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    Quote Originally Posted by koushik_vaskar View Post
    Thanks a lot for the response.

    1) well i usually don't do that. Max offroading for me would be the roads to spiti/ ladakh which my NS tackled fairly well or some village roads . So i assume i am somewhat safe from the chasis crack

    2) Is there any solution to the battery drainage ?

    3) I usually take proper care of my two wheels so hoping that they won't let me down in the middle of some deserted road.
    Just go for it, it has very comfortable suspensions for our indian roads.
    Chassis breaking was problem with BS3, i have not heard BS4 anytime, they have made the welding/joints heavier in BS4, FYI BS4 weighs around 9 kgs more than BS3.

    For battery drainage i have not faced any issues like this, riding a BS4 since more than 5000 kms. People have added a headlight switch but it might affect the warranty for sure.

    You may have to change the seat cushioning for more comfort, it was hitting my tail bone directly, after mod it is very comfortable for long distances.

    My perspective buying BMW is no value for money at all, even if its a good motorbike.
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    Quote Originally Posted by I_Ride View Post
    Just go for it, it has very comfortable suspensions for our indian roads.
    Chassis breaking was problem with BS3, i have not heard BS4 anytime, they have made the welding/joints heavier in BS4, FYI BS4 weighs around 9 kgs more than BS3.

    For battery drainage i have not faced any issues like this, riding a BS4 since more than 5000 kms. People have added a headlight switch but it might affect the warranty for sure.

    You may have to change the seat cushioning for more comfort, it was hitting my tail bone directly, after mod it is very comfortable for long distances.

    My perspective buying BMW is no value for money at all, even if its a good motorbike.
    hi guys
    himmie is over 12kkm a,d i had made some serious offroad in rocks sometimes
    Noraly had passed now 30 and no issue at all, and she is one on the most serious riders i had never seen ( can find her blog on internet at itchyboots)
    For the battery if you ride often , no problem.
    the 310 is only a joke, to make some big rides, many modifications to make ( tested in EU an US as well)
    this himmie is for the best trailbike since XT 500
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    Quote Originally Posted by I_Ride View Post
    Just go for it, it has very comfortable suspensions for our indian roads.
    Chassis breaking was problem with BS3, i have not heard BS4 anytime, they have made the welding/joints heavier in BS4, FYI BS4 weighs around 9 kgs more than BS3.
    For battery drainage i have not faced any issues like this, riding a BS4 since more than 5000 kms. People have added a headlight switch but it might affect the warranty for sure.
    You may have to change the seat cushioning for more comfort, it was hitting my tail bone directly, after mod it is very comfortable for long distances.
    My perspective buying BMW is no value for money at all, even if its a good motorbike.


    Thanks a lot for the confidence. this really helped.

    Nope, will keep the bike stock during the Warranty period. Chasis breakage and bike stalling/Breakdown in middle of nowhere without any major reason were few of the biggest concerns for me.i am ok with servicing the bike more frequently to keep things good and avoid any such circumstances.

    also going through few DIY of all the possible problems. Hoping for the best
    And yes, the seat cushioning is a mandate for me. have some Spine congestion due to issue in discs C5,C6 and C7.







    Quote Originally Posted by varunaFRANCE View Post
    hi guys
    himmie is over 12kkm a,d i had made some serious offroad in rocks sometimes
    Noraly had passed now 30 and no issue at all, and she is one on the most serious riders i had never seen ( can find her blog on internet at itchyboots)
    For the battery if you ride often , no problem.
    the 310 is only a joke, to make some big rides, many modifications to make ( tested in EU an US as well)
    this himmie is for the best trailbike since XT 500
    Yeah, following Noraly from a long time and was quite amazed to see not a single issue with the Bike.Just a puncture in KL. and Clutch plates issue after a long time.

    Would love to know more about your himmie have you faced any mentioned issues where you have to halt your ride in middle unless you fix the problem all this while?

