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    RTR vibes are higher, but it vibrates in much lower frequency.
    AS on the other hand has tingling feel occasionally.
    RTR's panels never make any hum or noise. But AS and RS is exactly the inverse.
    AS Engine feels more refined and less stressed at higher speeds, I'm happy with it. But missing the low end punch of RTR.
    A bit of low end punch would have been awesome (around 4k RPM). Power feels too linear. Top end whack is extremely satisfactory in AS.
    Braking is good enough nothing to complain, Did a full DIY brake rebuild last week. Rear feel excessively sharp.
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    Thanks for your reply... and what about the vibrations comparing with your previous RTR and how is your experience & braking performance while doing highway rides ...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Manoj Sivaraman View Post
    RTR vibes are higher, but it vibrates in much lower frequency.
    AS on the other hand has tingling feel occasionally.
    RTR's panels never make any hum or noise. But AS and RS is exactly the inverse.
    AS Engine feels more refined and less stressed at higher speeds, I'm happy with it. But missing the low end punch of RTR.
    A bit of low end punch would have been awesome (around 4k RPM). Power feels too linear. Top end whack is extremely satisfactory in AS.
    Braking is good enough nothing to complain, Did a full DIY brake rebuild last week. Rear feel excessively sharp.
    Thanks for your reply ... What will be your choice for touring in & around South India ... I bet to choose RTR because of their Tank Range (or) mileage and ABS...

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    Definitely AS200
    More comfy ergonomics
    More sure footed feel at higher speeds..
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    Thanks for your reply ... What will be your choice for touring in & around South India ... I bet to choose RTR because of their Tank Range (or) mileage and ABS...
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    Hi Folks,
    Had some time to debug the tachometer issue which I previously posted.
    The culprit was the ignition coil (primary one, single output)
    The previous owner had installed some other model coil or a counterfeit one.
    Cleaned all connectors and bung terminals coated them with WD-40.

    Did a whole wiring overhaul costed me as follows:
    HT coil - 194/-
    Zip ties - 60/-
    Insulation tape - 30/-
    Wire sleeve or jacket - 50/- (various sizes)
    WD-40 - 90/-
    Lot of patience...

    It all started from diagnosis where my handy DMM helped me.
    Where i checked Crank position sensor aka pulse coil.
    Stator coil was also checked.
    RR unit and battery health was also noted.
    Also got some leads from a Service technician regarding key areas to check.
    Tracked down the wires replaced them with same gauge automotive grade wires.
    Since it is a pre owned vehicle I did the above said checkups.
    This gave me a peace of mind as I got to know what's gone wrong and where.
    Also other updates include:
    Coolant reservoir tank replaced due to the plastic got brittle and foggy level indicator.
    Also installed Minda K95 horns with separate wiring harness.
    Both brakes got a minor overhaul (fluid flush and bleeding).
    Front pads replaced and rear one got cleaned.
    Lever feels much more responsive now.
    Cone Set is yet to be replaced will soon post a DIY guide.
    Wheel bearings and seals including. (Will do as I replace the tyres)

    I just wanna register this update here as someone in the future will find this helpful.
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    Hello Brothers!

    It's been a long time since my last post. It's been hectic and busy year. Finally got some time.

    Yes, I still have her but there are some consistent issues I am unable to resolve because I am unable to find a reliable mechanic. Issues are primarily with the engine and spares.

    Had the valves changed, cam and timing chain too but the problem with lose tappet remains. Unable to find the clutch assembly since it's not available. Changed the front tyre, stuck to FX1. Upgraded the rear monoshock to that of KTM Duke and man dies the ride feel soft and planted. I am going to change the brake lines to steel breaded one, had the battery changed to Amaron and the Armature short circuits in the middle of my ride home.

    Oh I am sorry did not mention, I have moved to a town about 180 kms from Kolkata, it's Durgapur so I get the pleasure of riding her on the highway more often now. She use to top and 153 but since the engine issue, she now keeps at 139. Cruising is at about 120 comfortably.

