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Thread: Suzuki Gixxer SF : Ownership thread

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    Default Re: Suzuki Gixxer SF : Ownership thread

    Quote Originally Posted by hemantk View Post
    Hi Friends,

    Recently, I have discovered some oil spots outside of my gixxer sf silencer, seems to be one time instant but still worrisome:-

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    There is NO white smoke from the silencer nor any oil deposits anywhere in the tubes:-

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    The oil level is also maintained (image is upside down)
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    I am not able to figure out where the oil drops have came from? Can anyone guide me?

    Secondly, from a day when I was trapped in bumper to bumper traffic on a curvious highway for about 30-40 mins, I am getting a faint burnt odour...

    Is this because of our great magneto-side seal have started to leak/oil fume again?

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    Other details:-

    1) 2016 built model
    2) 10W40 oil shell semi
    3) 2500 kms on current oil. will change around 4k-5k as per the mfger manual.
    4) daily run 26*2= 50~60 kms
    5) 53-57 kmpl average

    Your guidance will help me a lot!!
    I think the engine oil is leaking due to the damage of piston rings from there it goes to the combustion chamber and then it comes to exhaust through exhaust valve.

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    Default Re: Suzuki Gixxer SF : Ownership thread

    Quote Originally Posted by adithya485779 View Post
    I can be wrong.. please take it to the service centre or other local mechanics or else wait for some experts reply from xbhp.
    There is no white smoke or oil is reducing in the engine...

    Though your thought process is along the line.

    Can anyone on the forum have faced similiar issue?

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    Default Re: Suzuki Gixxer SF : Ownership thread

    Quote Originally Posted by hemantk View Post
    There is no white smoke or oil is reducing in the engine...

    Though your thought process is along the line.

    Can anyone on the forum have faced similiar issue?

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    The problem is we dont know where its coming from. Oil doesnt simply leak from the combustion chamber and make its way all the way to the exhaust tip like that. It will either burn off or stay in the Catalytic converter.

    Your best option is to take it to a service center, and get the exhaust header disconnected and check for leaks. If there is a leak then you have a Seal failure, in which case the SVC will advice you on what to do next.
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    Default Re: Suzuki Gixxer SF : Ownership thread

    Quote Originally Posted by hemantk View Post
    Hi Friends,

    Recently, I have discovered some oil spots outside of my gixxer sf silencer, seems to be one time instant but still worrisome:-

    There is NO white smoke from the silencer nor any oil deposits anywhere in the tubes:-

    The oil level is also maintained (image is upside down)

    I am not able to figure out where the oil drops have came from? Can anyone guide me?
    Clean the exhaust area and then ride the motorcycle hard for a bit, and inspect the exhaust area once again by running a finger around the inside of the tip.

    If its clean then all is well, to make sure inspect the SP tip as well for wet oil stains, if both are well then oil burning is completely out of the issue.

    What is not well is your oil drain interval, extended drain intervals and hoopla oils seem to be the Indian middle class mentality seeping into motorcycling but if you do your own research from reliable sources you'd reach the conclusion that its best to stick to the thumb rule of 2k km's per 1 liter oil.

    That was just a suggestion as for oil levels, thumb rule is if it ain't burning oil and if the oil level ain't dropping much then there isn't really anything to worry about.

    Secondly, from a day when I was trapped in bumper to bumper traffic on a curvious highway for about 30-40 mins, I am getting a faint burnt odour...

    Is this because of our great magneto-side seal have started to leak/oil fume again?
    The choice is up to you, if you're in the mood you can take the cover apart to replace seal/boot if its available separately, else you'd have to replace the stator or simply makeshift with the help of sealant to take care of the leak.

    Though personally since its just a vapor leak I wouldn't give it urgent priority, In my P220 I've had vapor leaks for over 30k km's which I've not bothered to fix as I'm waiting for something major to overhaul so I'd be able to replace the seal/gasket along with it, doesn't make sense for me to simply open up things every now and then for insignificant issues.

    @Others, take a chill-pill mates, a minor oil stain here or there doesn't warrant a rebuild.

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    The most common cause of motorbikes leaking oil from the exhaust is that there is a greater proportion of this fluid recommended for gasoline blending. This mismatch causes excess oil to be removed from the exhaust. Generally, the percentage thereof should be 2% but it is best that you consult the manual of your bike to check.
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    In the event that there is no problem with the mixture ratio, the cause of the the bike's oil leakage can be found in the carburetor float. This is a tilting member which floats on gasoline, which is also called float. When the mixture is at a certain level, the float closes a valve which blocks the supply of gasoline. If the float fails, it can cause the Oil output from the exhaust of the motorcycle.

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    A crankshaft main bearing seal that is broken can also cause that the bike's oil leakage. Deterioration of this element causes the oil to pass to the crankshaft and eventually be expelled from the exhaust end.
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    Changing the oil filter could also end up with a problem where the bike will leak oil from the exhaust. 10,000 or 20,000, proceed to perform this maintenance task that should not be overlooked. In general, every two oil changes motorbike, You must replace the filter.
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    Another cause that makes the bike leak is worn piston rings. In the event that the wear is very strong, these rings may become split. So if you meet this symptom, do not discount this possibility.

    And this words are not from me I simply copy pasted it from a post

    Here is the link :- https://www.google.com/amp/s/motor.o...8.html%3famp=1
    Dude, this is with reference to 2T motorcycles.