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    Quote Originally Posted by B7ACKTHORN View Post
    Kunwar thank you for the update. Did you replace your right hand switch to the BS3 ones? Were they a direct fit? How long after, did you observe this mild HB glowing on your console? It seems you got this switch replaced a long while back and now you see this lighting coming up, which wasn't there earlier even though you changed the switch, hope I am getting it right. Regarding the stiff suspension, the Himalayan has extremely soft sprung rear, and yes it's set at 3 turns. If you have a thud sound going over a pothole and the suspension becomes hard when going over a pothole, it's time to replace your rear shocker. Regarding the battery, yes they have a warranty period too, and it will be replaced if it's found faulty. Too low battery would mean, you'll have all the lights working fine, but when you press the starter button, noting will work, it will make a "krrr" sound and the console will just turn off and tun on again. If your battery is charged enough and still you have trouble starting, i.e. check your starter relay and fuse. A fully charged up battery will start the bike in less than two cranks. I'd like to know more about the BS3 switch mod, the cost involved and the finer aspects of it. Do keep your observations posted. Cheers! VJ
    Well I had to push start the bike single handed which also means if I am stranded somewhere again I probably wouldn't be needing much help to push start the Himalayan

    After push starting went to service center where they reasonably quickly put my bike on ramp and checked to confirm its the battery. Instead of asking me to go to the battery service center as mentioned in the booklet they took the battery and gave me a service battery. Had gone there since the rear shockers had arrived and after changing to new ones it did feel softer ( by pushing it downwards by hand ) . Once I confirmed that it does feel softer, the store in charge let the mechanic complete the installation.

    Meanwhile i showed them that the plastic freznel lens in front of the LED in HL was broken and there is no way I could have done that. Store in charge checked a few more Himalayan there and agreed to change even that under warranty, But alas it was not in stock.

    So today got a call that the HL was in stock, though it was drizzling, I still went to the service center as was just lazing around. After changing to the new HL the weak flashing of the high beam on the console went away, so seems it would have been some wiring issue at the HL end that was leading to it. On the battery part they got the same battery back from Amaron, gut when checked it was dead, so the in charge assured me to get it checked again and possibly get a proper replacement this time. For now the service battery is doing fine.

    The BS3 switch though of Himalayan, its seems RE has changed the position of the relay in the wiring in the BS4 as the BS3 switch has only one input power wire for parking bulb and low beam, so when I switch to high beam the supply to the low beam and parking bulb is switched off . If this isn't clear I am draw up the wiring to show what I mean. In my classic there were 2 power wires going to the right switch, one for parking and one for low beam. So I can conclude that definitely RE has changed the HL relay position in the wiring of RE BS3 vs BS4. The cost of the switch was 466/- and part # is 587314/A. If need info on wiring let me know will take pics to explain. It took a while for me to get it done, but if one know which wire to tap then it will be easy.
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    I was looking to get a Himalayan for a while now, primarily because:

    1. I have a daily run of ~60 kms of which ~40 is on highways with minimal braking or stopping.
    2. Was riding a duke 200 which was taking a toll on my back due to the office bag and the hard seat.
    3. Needed something calm and composed after the duke
    4. I rarely went above 100kmph on Duke and generally enjoy riding at a slower pace

    Considering everything, the Himalayan fit the bill perfectly, so I reached out to one of RE showrooms in my city and that's where the story begins.

    Early April, I contacted the showroom guys for a test run on the ABS Himalayan, they obliged. While I loved the ride quality (coming from the duke). I had my reservations regarding the build quality. The test ride bike had a bent handlebar, the gear indicator didn't work and the side stand also had some issues. I noticed all this in ~5 minutes of test ride with my wife as pillion. Also, to add insult to the injury, i previously owned a 2017 TB500 which had me running to the service center every 15 days, so the test ride Himalayan wasn't really helping RE's case at all. I was a bit disappointed and went on to book a Jawa instead (whole different world, whole different story).

    Anyway, the RE guys chased me for a while and gave up once I stopped showing interest in the bike. However, 2 days ago I got to know from a friend that the showroom is giving Panniers for for free to anyone buying the Himalayan. This seemed like a sweet deal as the Pannier set is ~30K, so i reached out again.

    To my disappointment, no such offer exists currently, but the showroom guy told me that they have a 2018 (Non-ABS) BSIV model Himalayan available with deep discounts which might be worth my time. So I decided to at least hear the offer being made about the bike. I set up a call with the showroom owner and after a 30 minute call we came to an agreement. I was to get a discount of 55k on the bike (as compared to the on-road price of the BSIV Non-ABS model) and I can take the delivery right away.