    After I had the valves changed, I noticed a lot of oil leaking from the cylinder and head joints, gotnit rectified but now it's the Magneto side spitting oil on high speeds. There is this clatter noise from the engine which wasn't there earlier, the idiot who worked on my bike used a hammer to take off the engine head. Yeah, I know, I felt it hard on my heart too, almost felt like dismantling his anatomy. Still looking for a mechanic though.

    I ain't letting her go, maybe get a knew one soon. I am working on tuning the monoshock, it's too damn soft and won't do well on corners. The handling is still an issue, it is as if there is a particular point which is too damn precise to figure, exactly where to have everything about the front right. The cone set, fork oil, fitting and nut torque. You miss on any one and the handling goes haywire.

    No problems with brakes though, apart from the front caliper. Had to rebore it twice till date, too much torque, one hard bump and it loses the winding. Had the seat made, ass still hurts, too much vibe mostly due to the issue with the tappet. Will have it sorted soon. Sorry for not being around though.

    I am here now, let's keep talking. I am at 40k on the ODO guys. May need a new rear tyre, advise on the same would be helpful. I have the Michelin Street, stock size at the rear, may stick to it if not Timsum. Let me know all.

    Ride Safe Brothers!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hunterkol View Post
    Hello Brothers!

    It's been a long time since my last post. It's been hectic and busy year. Finally got some time.

    Yes, I still have her but there are some consistent issues I am unable to resolve because I am unable to find a reliable mechanic. Issues are primarily with the engine and spares.

    Had the valves changed, cam and timing chain too but the problem with lose tappet remains. Unable to find the clutch assembly since it's not available. Changed the front tyre, stuck to FX1. Upgraded the rear monoshock to that of KTM Duke and man dies the ride feel soft and planted. I am going to change the brake lines to steel breaded one, had the battery changed to Amaron and the Armature short circuits in the middle of my ride home.

    Oh I am sorry did not mention, I have moved to a town about 180 kms from Kolkata, it's Durgapur so I get the pleasure of riding her on the highway more often now. She use to top and 153 but since the engine issue, she now keeps at 139. Cruising is at about 120 comfortably.

    After I had the valves changed, I noticed a lot of oil leaking from the cylinder and head joints, gotnit rectified but now it's the Magneto side spitting oil on high speeds. There is this clatter noise from the engine which wasn't there earlier, the idiot who worked on my bike used a hammer to take off the engine head. Yeah, I know, I felt it hard on my heart too, almost felt like dismantling his anatomy. Still looking for a mechanic though.

    I ain't letting her go, maybe get a knew one soon. I am working on tuning the monoshock, it's too damn soft and won't do well on corners. The handling is still an issue, it is as if there is a particular point which is too damn precise to figure, exactly where to have everything about the front right. The cone set, fork oil, fitting and nut torque. You miss on any one and the handling goes haywire.

    No problems with brakes though, apart from the front caliper. Had to rebore it twice till date, too much torque, one hard bump and it loses the winding. Had the seat made, ass still hurts, too much vibe mostly due to the issue with the tappet. Will have it sorted soon. Sorry for not being around though.

    I am here now, let's keep talking. I am at 40k on the ODO guys. May need a new rear tyre, advise on the same would be helpful. I have the Michelin Street, stock size at the rear, may stick to it if not Timsum. Let me know all.

    Ride Safe Brothers!!
    Hi,
    Could you post the rear shock absorber photos here.
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    Hi,

    So my objective was to change the backlight of my AS200 console from orange to blue. The same applies to NS/RS/AS.
    Only the console disassembly procedure varies. Was a blue backlight fan since RTR160. Also the switch cluster is of blue color, I feel it doesn't match pretty well.
    So went through some threads in xbhp to get a rough idea of what LEDs are used inside.

    Analysis of console:
    The LEDs for needle and tachometer is 3528 SMD 0.2W amber and Red colored.
    Since needle is red I don't wanna mess up the colors.
    The orange for the tachometer reading needs to be swapped with cool white.

    The LEDs for the LCD is 0603 amber ones 0.1w each.
    I needed it to be pretty bright so I went ahead using a slightly larger die chip.

    Next large die was 1206 SMD LEDs.

