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  • Re: Suzuki GS150R

    Originally posted by punarvasu View Post
    Ride the bike for about 1 km without applying front brake and stop. If the disc is hot the brake is jammed and if it is warm the brake is normal.
    Disc brake need not be and cannot be adjusted. As the bike is new, better don’t play with the brake.
    Rode the bike for 1.5km without applying front disc at all. Very slight difference in temperature noticed though it was still below room temperature i.e the disc still felt cold when i touched it. Then i went 0.9km downhill with applying front brake just enough to keep it engaged. When i touched it again it was so hot it almost burnt my hand.
    Conclusion: Front brakes seem very normal and never try touching the disc after any ride again

    BTW no jerks experienced today. The ones that i got were because i was little lazy to downshift gears and hence engine started knocking. My bad. But the jerks i reported previously have almost never appeared again after that 1-1.5hr of trouble. May be there were some particles in the fuel or something. I dont know. Cant really say
    Last edited by rsk_kelkar; 10-15-2013, 09:03 PM.

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    • Re: Suzuki GS150R

      Originally posted by punarvasu View Post
      If the front wheel rotates one or more times when rotated manually, it is perfect and that is how disc brakes are designed. Ride the bike for about 1 km without applying front brake and stop. If the disc is hot the brake is jammed and if it is warm the brake is normal.
      Disc brake need not be and cannot be adjusted. As the bike is new, better don’t play with the brake.
      there is a screeching sound when applying front brake...also the front wheel doesn't rotate normally..

      there are scratches around the disc and it does get hot even for a short ride..am worried the front disc got damaged..

      will go to SVC tomorrow....i have stopped using the front brake for a while...

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      • Re: Suzuki GS150R

        Originally posted by kksin123 View Post
        there are scratches around the disc and it does get hot even for a short ride..am worried the front disc got damaged.
        As I said earlier, disc brake cannot be adjusted. The sound and scratches and heat all are natural and need not be attended.
        Is the scratches more than this?
        Last edited by punarvasu; 10-15-2013, 10:39 PM.

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        • Re: Suzuki GS150R

          Are the discs interchangeable with that of any other bikes

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          Regards,
          Venky

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          • Re: Suzuki GS150R

            Originally posted by punarvasu View Post
            ...The battery on GS is not maintenance free. It requires regular topping up with distilled water and withstands the variations in the current from the RR...
            I believe only first batch (2009) had 9Ah Lead Acid wet battery; Mine (Oct-2010) has a MF Exide Freedom 7Ah battery. Wet batteries need regular checkup/top-ups, my Access125 May-2010 make has one, and it's dying.

            waiting for without clutch down shift RPMs for our GS.

            Originally posted by rsk_kelkar View Post
            ...Conclusion: Front brakes seem very normal and never try touching the disc after any ride again ...
            I see you've opened side panels, did you happen to see the make of the battery which resides under the left side panel?
            Last edited by SparKot; 10-16-2013, 02:18 AM.
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            • Re: Suzuki GS150R

              Originally posted by Jackson Andrade View Post
              Sorry Dear Ashwanth, I really meant this to other post. It was a mistake as I am new to
              xBhp
              Thats ok, I was just curious if you were referring to some rebored GS.
              Originally posted by rsk_kelkar View Post
              Rode the bike for 1.5km without applying front disc at all. Very slight difference in
              temperature noticed though it was still below room temperature i.e the disc still felt cold when i touched it. Then i went
              0.9km downhill with applying front brake just enough to keep it engaged. When i touched it again it was so hot it almost
              burnt my hand. Conclusion: Front brakes seem very normal and never try touching the disc after any ride again. BTW no
              jerks experienced today. The ones that i got were because i was little lazy to downshift gears and hence engine started
              knocking. My bad. But the jerks i reported previously have almost never appeared again after that 1-1.5hr of trouble. May
              be there were some particles in the fuel or something. I don't know. Cant really say
              I think you don't have any brake binding at front - It is normal for the disc brake to get hot even for short journeys.
              That puny 240 mm needs to shed the kinetic energy of both of you. Okay to be lazy upshifting, but not downshifting for the
              at least the first 1600 kms. As the manual says, accelerate freely in each gear during the running-in process. Don't
              cross 4500 rpm. Just take care not to lug engine in this period. The jerks have disappeared so stop worrying for now and
              enjoy the ride.
              Originally posted by kksin123 View Post
              there is a screeching sound when applying front brake...also the front wheel doesn't rotate
              normally..there are scratches around the disc and it does get hot even for a short ride..am worried the front disc got
              damaged..will go to SVC tomorrow....i have stopped using the front brake for a while...
              For the screeching sound: Grab a garden hose and shoot a stream of H2O into that precise 0.8 mm gap between the disc and
              the pads. That will in most cases solve it. If the front wheel does not rotate freely - show that definitely to the SVC,
              however, Am not sure what "adjustment" they will make.
              Originally posted by punarvasu View Post
              As I said earlier, disc brake cannot be adjusted. The sound and scratches and heat all are natural and need not be attended. Is the scratches more than this?
              Have you painted the center portion of the disc black? - looks good ! The discs of CBZ-X and GS look a little bland due to the lack of this detailing.
              Originally posted by venkan12 View Post
              Are the discs interchangeable with that of any other bikes.
              I don't think so, the mounting points for the discs are different?