    I visited the showroom and did a thorough PDI of the bike (thanks xBHP ). Few things came to light eventually:
    1. Repainted tank (very subtle and might not be identifiable if not for a slightly misplaced sticker). I had a friend with granite colored Himalayan, so I know what the stickering should look like on the tank. I prodded the showroom mechanic and he eventually agreed with me about the re-paint of tank. (HUGE red flag)
    2. Slightly bent Handle bar (HUGE red flag)
    3. ODO had 23.5KM already - although I am the first owner, and the reason for the KMs on the ODO is that the bike was originally ridden in from the depot to the showroom to be delivered urgently, but obviously that deal didn't go through. I know that the depot is about ~20 km from the showroom, so this can very well be the truth (Mild red flag)
    4. Non-working battery (not a deal breaker at all)
    5. Slight damage on the seat (probably transit damage) (not a deal breaker at all)
    6. Slight damage on bar end weights (not a deal breaker at all)


    Obviously I was pretty worked up with all the nuances that were being sidestepped by the showroom. So I called up the owner again, detailing all the issues he was very patient during the whole conversation. He then offered to replace all the hardware free of cost and for all the parts which were not present in the showroom (e.g., the fuel tank) will be replaced at the service center. This calmed me down considerably and I decided to go for the bike as the discount was quite lucrative.

    So, after deciding on a final price of 1.9k (including registration, insurance etc.), I bought the bike with a Pannier set, adventure handlebars, bar-end weights, drum cylinder guard (all inclusive in the 1.9k). I am yet to find another problem with the bike and it has been running smoothly. Much to my surprise, the gear shifts were much smoother than my duke 200 and the ride quality is of course very very plush.

    What do you guys think, did I make the right choice or should I have not taken up the offer and gotten the ABS version instead?

    P.S. Oh and by the way, my Jawa booking is still valid, anyone interested in getting a Jawa in the next 4-5 months ? I am just kidding, Jawa bookings are non-transferable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ryumukherjee View Post
    I was looking to get a Himalayan for a while now, primarily because:

    1. I have a daily run of ~60 kms of which ~40 is on highways with minimal braking or stopping.
    2. Was riding a duke 200 which was taking a toll on my back due to the office bag and the hard seat.
    3. Needed something calm and composed after the duke
    4. I rarely went above 100kmph on Duke and generally enjoy riding at a slower pace

    Considering everything, the Himalayan fit the bill perfectly, so I reached out to one of RE showrooms in my city and that's where the story begins.

    Early April, I contacted the showroom guys for a test run on the ABS Himalayan, they obliged. While I loved the ride quality (coming from the duke). I had my reservations regarding the build quality. The test ride bike had a bent handlebar, the gear indicator didn't work and the side stand also had some issues. I noticed all this in ~5 minutes of test ride with my wife as pillion. Also, to add insult to the injury, i previously owned a 2017 TB500 which had me running to the service center every 15 days, so the test ride Himalayan wasn't really helping RE's case at all. I was a bit disappointed and went on to book a Jawa instead (whole different world, whole different story).

    Anyway, the RE guys chased me for a while and gave up once I stopped showing interest in the bike. However, 2 days ago I got to know from a friend that the showroom is giving Panniers for for free to anyone buying the Himalayan. This seemed like a sweet deal as the Pannier set is ~30K, so i reached out again.

    To my disappointment, no such offer exists currently, but the showroom guy told me that they have a 2018 (Non-ABS) BSIV model Himalayan available with deep discounts which might be worth my time. So I decided to at least hear the offer being made about the bike. I set up a call with the showroom owner and after a 30 minute call we came to an agreement. I was to get a discount of 55k on the bike (as compared to the on-road price of the BSIV Non-ABS model) and I can take the delivery right away.

