Re: Suzuki GS150R

as i said, i have zero experience in doing these stuffs.. Will you / anyone here be able to add a video of how these things are done in our GS. ? a 720p video recording mobile camera will be more than enough.

only thing i know from your list is to change the engine oil. Tyre pressure am checking from any petrol bunk. Washing done @ a nearby local bike service center.

A video explaining the basic maintenance will be helpfull to lots of ppl here including me .

Re: Suzuki GS150R

You open throttle for a fraction of a second, just enough to raise RPM(engine speed) while pressing/disengaging clutch completely. Blipping is often done when down-shifting feels stiffer. Note, I still suck at blipping.

You must be really joking, aren't you? 720p video, really?

Nobody is asking you to bungee jump now; begin with short jumps where you're standing. Start familiarising with little things like I'm doing right now. Spend time with your motorcycle apart from riding it, admire it. An 150cc engine moving 300kg weight on two wheels at over 80 km/h ... it still gets me!

That word has a serious weight attached to it Vasu. I would like to see your unused 1^st service coupon from owner's manual, take a photo & let it be authentic.
with that price-tag we can buy a reliable footpump with analog meter.

Re: Suzuki GS150R

Hi

For the first time, yesterday I fell off from my gs150r and had a few hard scratches in the front pilot light assembly cover (glass portion). This is entirely due to my fault. I couldn't hold weight at that time as gs holds much weight.
Today morning I tried to remove the scratches and I cleaned with normal toothpaste and it seems it OK. I am not saying the scratches are completely removed, but it looks like a minor scratches after the cleaning process. Any other suggestions to remove the scratches?

After the incident, the bike didn't start. Tried with kick start and button start. Nothing happens.
Then I removed the spark plug , cleaned and placed it. Then I tried with plug off the petrol pipe and plug in. But not succeeded. Then I went to local mechanic. He done the same thing. Its works fine. I think after the fall, the petrol may be blocked. Please advice me if there is any other reason.

Also I am curious about the price of the head light assembly. It seems that we need to replace the entire headlight assembly if there is any damage. Please correct me if I am wrong.

From the older post (http://www.xbhp.com/talkies/motorcyc...831-print.html) , I found the price is around 1200. Is there any changes in the newer model? I am having the 2013 model. Any of the guys recently changed the headlight assembly cover(glass part) alone?

Happy Biking and have a safer ride.

Attached the picture of the scratches.

Re: Suzuki GS150R

sometime i do this , but never knew there is a name for it.. or maybe its not blipping that i am doing.

well, i wasnt.

ok. so what are these little things you are doing. the only thing i ever did is tightening the mirror, front visor, washing.

i really want to start other maintenance by myown.. thats why i asked for a video where things can be easily understood.

another problem is am not getting much freetime 5 days of work and one day class. so its just a day and that goes for sleep, washing etc etc etc.

Re: Suzuki GS150R

I don't think it is required to change oil every 2000kms (exception being the 1st and 2nd services). Even the manual recommends an oil change once in every 4000kms and an oil filter replacement once in every 8000kms.

My 2 cents.. Replacing oil and oil filter too frequently gives a sense of self-satisfaction but is just a waste of money and precious oil resource.

Re: Suzuki GS150R

First if it is any consolation, my GS has fallen twice on the move and twice standing still. It's has scratches & dents/bends from the incidents. In all four occasions bike switched off due to fall & came back to life with a press of start button. I noted few drops of petrol/gasoline been leaked on the ground. How did that happen? It wasn't leaking when the bike was brought back to its feet(wheels) neither while it was laying on the ground.


tit-bit: I like my bike even more with scratches. I prefer people's ignorance at my unkempt bike over envious looks on Vishnu's bike.

For latest prices wait for PunarVasu to respond.

Take a look at this:
Periodic Maintenance Schedule for Suzuki Motorcycles & Scooters | Suzuki Motorcycle India Ltd.

Pick one and sleep on it. Only nontrivial task I see over there is CO analyser for which we can visit SVC.

At the moment, I'm looking forward to:
1. cleaning front disk brake pads & lube floating calipers. Replace 3y old brake fluid with new DOT4. Yet to purchase DOT4 fluid & caliper grease.
2. replace front fork oil with 20w(heavy); bought Motul 20w 350ml mineral fork oil costing around ₹ 100/-
3. replacing steering ball-racers(cone-set) with new set, preferably SKF make.
4. open, refit BS26 cv carburetor.

Above tasks are pending from the past couple of months. AC - DC conversion is pending from couple of years now.

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Based on what I read:
Did you know more than 80% of the oil drained is intact, only the additives(often long HC) gets broken. Submit the drained oil for recycling like we do batteries.