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              • Re: Suzuki GS150R

                Originally posted by SparKot View Post
                I believe only first batch (2009) had 9Ah Lead Acid wet battery; Mine (Oct-2010) has a MF Exide Freedom 7Ah battery. Wet batteries need regular checkup/top-ups, my Access125 May-2010 make has one, and it's dying.
                Battery on my bike too was 7 ampere Exide Freedom “Maintenance Free”. But it requires regular maintenance like adding water and is not the VRLA type shown here.
                This battery is not available in the market and hence I replaced it recently with Exide Xtreme 7 ampere “Zero maintenance” battery with 36 months warranty.
                Originally posted by ashwanth.r View Post
                Have you painted the center portion of the disc black?
                That is the new disc available at SC. Both types are available and this one is a little costlier.
                Last edited by punarvasu; 10-16-2013, 02:57 AM.

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                • Re: Suzuki GS150R

                  Originally posted by SparKot View Post
                  I see you've opened side panels, did you happen to see the make of the battery which resides under the left side panel?
                  I remember reading the word "Freedom" on the battery. But which make, exide or what i can't recollect.

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                  • Re: Suzuki GS150R

                    Summary of Service --

                    Since I finished my 4th Service early October I had been complaining to Suzuki about the issues not being resolved. Issues I had are Wobbling (from day 1) and recently developed veering to the right when riding and brake binding (no free movement of front wheel). The idling speed is high (about 2.2k RPM when hot and 1.7k RPM after a cold start).

                    After repeated complaints, A Suzuki territory Service Manager came down last Wednesday to look at the bike. I took a day off and went to the Service Centre. he did a long test ride and acknowledged the problem. A very silly thing happened. As I went for lunch and came back, my bike was whisked away from Whitefield Service Centre to Domlur Service Centre without any intimation. Reason: Lack of tools in the Whitefield showroom (something as simple as a torque wrench). Raises a lot of doubts and a few eyebrows too.

                    This was on Wednesday. The bike was returned back on Friday. The wobbling is gone. The bike is stable and does not veer to any side now however the front wheel is still not having any free movement. It stops abruptly.

                    What they did in 3 days -- according to the service engineer, the took the entire front portion apart and put it back together again bolt by bolt with the correct levels of torque assigned for each bolt. They also checked the fork oil levels. Not sure why this was not noticed during manufacturing or during the umpteen visits to the SVC earlier (in spite of complaining every time).

                    With the brakes .... not sure what the problem is. Since I have been to the SVC at least on 7 to 8 occassions in 7 months of ownership for the loads of problems that cropped up on a new bike, I am not happy with this piece and the fact that I am spending a lot of my time on a faulty bike. I have asked for a replacement and waiting for an answer from Suzuki.
                    Regards,
                    Venky

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                    • Re: Suzuki GS150R

                      Hey,

                      Good to see that your woobling issue is resolved. Have you asked for the replacement of front brake?
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                      • Re: Suzuki GS150R

                        Originally posted by punarvasu View Post
                        Battery on my bike too was 7 ampere Exide FreedomVRLA type shown here
                        I wonder what they meant by "Maintenance Free". I've to check the water levels in the cells now. When I took both GS150R & Access125 to SVC in Davengere(near my hometown) they inspected Access125 battery alone.

                        Anyways, I migh ha've to purchase a "Zero Maintenance" battery in coming days as the current(stock) one is almost three years old.

