pulsar set up being on right? just a query but decided to go for pulsar set up and again what would be the approx cost of upgrading RTR 180 with used head and fresh head

No difference in braking etc.The difference is in finding the speedometer worm.Till suzuki zeus came ,there were no left side disk braked bikes in the country after the Fiero/F2 went out of production.So lot of fieros used to run without the speedo working.Were as if you fit the right side braking,then you can use hero honda bike's and yamaha bike's speedo worm.

The cost of 180 conversion.

1. RTR 160/180 bore kit= 2,300 (either one will bring the cc to 175/177)
2. Used RTR head = 1000
3. Cam chain tensioner= 300+/-

Or you can widen the fiero's head to match that of the RTR bore,so then you can use the existing head itself.Like me and nanotech are doing.This will cost a max of 100 bucks for 20 mins of lathe work.

**gixxer_junkie_m** · 08-04-2011, 09:21 PM

@Rafting guru

You can see the disc brake set-up of the pulsar on my girl.

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**Rafting Guru** · 08-05-2011, 12:22 PM

Originally posted by gixxer_junkie_m View Post

No difference in braking etc.The difference is in finding the speedometer worm.Till suzuki zeus came ,there were no left side disk braked bikes in the country after the Fiero/F2 went out of production.So lot of fieros used to run without the speedo working.Were as if you fit the right side braking,then you can use hero honda bike's and yamaha bike's speedo worm.

The cost of 180 conversion.

1. RTR 160/180 bore kit= 2,300 (either one will bring the cc to 175/177)
2. Used RTR head = 1000
3. Cam chain tensioner= 300+/-

Or you can widen the fiero's head to match that of the RTR bore,so then you can use the existing head itself.Like me and nanotech are doing.This will cost a max of 100 bucks for 20 mins of lathe work.

Roger that!! Gixxer
Now my hands are itching for mods... what all things are there in RTR 180 bore kit?
I think I will go for my fiero's head as it was rebored only once.
I have completed 1440 km in Odo and changed lube twice with filter once.
used Elf for 1st oil change and filter and used Yamahalube for 2nd change
My Fiero clocked more than 1lakh 20k before restoration

**Sarvajit** · 08-05-2011, 01:07 PM

Some common Fiero F2 spare prices

@gixxer_junkie_m: Here are the prices of the parts which I felt I may need to change:
Though all may not be required, atleast we have an idea of the expense involved.
Please suggest what all I should get-as you know, I'm planning to get suspension work done this month&other mechanical repairs next.
I'm doubtful about the fork tubes price mentioned-whether he is referring to outer or inner. Am sending my friend to confirm. Price seems very high compared to other parts!

F2 owners may also find this helpful.

1. Fork oil seals (pair) Rs.125
2. Fork springs Rs.350 (not in stock)
3. Fork tubes Rs.2200
4. Cone set Rs.400
5. LHS&RHS switch assembly Rs.950
6. Wheel bearing-front&rear Rs.550
7. Chain kit with front&rear sprockets Rs.750
8. Clutch plates Rs.220
9. Clutch springs Rs. 100
10. Clutch pressure plates Rs.200 (not in stock)
11. Air filter Rs.175
12. Front mudguard Rs.750
13. Swingarm bush Rs.150
14. Camchain Rs.550
15. Camchain tensioner Rs.550
16. Camchain guide Rs.unknown

**gixxer_junkie_m** · 08-05-2011, 04:15 PM

Originally posted by Rafting Guru View Post

Roger that!! Gixxer
Now my hands are itching for mods... what all things are there in RTR 180 bore kit?
I think I will go for my fiero's head as it was rebored only once.
I have completed 1440 km in Odo and changed lube twice with filter once.
used Elf for 1st oil change and filter and used Yamahalube for 2nd change
My Fiero clocked more than 1lakh 20k before restoration

Bore kit consists of:-

1. Cylinder (That is bore).
2. Piston
3. Rings
4. Packing and head gasket.

Since your bike hasn't done much with the re-bore,i'd suggest you run it till it comes to bore and then do the 180 conversion.For now you can go for the disc brake.

**gixxer_junkie_m** · 08-05-2011, 04:22 PM

Originally posted by Sarvajit View Post

@gixxer_junkie_m: Here are the prices of the parts which I felt I may need to change:
Though all may not be required, atleast we have an idea of the expense involved.
Please suggest what all I should get-as you know, I'm planning to get suspension work done this month&other mechanical repairs next.
I'm doubtful about the fork tubes price mentioned-whether he is referring to outer or inner. Am sending my friend to confirm. Price seems very high compared to other parts!