PS: It's the self-satisfaction we seek through out our lives;

Re: Suzuki GS150R

Today replaced head gasket due to mild oil leak. Bill amount was Rs.900, same as de-carbonizing. Now bike feels more powerful after 5000 RPM.
Came home removed carburetor, applied liquid gasket on the flange of carburetor,Bottom half and diaphragm cover. This should stop any vacuum leak/fuel leak(dusty carburetor). Did't test ride after that, waiting for the gasket to dry. Will say about current performance in next post.

Re: Suzuki GS150R

Originally posted by SparKot View Post

That word has a serious weight attached to it. I would like to see your unused 1^st service coupon from owner's manual, take a photo & let it be authentic.
with that price-tag we can buy a reliable footpump with analog meter.

For foot pump try one like this but I am not sure how reliable it is as I am still depending the SC or a generous local tyre repairer who always fill 35 psi for 26 or 40 for 30. His generosity made me buy a digital pressure gauge.

Originally posted by ashokmani.m View Post

For the first time, yesterday I fell off from my gs150r and had a few hard scratches in the front pilot light assembly cover (glass portion).

Glad to know that you are safe. If the abrasions are not deep, try Formula 1 SCRATCH OUT liquid rubbing compound but it will not be useful if the scratches are deep. And that part is not available as a separate piece.

Originally posted by samcan123 View Post

Replacing oil and oil filter too frequently gives a sense of self-satisfaction but is just a waste of money and precious oil resource.

That is true. I am changing oil and filter at every 3,000 kms now but most of the bikers are changing it at about 2000-2500 kms or earlier. As you know, it is difficult to convince them that it is unnecessary and, as you rightly said, wasting money and precious oil. In my experience, those trying to dislodge a deeply planted idea or belief become odd.

Originally posted by SparKot View Post

tit-bit: I like my bike even more with scratches. I prefer people's ignorance at my unkempt bike over envious looks on Vishnu's bike.

Jealousy.

Originally posted by SparKot View Post

Pick one and sleep on it. Only nontrivial task I see over there is CO analyser for which we can visit SVC.

Originally posted by SparKot View Post

1. cleaning front disk brake pads & lube floating calipers. Replace 3y old brake fluid with new DOT4. Yet to purchase DOT4 fluid & caliper grease.

DOT 4 is not a must; DOT 3 is enough. If you are planning to replace the brake fluid yourself - that is better - I may perhaps be useful. For caliper grease, contact any car service centre. It is not easily available outside.
And I am grateful if you replace that BIG V with a small v.

Originally posted by dip097 View Post

Today replaced head gasket due to mild oil leak.

Suzuki GS150R : Front Disk Check/Clean/Lube : Periodic Maintenance

My GS150R is Oct-2010 make & doesn't have Brembo disk brake setup.

Tools Required:

- Ring spanner for 12mm bolts
- Brake/Caliper Grease for Calipers
- Multipurpose plier for handling latches/pins/catches
- Sand/Emery paper to sand brake pads
- Waste cloth to wipe
- A mug of soap water for cleaning/washing & an old brush(tooth)
- Oil can, to apply coat on rusting components



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Went to Maruti-Suzuki service station for caliper grease & found out that they don't sell parts to walk-in customers. The personnel directed me to nearest 'Essar Maruti spares' near Bommanahalli(in B'Luru) signal. Over there the counter lady insisted that grease is available in a pack of ten. Bought a pack paying ₹ 130/- @ ₹13/sachet.

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Looked around for DOT-4 brake liquid from Castrol/Waxpol. Found one from Bosch priced @ ₹ 90/- for 250ml bottle.


On the way home bought a meter of level-pipe(PVC) to facilitate brake bleeding.

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I remember SVC personnel @ Value-Suzuki, Yelahanka(BLR) working on front disk pads during Dec-2011; i.e. about 2y5m back.


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Remove those two 12mm bolts, then whole brake pad assembly should come out easily.

Take a note of that latch pin; remove it using a plier, should be easy even with a screw driver.

Hmm, now what? Pin looks stiff.
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Ah, punch the pin out using a nail/thin-rod; be gentle

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Brake pads should come off with ease now. Note the position & shape of the pads.


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Get rid of that fine grit & rub sand/emery paper gently on the each break pad. Wipe/Dust it out.


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what else, a spring like metal sheet. Note the arrow on the spring for orientation then remove & clean it.


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How to remove the calipers? I removed a washer catch which was totally not necessary. Just gently nudge the plate out.

Trivial/useless step


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There will be chunks of old caliper grease inside caliper-rubber-sleeves. Gently flick the sleeves so that they fall out or use forceps if available.

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Clean the assembly; I used old tooth-brush & mild soap(detergent) water for cleaning.


Wash the disk too with soap water...
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Clean the removed parts and wipe/dry them

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Be generous while applying caliper grease on to calipers; one sachet was sufficient for me. Use a finger to pat it around the calipers.


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Put back everything in reverse order


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Mount it on to disk and tighten the bolts. Take a ride to feel the difference !!!