    I visited the showroom and did a thorough PDI of the bike (thanks xBHP ). Few things came to light eventually:
    1. Repainted tank (very subtle and might not be identifiable if not for a slightly misplaced sticker). I had a friend with granite colored Himalayan, so I know what the stickering should look like on the tank. I prodded the showroom mechanic and he eventually agreed with me about the re-paint of tank. (HUGE red flag)
    2. Slightly bent Handle bar (HUGE red flag)
    3. ODO had 23.5KM already - although I am the first owner, and the reason for the KMs on the ODO is that the bike was originally ridden in from the depot to the showroom to be delivered urgently, but obviously that deal didn't go through. I know that the depot is about ~20 km from the showroom, so this can very well be the truth (Mild red flag)
    4. Non-working battery (not a deal breaker at all)
    5. Slight damage on the seat (probably transit damage) (not a deal breaker at all)
    6. Slight damage on bar end weights (not a deal breaker at all)


    Obviously I was pretty worked up with all the nuances that were being sidestepped by the showroom. So I called up the owner again, detailing all the issues he was very patient during the whole conversation. He then offered to replace all the hardware free of cost and for all the parts which were not present in the showroom (e.g., the fuel tank) will be replaced at the service center. This calmed me down considerably and I decided to go for the bike as the discount was quite lucrative.

    So, after deciding on a final price of 1.9k (including registration, insurance etc.), I bought the bike with a Pannier set, adventure handlebars, bar-end weights, drum cylinder guard (all inclusive in the 1.9k). I am yet to find another problem with the bike and it has been running smoothly. Much to my surprise, the gear shifts were much smoother than my duke 200 and the ride quality is of course very very plush.

    What do you guys think, did I make the right choice or should I have not taken up the offer and gotten the ABS version instead?

    P.S. Oh and by the way, my Jawa booking is still valid, anyone interested in getting a Jawa in the next 4-5 months ? I am just kidding, Jawa bookings are non-transferable.
    Money wise it's a great deal but if u compare with a safety tag , u lost a much much more important feature, ABS. No matter how much experience we have in riding we can't act as fast as the device works during panic situation.
    Please ride with care in monsoons.
    Engine+ chassis reliability still under question mark.
    I don't know why you went for a off road bike when u had a highway requiments.(u must have tried test ride of jawa).
    I agree it comes with most comfortable pillion seat as well as rider's.
    Please confirm engine and chassis's no are matching (hopefully it ll be fine).
    Check run out of both the spoke wheels( if service centre is very near to showroom some mechanics don't hesitate to swap the parts).
    Rusting on engine parts.
    Don't feel bad for pointing out some supposed negatives.
    Mainly ask them for extended warranty and bumper to bumper insurance.
    I Hope you are the first customer in RC.
    Worries apart, if u love the off roading or covered by bad highways patches. U choosen the best bike.
    Happy riding. Ride safe.
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    Post Re: Royal Enfield Himalayan

    Quote Originally Posted by ryumukherjee View Post

    Anyway, the RE guys chased me for a while and gave up once I stopped showing interest in the bike. However, 2 days ago I got to know from a friend that the showroom is giving Panniers for for free to anyone buying the Himalayan. This seemed like a sweet deal as the Pannier set is ~30K, so i reached out again.

    I visited the showroom and did a thorough PDI of the bike (thanks xBHP ). Few things came to light eventually:
    1. Repainted tank (very subtle and might not be identifiable if not for a slightly misplaced sticker). I had a friend with granite colored Himalayan, so I know what the stickering should look like on the tank. I prodded the showroom mechanic and he eventually agreed with me about the re-paint of tank. (HUGE red flag)
    2. Slightly bent Handle bar (HUGE red flag)
    3. ODO had 23.5KM already - although I am the first owner, and the reason for the KMs on the ODO is that the bike was originally ridden in from the depot to the showroom to be delivered urgently, but obviously that deal didn't go through. I know that the depot is about ~20 km from the showroom, so this can very well be the truth (Mild red flag)
    4. Non-working battery (not a deal breaker at all)
    5. Slight damage on the seat (probably transit damage) (not a deal breaker at all)
    6. Slight damage on bar end weights (not a deal breaker at all)


    Obviously I was pretty worked up with all the nuances that were being sidestepped by the showroom. So I called up the owner again, detailing all the issues he was very patient during the whole conversation. He then offered to replace all the hardware free of cost and for all the parts which were not present in the showroom (e.g., the fuel tank) will be replaced at the service center. This calmed me down considerably and I decided to go for the bike as the discount was quite lucrative.