    Make sure you spend some time learning about how a motorcycle works before copy-pasting stuff.

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    Default Re: Suzuki Gixxer SF : Ownership thread

    Quote Originally Posted by adithya485779 View Post
    It's true that I copy pasted the post I was just trying to help.. But, you don't know why I did that am poor at explaining things.. But, that doesn't means that I don't know anything about motorcycles.. I very well know how maintain and properly work on a motorcycle without anyones help & Keep your knowledge with yourself professor.
    Chill dude, if you know enough to keep your motorcycle running fine then all is good.

    Unfortunately a good number of people here do not know that, hence it would do us all good to double check what we share with others, because no matter how good our intentions are it wouldn't serve anyone any good if something bad actually comes out of it, especially with eager SVC's and FNG's simply waiting to try their luck on hapless motorcyclists.

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    Default Re: Suzuki Gixxer SF : Ownership thread

    Quote Originally Posted by ashwinprakas View Post
    Clean the exhaust area and then ride the motorcycle hard for a bit, and inspect the exhaust area once again by running a finger around the inside of the tip.

    If its clean then all is well, to make sure inspect the SP tip as well for wet oil stains, if both are well then oil burning is completely out of the issue.

    What is not well is your oil drain interval, extended drain intervals and hoopla oils seem to be the Indian middle class mentality seeping into motorcycling but if you do your own research from reliable sources you'd reach the conclusion that its best to stick to the thumb rule of 2k km's per 1 liter oil.

    That was just a suggestion as for oil levels, thumb rule is if it ain't burning oil and if the oil level ain't dropping much then there isn't really anything to worry about.
    Thanks for your reply!!

    I have done exactly the same.. whipped the silencer off.. (taken pictures prior) and simply am driving at around 70 kmph to check for any issue. I do not drive gixxer more than 75 kmph during weekdays as there is seldom a road at my time to be free. And also to replicate the conditions under which the stains came to existence. Still I am not able to replicate the issue.

    Spark plug is completely dry!! The walls of silencer has deposit of carbon only, not a moist oily paste.

    Regarding the oil change interval, manufacturer of oil typically suggests the amount of kms you can drive, which is around 4k for semi-synthetic. It may seems a waste of oil as well as money to change the oil prior to manufacturer recommended period. Though first time services for break-in should be 2k spaced for oil changes for removing the metal debris.

    I am simply removing the oil from the magneto-cover during washing today, to check whether the oil oozes out ..

    BTW additional information, I had added "eftek solution" into the fuel for last-to-last petrol fill, 2 pouches for 7.5 liter of petrol for cleaning of valves and carburettor. (You can feel the difference)

    Thanks in advance!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by hemantk View Post
    Regarding the oil change interval, manufacturer of oil typically suggests the amount of kms you can drive, which is around 4k for semi-synthetic. It may seems a waste of oil as well as money to change the oil prior to manufacturer recommended period. Though first time services for break-in should be 2k spaced for oil changes for removing the metal debris.
    Lets hope your better judgement does you good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jkoyande28 View Post
    I was facing break lever issue in my Gixxer SF FI ABS variant. I went to the SVC but they ignored the issue. Then I raised the complaint against them on suzuki helpline and SVC called me back and changed break fluid and cleaned break pads as well, But I am still facing issue. After going to SVC again I spoke with there adviser he told me this is because of ABS. When you pull break lever continuously or while going through bumpy road break lever gets stuck and only after releasing it fully I can pull it. I tested another ABS variant bike from the SVC and faced the same issue. Does anybody else from here have faced this issue?
    Brake levers as such, especially front shouldn't be grabby and get stuck when pressing the brake lever. They should engage and disengage equally smoothly, irrespective of ABS or non-ABS. If you find your brake levers grabby, it's time to check your master cylinder piston. Faulty master cylinder pistons would mean, grabbing brake lever. This can also be caused if your fluid level is low. Secondly, ABS when detects a wheel lock, pulses the brake lever which is perfectly normal.

    The user in no way has to bring a brake lever back to its position after usage of the brake. Get it checked, if you're under warranty opt for a replacement or overhaul of the master cylinder.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tremonade View Post
    What's the difference between Motion 7199 and 300V? (both 10W40)

    I'm planning to change the oil from Shell AX7. I live in Bangalore and I ride for 15 KM's in a day. So to which should I switch to? Also, should I use any engine flush?
    This video should help you. 300V is a non-certified oil so forget about it. If you use it and if Suzuki finds out, your warranty is gone. Besides Gixxer's engine doesnt benefit from 300V, not even 1%. It is a strictly racing oil. Also theres no need to use engine flush unless you were using it since your first oil change.

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    Default Re: Suzuki Gixxer SF : Ownership thread

    Quote Originally Posted by MotoBlizzard View Post
    This video should help you. 300V is a non-certified oil so forget about it. If you use it and if Suzuki finds out, your warranty is gone. Besides Gixxer's engine doesnt benefit from 300V, not even 1%. It is a strictly racing oil. Also theres no need to use engine flush unless you were using it since your first oil change.

    Hi,

    Now this is a personal opinion, but I have tried the ECSTAR 9000, my gixxer sf did not like it a bit, I got a feel of lag while driving.

    Prior to that I used the semi synthetic from Suzuki, was pretty good.

    Now I use semi syn Shell, 10w40, the ride is pretty good.

    Regards,
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