Re: Royal Enfield Himalayan

I got the same reply from svc, don't know what to do next

Re: Royal Enfield Himalayan

As stated in the subsequent post, try using another brand of oil?

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The Himalayan's engine will sound coarse after riding a while or whence the engine has warmed up fully. The oil whichever grade one uses, or brand one uses, has subdued effect or minimal effect whatsoever on the smoothness of the engine. The oil nor the engine isn't to be blamed, it's inherent design warrants it to be that way.

Cheers!
VJ

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[QUOTE=B7ACKTHORN;1390724]The Himalayan's engine will sound coarse after riding a while or whence the engine has warmed up fully. The oil whichever grade one uses, or brand one uses, has subdued effect or minimal effect whatsoever on the smoothness of the engine. The oil nor the engine isn't to be blamed, it's inherent design warrants it to be that way.

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Very Very Sorry to bombard this thread
But i do have a dire problem
I own a Cl350 Bs 4 which has run over to 19400 Kms.The bike had the traditional tick tick sound problem and hence went to a local RE guy who ended up changing the tappets as they were not loading properly.There would be horrible sounds when i suddenly drop throttle.
I was happy that the issue was sorted out
However today Just 800 kms after the new tappets,I am starting to getting the tic tic noise again.Goes off for sometime on its own,But is predominantly present.
Should i change oil or Should i get it back to the mechanic?
Should i wait for a couple more Hundred Kms to see if it improves?
Please Help

p.s I am using this thread in order to more views,Sorry again Mods

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@B7ACKTHORN and other experienced Himalayan owners-
which is the best engine oil for the Himalayan -should i stick to the Liquid Gun 15w50(don't know if it's mineral or semi synthetic) and change every 2000kms or shift to a fully synthetic oil and change after 4.5-5k kms-also i have huge trust on the semi synthetic Valvoline 4T 20W50 which i have been using in my 2011 model Avenger220 since 2015-it is an SN rated oil-can i use this oil in my Himalayan "Safeena" without any problem or should i stick to 15w50 only.Just came to know of Valvoline Champ Xtra BT 15W50 Synthetic blend-does anyone have a user review of this oil?
TIA.
Regards.

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ZB, you can stick to any grade oil, be is SS or FS doesn't matter, even the brands doesn't matter as long as the rating is right, 10w50 15w50 or 20w50. With higher CC engines, which do daily duty especially, it is recommended to replace the engine oil at 3k max. FS, flows better but thins out easily once the temperatures rise, thicker oils flow slowly but handle heat much better and resists thinning. The Himma does give out heat and also not effectively cooled as water cooled engines, it's an oil cooled unit, which though effective, still can do much better. Replace oil at the right time, along with oil filter, and the Hima will be a happier machine.

Cheers!
VJ

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Thanks [MENTION=39214]B7ACKTHORN[/MENTION] .
Will stick to stock 15w50 grade in SS and change every 2-2.5k.

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Today,to alleviate the buffeting and wind noise caused at helmet level from the bike's windshield,cut short the windshield of my "Safeena" by 130mm from the top-had it cut with a hand hacksaw blade and then removed the burr and corners with a polishing file.Now the helmet should be in quiet air.










Not bad eh?

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I own a Himalayan BS4 2019 model for 9 months now. During the 1st service, guys at the service centre told me that the handle bar of the bike was tight (there was some resistance when trying to turn the handle bar) and they had loosened it. But although the handle bar became more free to turn, it started to wobble, by that I mean the whole front portion including the front tyre, instrument cluster started to wobble. So I returned the bike stating the issue and they tightened it and the wobbling stopped. But after I have ridden some kilometres, the same problem occured again. This time, the handle bars and forks starts to vibrate (I may say vibrating because the front tyres are not wobbling) whenever I give a sudden throttle. Say if I'm going at 60kmph at 5th gear and if suddenly increase the speed to 80kmph or 90kmph, then the front portion starts to vibrate by making a noise and becomes stable and smooth when the bike reach 80kmph or 90kmph.

Is it because of the cone sets are damaged?
Because I haven't changed the cone set till date. Please tell a possible reason for this problem.