    So, after deciding on a final price of 1.9k (including registration, insurance etc.), I bought the bike with a Pannier set, adventure handlebars, bar-end weights, drum cylinder guard (all inclusive in the 1.9k). I am yet to find another problem with the bike and it has been running smoothly. Much to my surprise, the gear shifts were much smoother than my duke 200 and the ride quality is of course very very plush.

    What do you guys think, did I make the right choice or should I have not taken up the offer and gotten the ABS version instead?

    P.S. Oh and by the way, my Jawa booking is still valid, anyone interested in getting a Jawa in the next 4-5 months ? I am just kidding, Jawa bookings are non-transferable.
    For the price you paid, and the inclusions provided, it's a sweet package, where we're looking north of 2.4L with these accessories for a new one. Though the red flags you've mentioned are the usual deal breaker, it's good that you took in the PDI check as a mandatory one. Usually, a bike that goes at a sale for discount is either a test drive bike or a new bike that was transit damaged which are then sold by the dealer at a discount. There's nothing wrong with the bike as such, it's decently reliable for what its worth, and now that you've sorted most of the red flags such as fuel tank, handlebar, battery (very important). Also, since the KM has not exceeded 100 kays and all the paraphernalia replaced, it's a sweet deal.

    Do observe for the following.
    1. Engine temperature.
    2. Oil leaks.
    3. Too much vibrations
    4. Loose nuts and bolts, here and there are a high probability with this bike, so it's always better to take heed.

    The gearbox was re-worked by RE, as the first batches of RE that came out when launched had a horrible gearbox. Grinding and extremely hard gear issue was proactively rectified by Royal Enfield and other petty issues reported by first adopters, and then came the 2017-2018 FI Himalayan.

    This bike does need a little extra care than usual, do that and it rewards the user well.



    Quote Originally Posted by prasadD400 View Post
    I don't know why you went for a off road bike when u had a highway requiments.(u must have tried test ride of jawa).
    Hi Prasad. When compared to the Dominar, the rider triangle is far better in the Himalayan. And it's a common misnomer that the Himlayan is a specific off-road bike, which is not the case. The bike is a dual-sport. The bike is primarily designed for street and long distance comfortable cruising in mind with the ability to take on roads-no-roads with ease, and staying true to the tag, it does everything well. The fact that a user needs to keep in mind is not to push the bike too much in off-road, as its weight can in fact be a bummer, but take it easy and this bike will go places, as easily as a specific street bike.

    The big 21 inch wheels, and the 200 mm travel front forks are a boon for off roads and slushy roads and pot hole ridden roads. The tires do have their drawback with poor grip on gravel, and too much lean angle isn't their forte.

    The pillion comfort is far better than the Dominar, the rider triangle and shock absorption capabilities are far, far better than Dominar, and maintenance too is not as costly as the newer Dominar.

    Cheers!
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    Quote Originally Posted by B7ACKTHORN View Post
    For the price you paid, and the inclusions provided, it's a sweet package, where we're looking north of 2.4L with these accessories for a new one. Though the red flags you've mentioned are the usual deal breaker, it's good that you took in the PDI check as a mandatory one. Usually, a bike that goes at a sale for discount is either a test drive bike or a new bike that was transit damaged which are then sold by the dealer at a discount. There's nothing wrong with the bike as such, it's decently reliable for what its worth, and now that you've sorted most of the red flags such as fuel tank, handlebar, battery (very important). Also, since the KM has not exceeded 100 kays and all the paraphernalia replaced, it's a sweet deal.

    Do observe for the following.
    1. Engine temperature.
    2. Oil leaks.
    3. Too much vibrations
    4. Loose nuts and bolts, here and there are a high probability with this bike, so it's always better to take heed.

    The gearbox was re-worked by RE, as the first batches of RE that came out when launched had a horrible gearbox. Grinding and extremely hard gear issue was proactively rectified by Royal Enfield and other petty issues reported by first adopters, and then came the 2017-2018 FI Himalayan.

    This bike does need a little extra care than usual, do that and it rewards the user well.