I took a test ride; there was no BITE!!! Then I decided to try this
- in third gear accelerate from 20 to 40/45 speed and break hard using only front disk.
- when speed comes down to around 20, repeat the above step.
I did this for about 10-15 times and bite was becoming noticeable. Returned home & touched the disk, Oops!!! DOSA-TAWA...


Note:
Disk & brake pads should stay away from Oil of any kind in the process.


Replacing Brake Fluid:
I found out drifty's DIY thread more than sufficient to follow:


Just one change - ours is 8mm drain nut and diaphragm looks little different.

Re: Suzuki GS150R : Front Disk Check/Clean/Lube : Periodic Maintenance

Did you replaced brake fluid?, if yes you should certainly do brake bleeding. After servicing the brakes you should pump the brakes several times to regain the pedal/brake lever. I did this few month before, but used normal grease for greasing caliper. Also replaced brake bleeder nipple at the same time. It was rusty.

@punarvasu I will check with suzuki and lets see what they say.

By the way there is a free service cam going on in few parts of kerala. Anyone know what is Air filter gasket?


Today did a short ride after sealing the carburetor flange, diaphragm and lower section of the carburetor and found every thing working tip top.

Re: Suzuki GS150R : Front Disk Check/Clean/Lube : Periodic Maintenance

Yes, couple hours after completing brake pad cleaning. I followed the process from Drifty as in link I posted above. However, dad(64y old) was there to help me. He was (de)pressing brake lever while I was on drain/bleed nut/nipple & refilling master cylinder.

I didn't know that we need to pump the lever several times to build up pressure; like tyre pressure. Will try it tomorrow.

What's an AirFilter Gasket?

I too have noticed oil marks around head-gasket & near spark-plug during my test ride after brake bleeding. Looks like I need to check spark-plug & carburetor soon.


Don't wake up the sleeping giant, they say; I say let's fight it.

Make you use of that camp. Couple of months back a similar camp was here(Bengaluru).

Re: Suzuki GS150R : Front Disk Check/Clean/Lube : Periodic Maintenance

SparKot,

A reverse brake bleeding, that is filling fluid through the bleeder nut and removing it from the fluid reservoir with a syringe, is easier and more effective if air is trapped in the brake hose. If you don’t feel a spongy brake lever everything is OK.

It was better to replace the caliper pin boots and the three year old pad spring which keeps the brake pads in position making a gap between the pads and disc.

To remove circlips use a straight tip circlip pliers like this.

dip097,

Do not use ordinary grease on caliper pins as it boils at lower temperature, prevents smooth movement of the caliper pins through the boots which sometimes results brake failure. More than that, ordinary grease dries up easily and that too prevents the movement of caliper pins. So, for safety, clean the pins, apply caliper grease and replace the boots.

As far as I know, that service camp is not offering anything free. But try to utilize this chance get the bike checked and you are luckier if any Suzuki engineers are present there. And this is a golden chance to ask why the SC levied 900/- rupees for replacing head gasket.
GS’s air filter is a single piece and has no gasket. And the free air filter replacement they offer is not for GS; I think.

Re: Suzuki GS150R : Front Disk Check/Clean/Lube : Periodic Maintenance

It does feel spongy, will check for the bite again tomorrow. I've nearly 175ml left in the DOT4 can if necessary.

Reverse bleeding, interesting. Is it free flow in reverse direction? coz, pressing brake lever only pushes liquid towards pistons.
How will you fill from bleeder nut/nipple end? Oh, you mean by unbolting brake assembly and lifting it up as necessary?

Ah, they're called circlips. Will check for circlip pliers.

Will replace caliper boots, pad spring & brake hose next year.

And that's why Sallu is showing two fingers instead of one. We're screwed both ways...

Re: Suzuki GS150R : Front Disk Check/Clean/Lube : Periodic Maintenance

You guessed it correctly! So smart!
By one you mean middle?

Re: Suzuki GS150R : Front Disk Check/Clean/Lube : Periodic Maintenance

Brake bleeding/clutch bleeding should be done skillfully. You should pump the liver several times, forcing the air bubbles in the system to the brake bleeding nipple. At this time you should hold the brake liver maximum depressed. The bleeder nipple should be opened at this time. You can see air bubbles in the brake fluid going out through the tube. The brake liver will loose its "bite", but you should hold it depressed. Brake liver should be released only after tightening the bleeder nipple. That is important. Other wise the air will enter the system through the bleeder nipple. You should repeat this process until you see clear brake fluid going out through the pipe/ until proper "bite" on the liver is obtained. You should also make sure that the brake fluid reservoir is topped up continuously through out the process, otherwise air will enter the fluid lines, making the process harder.

If you are feeling any spongy brake, better don't drive the bike or it is dangerous.

In the case of service camp, it is too far away from my home so i won't be able to attend it.