                        How much did you pay for Exide Extreme 12XT7B-B?

                        Originally posted by rsk_kelkar View Post
                        I remember reading the word "Freedom" on the battery. But which make, exide or what i can't recollect.
                        Presumably it's Exide Freedom 12MF7B-B.

                        Originally posted by venkan12 View Post
                        ...

                        The wobbling is gone. The bike is stable and does not veer to any side now however the front wheel is still not having any free movement. It stops abruptly.
                        ...
                        according to the service engineer, the took the entire front portion apart and put it back together again bolt by bolt with the correct levels of torque assigned for each bolt. They also checked the fork oil levels. Not sure why this was not noticed during manufacturing or during the umpteen visits to the SVC earlier (in spite of complaining every time).
                        ...
                        Correct levels of torque for each bolt/nut addresses wobbling! That's a good piece of information. Vishnu was the only member who was stressing on this point in several old posts from the beginning. Now I see the significance.

                        As for "why this was not noticed during manufacturing", if you're familiar with s/w products we use the same expression when a serious bug is reported from production/onsite server. There is hardly any fix to human errors as there are infinite possibilities to occur. And not checking/addressing the issues in spite of regular complaints is simply unacceptable.

                        Take a half day off every time you get your GS serviced during weekdays, the relief you get watching your bike serviced in your presence saves a lot time thinking what did they do this time?
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                        • Re: Suzuki GS150R

                          Originally posted by @KinZ View Post
                          Hey,

                          Good to see that your woobling issue is resolved. Have you asked for the replacement of front brake?
                          [MENTION=47253]kin[/MENTION]Z (Sent from HUAWEI ASCEND MATE)
                          Did as the front disc to be replaced when I gave them the bike but dont think they did anything about it. It seemed to be better at the time of delivery but 4 or 5 kms later I started feeling the jerks again.

                          Jerks I beleive is due to the break binding noticed in lower rpm.

                          Sent from my GT-P3100 using xBhp Connect mobile app
                          Regards,
                          Venky

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                          • Re: Suzuki GS150R

                            Originally posted by SparKot View Post
                            How much did you pay for Exide Extreme 12XT7B-B?
                            My stock battery lasted for more than 42 months. Check the battery now. It may be good enough for few more months. It is a direct supply to the dealer and is not available in the market.
                            Printed MRP of Exide Xtreme 7 ampere is Rs. 1349/- in Maharashtra and Rs. 1321/- in other states. I bought it for Rs.1100/- or 1150/- without exchanging with the old battery. It seems to be good as they are offering 3 year warranty.
                            If the calliper mounting bracket is not retracting properly, the brake gets jammed. One reason for it is that the mechanics apply ordinary or lithium based grease which melts at low temperature becomes gummy on its pins when being complained about tight brake. Cleaning the pins, replacing the bushes and applying calliper grease (brake grease or synthetic grease or red grease as it is known) on the pins make it free. Anybody can do it himself.
                            I have posted its picture some pages back.
                            Last edited by punarvasu; 10-16-2013, 05:03 PM.

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                            • Re: Suzuki GS150R

                              Originally posted by punarvasu View Post
                              My stock battery lasted for more than 42 months. Check the battery now. It may be good enough for few more months. It is a direct supply to the dealer and is not available in the market.
                              Printed MRP of Exide Xtreme 7 ampere is Rs. 1349/- in Maharashtra and Rs. 1321/- in other states. I bought it for Rs.1100/- or 1150/- without exchanging with the old battery. It seems to be good as they are offering 3 year warranty.
                              If the calliper mounting bracket is not retracting properly, the brake gets jammed. One reason for it is that the mechanics apply ordinary or lithium based grease which melts at low temperature becomes gummy on its pins when being complained about tight brake. Cleaning the pins, replacing the bushes and applying calliper grease (brake grease or synthetic grease or red grease as it is known) on the pins make it free. Anybody can do it himself.
                              I have posted its picture some pages back.
                              Will try this and revert

                              Sent from my GT-P3100 using xBhp Connect mobile app
                              Regards,
                              Venky

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                              • Re: Suzuki GS150R

                                Originally posted by venkan12 View Post
                                Will try this and revert.
                                In your case, demand replacement of everything from master cylinder to brake pads to brake disc. Finding out the actual cause of brake jamming is not easy.
                                Last edited by punarvasu; 10-16-2013, 07:14 PM.

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