    Hi Prasad. When compared to the Dominar, the rider triangle is far better in the Himalayan. And it's a common misnomer that the Himlayan is a specific off-road bike, which is not the case. The bike is a dual-sport. The bike is primarily designed for street and long distance comfortable cruising in mind with the ability to take on roads-no-roads with ease, and staying true to the tag, it does everything well. The fact that a user needs to keep in mind is not to push the bike too much in off-road, as its weight can in fact be a bummer, but take it easy and this bike will go places, as easily as a specific street bike.

    The big 21 inch wheels, and the 200 mm travel front forks are a boon for off roads and slushy roads and pot hole ridden roads. The tires do have their drawback with poor grip on gravel, and too much lean angle isn't their forte.

    The pillion comfort is far better than the Dominar, the rider triangle and shock absorption capabilities are far, far better than Dominar, and maintenance too is not as costly as the newer Dominar.

    Cheers!
    VJ
    I never mentioned dominar as a choice. (I mentioned jawa). My concern was ABS and poor metallurgy and engine life.
    As u told it's a off road oriented bike which also usable in road.
    His requirement was a highway cruising which in terms require good power, lightweight, good brakes, best headlights, good FE etc. There are other good value for money bikes in market considering above points. Ground clearance and long travel front shocks are good in off roading but a stiffer suspension and low GC profile always returns good stability and control which is very much essential in higher speeds( safer speed is 40-60kmph as per GCAP). Slipper clutch is another feature which enables rider to not wory about rear wheel lock during sudden engine breaking. also quick shift also possible ( if knows how to do it and when to do it).
    For bad highways spoke wheels are enough to absorb the impacts IMHO.

    I agree new 2019 dominar is costly compared to his present deal but comparison should be done upon same year of make right. So if any 2018 dominar was available as in such condition, I bet dominar was the right choice.
    I still admire the road presence of Himalayan and nice exhaust note.

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    Quote Originally Posted by prasadD400 View Post
    I still admire the road presence of Himalayan and nice exhaust note.
    True indeed Prasad. The summation was purely based on the nearest sports tourer, the Dominar 400, hence the comparison. The JAWA is indeed a pure street fighter and a decent tourer, but not a dedicated tourer such as the Domi or the Himalayan, but the preference varies per individual, his build and ergonomic factors so on and so forth.

    Cheers!
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    Quote Originally Posted by prasadD400 View Post
    Money wise it's a great deal but if u compare with a safety tag , u lost a much much more important feature, ABS. No matter how much experience we have in riding we can't act as fast as the device works during panic situation.
    Please ride with care in monsoons.
    Engine+ chassis reliability still under question mark.
    I don't know why you went for a off road bike when u had a highway requiments.(u must have tried test ride of jawa).
    I agree it comes with most comfortable pillion seat as well as rider's.
    Please confirm engine and chassis's no are matching (hopefully it ll be fine).
    Check run out of both the spoke wheels( if service center is very near to showroom some mechanics don't hesitate to swap the parts).
    Rusting on engine parts.
    Don't feel bad for pointing out some supposed negatives.
    Mainly ask them for extended warranty and bumper to bumper insurance.
    I Hope you are the first customer in RC.
    Worries apart, if u love the off roading or covered by bad highways patches. U choosen the best bike.
    Happy riding. Ride safe.
    Thanks Prasad for the comment and your concerns. They are genuine and I share some of them, below is my rationale for some of the points you raised:

    1. I do understand the importance of ABS, especially on highways, and yes i do have a doubt in my mind whether going with Non- ABS was a stupid decision. What I told myself was that I have never ridden a bike with ABS, all 3 of my previous bikes didn't have any ABS, so maybe I won't need it anytime soon. I know this is not much of an argument but club that with the discount and it might just make sense.

    2. Yes my use case is mostly highway rides, however as I look at it, Himalaya provides a more versatile package than a Jawa (or 2018 Dominar). While on a Jawa I might be able to cruise the highways, but its seat is just as hard as a Duke's and its pillion seat is practically non-existent. So long distance rides on Jawa needs some modification with the seats. Further, if we talk about Jawa's capability on bad roads/no roads. I believe you'll have agree that Himalayan is better there. Plus news like these - https://www.rushlane.com/jawa-motorc...-12321152.html or the fact that my Jawa will be delivered by January 2020 (as per their updated delivery estimator) wasn't really giving me any confidence in the bike or in CLPL.