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In the super hot conditions prevailing here,my "Safeena" was knocking in 2nd gear with the temperature on the speedo display showing 51C while on open roads and 54C when in bumper to bumper traffic-was worried of the condition of the OE SS engine oil to withstand such abuse -so today morning changed to fully synthetic 10W50 engine oil at the A.S.C -Oil used is Total brand as per info provided by @Ijs as there was no marking on the barrel from which the oil was taken.It is the same oil as used in 650cc RE models. .The oil filter was also changed.Total cost rs1225.

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HI guys .
Here in France we could be back on tracks next week i assume, meaning more than a 110 K from home .
For the oil , i am not sure a full synthetic will do a better job on himmie .
Because this engine is an old style manufactured - meaning close to former XT, DR , XR and whatever- no very high compresson ratio, no very expensive matérial .
So the recommended brand is a good anser.

Anyway , the conditions of major rides over the world are a proof example

namaste

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Yesterday,while cleaning the bike in the morning noticed that the rear tyre of Safeena has a puncture from an embedded steel screw-opened the rear wheel myself,took the tyre to a puncture wala on my Activa,got the puncture done,fitted the rear wheel back with the help of my elder son -one thing is sure-each and every part of the Himalayan is HEAVY-in the process managed to slightly damage the threads of rear axle.........nothing major.But my toolkit got an exercise after ages-Almost 5 years after i last fixed a puncture of my Avenger220 at Chandertal base camp during my Spiti ride.

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The bike makes one re-learn most finer aspects, right from the riding style, braking style, taking a turn etc, the weight does make one change the way to the bike, and yes, the parts are hell heavy. The tires are heavy, the engine is a dead weight, everything is damn heavy, just pure metal lumps. Talk about manly stuff.

Cheers!
VJ

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HI guys .
Now in 6 days time we will be back on tracks, through the Trans Euro Trail for 3 days, and then both of us will have a training course : never too late to learn .
Mostly some " special tricks " with himmie . as htis bike is quite heavy in a way .
But a good way , a lot of metal, easy o fix = example brake pedal on a tack situation, far from shop , mechanical ..
Will send some pictures from Spain i august :
a little meeting in the mountains for 50 years of riding
carry on mates

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Hi, so after riding 2000kms I would like to share my initial experiences of my BS6 Himalyan! Like all, I was also confused before I bought this bike.
And I hope this will help someone if they are considering this machine. So, please bear with me for the long post!

In one sentence - 'I love it' except for one issue!

First, I am just an 'ordinary' rider. Just sit & ride kind of guy. Not that adrenaline person!
Coming to the bike, the engine feels refined for me. Its not a typical RE. I even noticed its slightly refined than bs4. 80kmph is the sweetest spot. 100 is sweet.
I can do all day at 100. Absolutely no vibrations at 100. Thats how atleast I felt. And I think it can hold well at 120 too. Beyond that, I dont know!
Rock solid straight line stability. Comfortable riding position. Well cushioned seats. Superb soft suspension setup!

Brakes are good enough, not spongy nor sharp. Clutch play is moderate, not tight nor easy. Gear shifting was initially little hard. But, now it became fine.
Have to accept its little smooth now! Throttle response is decent enough. The torquey engine gives a good pickup & overtaking is breezy whether in city or highways!
The instrument cluster is detailed & the fuel guage is working fine. Lowest mileage at city was 28 & highest was 39 at highways. Average is 33-35.

Handling - I am 5.5 & I can only tip toe the bike. But, I have quickly learned some techniques to get on & off and how to handle the bike.
I live in a tier 3 city & there is no b2b traffic but some rarely heavy traffic. So with a moderate traffic, I am able to easily ride the bike in city conditions & do some decent filterings. I dont felt anything weird like the frontend is heavy or the handlebar is difficult to manoeuvre in traffic.

But you do feel the weight of the bike during parking in a congested place. And if its a sloped surface, you have to be very careful.
Also, since the bike is a bit lengthy, its difficult for a short person like me when I have to turn the bike in a small space .
But, as long as you are cautious enough & dont care about what others would think of you or laugh at you, its manageable & you are good to go!