F2 owners may also find this helpful.

1. Fork oil seals (pair) Rs.125
2. Fork springs Rs.350 (not in stock)
3. Fork tubes Rs.2200
4. Cone set Rs.400
5. LHS&RHS switch assembly Rs.950
6. Wheel bearing-front&rear Rs.550
7. Chain kit with front&rear sprockets Rs.750
8. Clutch plates Rs.220
9. Clutch springs Rs. 100
10. Clutch pressure plates Rs.200 (not in stock)
11. Air filter Rs.175
12. Front mudguard Rs.750
13. Swingarm bush Rs.150
14. Camchain Rs.550
15. Camchain tensioner Rs.550
16. Camchain guide Rs.unknown

Everything is costlier than what will be at a spares shop bro.The price of fork tubes i think is almost more than 3times the price.

**abhilashabhi12** · 08-05-2011, 04:43 PM

Originally posted by gixxer_junkie_m View Post

Everything is costlier than what will be at a spares shop bro.The price of fork tubes i think is almost more than 3times the price.

Roger that.. Just to give you an example the front fork springs I changed recently at 180rs a pair.

@Sarvajit

Try in the local shops & I am sure you will save a lot of money

**gixxer_junkie_m** · 08-05-2011, 08:36 PM

@Sarvajit

About the fork tubes,try and ask as to how much to re-coat the tubes.That is,once again re-chroming it or nitriding it.Psr had told me about it.It might prove to be a cheaper and good solution to the scoured fork tube problem.

**Sarvajit** · 08-08-2011, 12:23 PM

Originally posted by gixxer_junkie_m View Post

@Sarvajit

About the fork tubes,try and ask as to how much to re-coat the tubes.That is,once again re-chroming it or nitriding it.Psr had told me about it.It might prove to be a cheaper and good solution to the scoured fork tube problem.

The tubes are scoured since they are bent. Have tried getting them straightned but only the outer one can be straightened. I told you about it over chat. Replacing is the only way out now. I'm fedup of cut oil seals.

Anyway, tell me about your&Abhi's carb tuning-how did it go?
I've messed up mine trying it on my own-now the bike doesn't start without open throttle when its cold, though it does when its warm!

Need a proper tune-up soon.

**gixxer_junkie_m** · 08-08-2011, 03:22 PM

Originally posted by Sarvajit View Post

The tubes are scoured since they are bent. Have tried getting them straightned but only the outer one can be straightened. I told you about it over chat. Replacing is the only way out now. I'm fedup of cut oil seals.

Anyway, tell me about your&Abhi's carb tuning-how did it go?
I've messed up mine trying it on my own-now the bike doesn't start without open throttle when its cold, though it does when its warm!

Need a proper tune-up soon.

I had also messed it up buddy

It needs a accurate digital tacho and a experienced ear to hear the engine sound for knocking.So,i had to go to the expert mech.Then since Abhi's girl "savitha babhi" has been drinking like crazy too,i thought i might as well ask him to bring her along for the tuning.

I am very happy with it,this mech does a good job and i won't be tampering with it for sure!

Keep it as it is,if at all anything needs adjusting,try and sort it out with the idling screw alone.Because carb tuning is best done with a Co machine and it needs some experience to make sure the engine isn't knocking/pinging.

Regarding fork tubes,yeah there's no alternative if it's bent.Till now i was under the impression that it was plain scouring.

**Sarvajit** · 08-08-2011, 03:56 PM

Ok, got it. Please describe in detail here or over chat how he tuned the carb-I couldn't follow what you were saying about all the way clockwise, then backwards with idle at 3.5K RPM.
I wanna try it on my own.

**gixxer_junkie_m** · 08-08-2011, 09:58 PM

@All

Today i got the RTR180's intake manifold installed on my bike.The result is a much,much smoother engine and free revving too!!
The credit here should go to Psr,because he was the one who told me that the RTR180 has a different intake manifold than that of the RTR160/fiero/F2/FX.He checked the parts manual and told me that they indeed were different,when the store guy at the ASS had told me otherwise.

Today i went to the TVS showroom and checked both the manifolds and the curios thing is that the difference is in the carb venturi side only.That is, the manifold's exit dia is similar to that of the RTR160/fiero's ,but the inlet dia is wider and thus creating a venturi effect.Price is 80 bucks,but worth more than that to the performance!!

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