    3. Engine + Chassis reliability may not be at par with the Japanese machines, but its up there with the likes of other home brewed machines we get here in India. Also, I try and take extreme care of my rides. Never have I ever passed 600 kilometers without a chain cleaning and oiling. So I believe if there are any issues with this RE as well (like my 2017 TB500), it should come to light in a timely fashion.

    4. For the run out of spoke wheels, I have been ridden the bike for about 200 kilometer, haven yet felt any wobbles or other anomalies. However, if there is anything more technical i should be doing to check this, please let me know and i will be happy to do so.

    5. Will definitely be extending my warranty for the maximum amount possible. Thanks for the suggestion.

    6. Very first customer on RC

    To be honest, I would've not gone with RE again if there was a better choice. But as we know, no bike is perfect both Dominar and Jawa on paper might seem like a better deal than Himalayan but they all have their shortcomings. We always take a chance when getting a new bike under 7 lakh in India, so I took mine, let's see how long this lasts, cheers!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by B7ACKTHORN View Post
    For the price you paid, and the inclusions provided, it's a sweet package, where we're looking north of 2.4L with these accessories for a new one. Though the red flags you've mentioned are the usual deal breaker, it's good that you took in the PDI check as a mandatory one. Usually, a bike that goes at a sale for discount is either a test drive bike or a new bike that was transit damaged which are then sold by the dealer at a discount. There's nothing wrong with the bike as such, it's decently reliable for what its worth, and now that you've sorted most of the red flags such as fuel tank, handlebar, battery (very important). Also, since the KM has not exceeded 100 kays and all the paraphernalia replaced, it's a sweet deal.

    Do observe for the following.
    1. Engine temperature.
    2. Oil leaks.
    3. Too much vibrations
    4. Loose nuts and bolts, here and there are a high probability with this bike, so it's always better to take heed.

    The gearbox was re-worked by RE, as the first batches of RE that came out when launched had a horrible gearbox. Grinding and extremely hard gear issue was proactively rectified by Royal Enfield and other petty issues reported by first adopters, and then came the 2017-2018 FI Himalayan.

    This bike does need a little extra care than usual, do that and it rewards the user well.





    Hi Prasad. When compared to the Dominar, the rider triangle is far better in the Himalayan. And it's a common misnomer that the Himlayan is a specific off-road bike, which is not the case. The bike is a dual-sport. The bike is primarily designed for street and long distance comfortable cruising in mind with the ability to take on roads-no-roads with ease, and staying true to the tag, it does everything well. The fact that a user needs to keep in mind is not to push the bike too much in off-road, as its weight can in fact be a bummer, but take it easy and this bike will go places, as easily as a specific street bike.

    The big 21 inch wheels, and the 200 mm travel front forks are a boon for off roads and slushy roads and pot hole ridden roads. The tires do have their drawback with poor grip on gravel, and too much lean angle isn't their forte.

    The pillion comfort is far better than the Dominar, the rider triangle and shock absorption capabilities are far, far better than Dominar, and maintenance too is not as costly as the newer Dominar.

    Cheers!
    VJ
    Thanks VJ, appreciate the comment.

    For the points you have mentioned, here's my view on them after the initial 200kms.


    1. Engine temperature - currently it runs hotter than expected, but I believe this is something which will be fixed after the first service (happened with my friend's Himalayan as well.
    2. Oil leaks - Trust me, after my previous TB500, I literally take a flashlight and magnifying lens to check for these. During these sessions, i hate the fact that the engine is painted black.
    3. Too much vibrations - I was pleasantly surprised with mellowed down vibrations even at high RPMs. Finally the rear view mirrors can be used like they were supposed to. I believe this is because of the introduction of counterbalance in the engine. Lets see how this ages overtime.
    4. Loose nuts and bolts - always had trouble with these, but I try to keep up with all that should be in its place and all that is missing


    I try and stay away from comparing bikes, because as i mentioned in my previous post, No bike is perfect. It all depends on what fits best to my use case. I know it is a gamble, not knowing so would've been foolish of me. But it's a gamble where I get to tilt the probability towards my side by running through PDI checks and precautionary take on maintenance.

    rest, lets see how it rolls.
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