I am using it as my primary vehicle for my daily usage. I dont find any too much difficult in handling in city. But if you take this bike to some bazaar or someplace
like that, it becomes difficult since I am a short person. But I plan beforehand if I have to go to a place like that and park it accordingly.
And if I have to turn it there and if I cant, I would simply go an extra distance to find a suitable place and take a turn.
Also, I have Pulsar 150 for a lightweight ride. So, not a dealbreaker!

So, if anyone is thinking of using this as a primary vehicle & dont have an alternate one and if you often ride in a congested place like bazaar, think twice.
I know, noone buys a Himalayan & ride it in bazaar. Just saying! But I think its usable in city too. And it heats a lot in heavy traffic during a sunny day.
But I always wear pants & shoes, so it's bearable. Though, one has to be careful with the exhaust!

And the moment where I felt I made the right decision by buying this bike are the roads of my locality. I chose Himalayan also because of this.
Bad roads due to the ongoing construction work for underground sewage. This is where I felt the uniqueness of this bike. And everyone know what Himalayan is capable of! Also, I often ride to temples in the interior parts where usually the state highways have lots of patches, bumps, speedbreakers & some villages have lots of potholes. And thats where I felt happy that I chose Himalayan over Dominar or Interceptor because I can easily stand & deliver on my Himalayan.
And I am content with 120kmph on National Highways.

So whats that one issue? Its the engine cutoff! Honestly, I had zero issues in my bike except for that.
It has some minor flaws like the windblast from the windsheild hitting directly on the top of my helmet causing serious noise. But, I can adjust the windsheild or
I will buy some ear plugs. And the vibrating mirrors(No vibs at handlebar though)! Yeah, I can replace the mirrors with a good one. And the tik tik sound from the
engine, the metal sound from the catalytic converter after parking. I spoke to the SVC, they said its part of the bike, nothing to worry.
Apart from these, no weird engine noise, no oil leaks, no nuts&bolts shaking, no unsual things, nothing!

And I had already shared here in my previous post about that engine cutoff issue and how it was resolved later on by the SVC. But what worried me was, recently
the engine was shut off & didnt start. It happened during 1st day of the third lockdown. My city was in orange zone. So, I took the bike out, all of a sudden while riding theengine shut off. My good time, the SVC was just opened on that day & I am nearby. I towed the bike with the help of my friend and took it to SVC.

They checked with the diagonistic tool. Checked the cables & lines. Checked the battery. Battery is fine. They even swapped the battery & checked. No use.
Clueless, they opened the engine case on the left side and checked something. I showed my frustration with them and asked why would a new bike's engine case
has to be opened for a fault like this. They blinked! And finally, they noticed.
When we switch on the engine kill switch button, the fuel pressue regulator buzz sound will come for 2 seconds. The sound didnt come.
They checked that electrical line under the seat. Disconnected & sprayed it with electrical contact cleaner liquid & connected it back,
now that buzz sound came and the engine started.

And they said, it may be due to the dust formed in that electrical line during the lockdown period. I was like, "What, Really?" I vented my frustrations at them.
How come a new bike goes kaput for just some dust accumulating under the seat. I had cleaned my bike every 2 days during the first 2 lockdowns.
Run the engine for 5 minutes. Took the bike for a short spin in my street. Took the bike to my local vegetable store. I had maintained it well & they said its just dust.

Now I have ridden the bike almost 300kms after that. The engine cutoff happened 5 times, like once in every 50km(It starts again though). But it never happened
on the highways. I will again go to the SVC.
Now, the question comes to my mind is what is the reliability of this bike? I will give 3 out of 5. I think after all, its not a Honda or Yamaha!
Yes, the issue was there but it was resolved. Thats an important thing. But, I dont think this one issue spoiled the whole experince of my bike.
Or should stop one from considering this machine! I do hope that engine cutoff issue will be taken care of in the future. I was even fully aware of this issue in bs4
versions when I bought this bike. Unfortunately, it happened to me also. But I also understand every bike will have some or other issues!

Now, if you are considering this bike, you have to ask yourself. What kind of rider are you? What is your riding style? What's your requirements? What are you
specifically looking for? Dont get carried away by others who say, this bike dont have enough power or this bike's wheel will come off due to coneset problems!
Get advise from others, but decide yourself. Take a test ride to satisfy yourself. Get to know about the dealer and the service center.
Be patient and take all your time to research and finalize the one!!!