    Things required.

    Desired color of LEDs
    3528 and 1206 LEDs least 20 numbers each. SMD soldering can get messy at times. So some spare LEDs can be handy.

    Micro soldering station. Soldron brand is recommended due to better temperature accuracy.
    Can also use cheap SAMCON brand does the job well.

    I'm not much concentrating on the dismantling part as this is already covered in the old thread from Xbhp.

    Good soldering experience. This needs patience and lots of experience in terms of desoldering and soldering back.

    Note: I'm not using desoldering gun. I'm using desoldering wick to desolder the LCD from the PCB.

    Use 35w soldering for desoldering using the desol wick.
    Note: dipping the desol wick in liquid flux will help the capillary action of the wick more effective.

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    Desolder the amber LEDs from the PCB. Mark the polarity of the LEDs.

    I'm using cool white for the tachometer reading 3 LEDs.
    And blue for the LCD display 8 LEDs.

    If one needs he can also swapout the telltale lights LEDs and rev limiter LED color.
    I personally like Red is the right choice for revlimiter. So went ahead with it.

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    A closer look on the PCB.

    Now onto the voltmeter or battery voltage monitor system (Fancy techy name).

    I bought these cheap 3 digit voltmeter modules off of AliExpress long back. One can use the blank space in console where the Bajaj blue logo is present (Bajaj Bluetooth Logo).

    These LED voltmeters are available in various colors one can match the respective LCD backlight color he goes to.

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    The white plastic frame can be cut to the desired size to accomodate the voltmeter.

    There has been significant changes in console of 2012 to 2013 NS and post 2013 NS since more tell tale lights have been added. the number of pins are higher in newer models.

    Resolder everything back including the LCD and check the functionality.

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    Reinstall the casing back. Note: check the gasket (foam tape) used in the console cover. This is done to prevent moisture entry. Also one can add in a packet of silicon desiccant inside.

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    Will add the voltmeter pinouts soon below. There are two methods to get it wired up. Sense pin can directly be linked to battery or the wiring can be contained within console assy.

    Please post your views and comments below.

    Thanks and regards..
    Manoj Sivaraman..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Manoj Sivaraman View Post
    Hi,

    So my objective was to change the backlight of my AS200 console from orange to blue. The same applies to NS/RS/AS.
    Only the console disassembly procedure varies. Was a blue backlight fan since RTR160. Also the switch cluster is of blue color, I feel it doesn't match pretty well.
    So went through some threads in xbhp to get a rough idea of what LEDs are used inside.

    Analysis of console:
    The LEDs for needle and tachometer is 3528 SMD 0.2W amber and Red colored.
    Since needle is red I don't wanna mess up the colors.
    The orange for the tachometer reading needs to be swapped with cool white.

    The LEDs for the LCD is 0603 amber ones 0.1w each.
    I needed it to be pretty bright so I went ahead using a slightly larger die chip.

    Next large die was 1206 SMD LEDs.

    Things required.

    Desired color of LEDs
    3528 and 1206 LEDs least 20 numbers each. SMD soldering can get messy at times. So some spare LEDs can be handy.

    Micro soldering station. Soldron brand is recommended due to better temperature accuracy.
    Can also use cheap SAMCON brand does the job well.

    I'm not much concentrating on the dismantling part as this is already covered in the old thread from Xbhp.

    Good soldering experience. This needs patience and lots of experience in terms of desoldering and soldering back.

    Note: I'm not using desoldering gun. I'm using desoldering wick to desolder the LCD from the PCB.

    Use 35w soldering for desoldering using the desol wick.
    Note: dipping the desol wick in liquid flux will help the capillary action of the wick more effective.

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    Desolder the amber LEDs from the PCB. Mark the polarity of the LEDs.

    I'm using cool white for the tachometer reading 3 LEDs.
    And blue for the LCD display 8 LEDs.

    If one needs he can also swapout the telltale lights LEDs and rev limiter LED color.
    I personally like Red is the right choice for revlimiter. So went ahead with it.

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    A closer look on the PCB.

    Now onto the voltmeter or battery voltage monitor system (Fancy techy name).

    I bought these cheap 3 digit voltmeter modules off of AliExpress long back. One can use the blank space in console where the Bajaj blue logo is present (Bajaj Bluetooth Logo).

    These LED voltmeters are available in various colors one can match the respective LCD backlight color he goes to.

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    The white plastic frame can be cut to the desired size to accomodate the voltmeter.

    There has been significant changes in console of 2012 to 2013 NS and post 2013 NS since more tell tale lights have been added. the number of pins are higher in newer models.

    Resolder everything back including the LCD and check the functionality.

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    Reinstall the casing back. Note: check the gasket (foam tape) used in the console cover. This is done to prevent moisture entry. Also one can add in a packet of silicon desiccant inside.

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    Will add the voltmeter pinouts soon below. There are two methods to get it wired up. Sense pin can directly be linked to battery or the wiring can be contained within console assy.

    Please post your views and comments below.

    Thanks and regards..
    Manoj Sivaraman..
    Glad to see you're active here as well apart from Advento group.
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    Quote Originally Posted by zequirkynetizen View Post
    Glad to see you're active here as well apart from Advento group.
    Hi,
    Forums are rich in contents. It's always recommend to discuss issues and solutions. Modifications here.
    Things stay here for a long time. Other users get benefited.
    Also it's quarantine time. Having tons of free time now..
    #StaySafe...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hunterkol View Post
    Hello Brothers!

    It's been a long time since my last post. It's been hectic and busy year. Finally got some time.

    Yes, I still have her but there are some consistent issues I am unable to resolve because I am unable to find a reliable mechanic. Issues are primarily with the engine and spares.

    Had the valves changed, cam and timing chain too but the problem with lose tappet remains. Unable to find the clutch assembly since it's not available. Changed the front tyre, stuck to FX1. Upgraded the rear monoshock to that of KTM Duke and man dies the ride feel soft and planted. I am going to change the brake lines to steel breaded one, had the battery changed to Amaron and the Armature short circuits in the middle of my ride home.

    Oh I am sorry did not mention, I have moved to a town about 180 kms from Kolkata, it's Durgapur so I get the pleasure of riding her on the highway more often now. She use to top and 153 but since the engine issue, she now keeps at 139. Cruising is at about 120 comfortably.

    After I had the valves changed, I noticed a lot of oil leaking from the cylinder and head joints, gotnit rectified but now it's the Magneto side spitting oil on high speeds. There is this clatter noise from the engine which wasn't there earlier, the idiot who worked on my bike used a hammer to take off the engine head. Yeah, I know, I felt it hard on my heart too, almost felt like dismantling his anatomy. Still looking for a mechanic though.

    I ain't letting her go, maybe get a knew one soon. I am working on tuning the monoshock, it's too damn soft and won't do well on corners. The handling is still an issue, it is as if there is a particular point which is too damn precise to figure, exactly where to have everything about the front right. The cone set, fork oil, fitting and nut torque. You miss on any one and the handling goes haywire.

    No problems with brakes though, apart from the front caliper. Had to rebore it twice till date, too much torque, one hard bump and it loses the winding. Had the seat made, ass still hurts, too much vibe mostly due to the issue with the tappet. Will have it sorted soon. Sorry for not being around though.

    I am here now, let's keep talking. I am at 40k on the ODO guys. May need a new rear tyre, advise on the same would be helpful. I have the Michelin Street, stock size at the rear, may stick to it if not Timsum. Let me know all.

    Ride Safe Brothers!!
    I see you haven't given up on your "BAE" in spite of the niggles...neither have I although haven't had engine related issues what so ever apart from very minor leakage from head. Currently on 38k kms odo. Recently changed tires after having a near fatal slip due to bald rear and hardened front tires. So wanted to go with Michelin but being a remote location only option was to go with MRF. Got 140 section for rear and stock size for front. For rear got Masseter and zapper for front. Tyre's are really good have a rounded profile so have enough cornering rubber. Tyre is sticky enough when warm that I really enjoy the ghat sections.Name:  DSC_0067_2 -resize.jpg
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