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    Post Re: Royal Enfield Himalayan

    Quote Originally Posted by blackspark3 View Post
    My first post in xbhp. Bought a new bs6 Himalayan gravel grey recently! I*like to share about how I ended up on Hima. My preferences were Dominar 400, Himalayan, Interceptor. My requirements was a bike that takes me to long distances comfortably. A touring bike. Though, I am just a weekend rider, I am planning to ride more in future.

    On the other hand, the newly opened RE dealer near my home got some really good reviews on google. And it's MD is friend of someone who I know closely. Though, I didn't tell them when I visited. I took a test drive and the customer handling seems satisfactory. And importantly, I loved the bike. My heart told me, it's Himalayan. So, I took time for thinking and booked it and got delivered in 2 weeks!

    And I have to sincerely thank B7ACKTHORN for his various posts in this forum which helped me get a clear thought and idea about choosing a bike. It really helped me! Thank you once again brother for your amazing posts and inputs in this forum and all those who shared their experiences!
    Blackspark, welcome to the forum. Congratulations on your purchase, and appreciate you taking the time to pen down your thoughts. The Hima is purely a sedate riding machine, 95-100 is where all the fun lies, and you can cruise all day long without breaking a sweat. Take your time to getting used to the geometry of the bike, the way it turns around corners, handles especially, and the weight of the bike, when rambling it around with ones legs at tights spaces. A liveable, decent quality bike that will last a while.
    A few items, I'd suggest you to keep it in home are:
    1. Throttle cable.
    2. Clutch cable.
    3. Spare front and rear tubes.

    Always carry the cables and tubes whenever you're planning a long trip, you just never know when they might come in handy. Get your valve clearances inspected during the second service irrespective of what the guys at the SVC say. It's crucial clearances are checked early, to prevent the infamous "clanking" sound that comes after clocking a couple of thousand kays.

    Ride safe!

    Cheers!
    VJ
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    Default Re: Royal Enfield Himalayan

    I am looking to buy a used REH. Please guide me on the following:

    1) Shall i go for BS3 or BS4 variant. As there seems to be quite some improvements which RE says they've made(clutch, alternator, FI, chassis reinforcement etc)
    2) What kind of things shall i make sure to check while checking the bike
    3) what should be the ideal price for 2016 bs3, 2017 bs3, 2017 bs4. 2018 models would be out of my budget. I am not looking at bikes which have done more than 20k kms.

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    Post Re: Royal Enfield Himalayan

    Quote Originally Posted by Sahil Goel View Post
    I am looking to buy a used REH. Please guide me on the following:

    1) Shall i go for BS3 or BS4 variant. As there seems to be quite some improvements which RE says they've made(clutch, alternator, FI, chassis reinforcement etc)
    2) What kind of things shall i make sure to check while checking the bike
    3) what should be the ideal price for 2016 bs3, 2017 bs3, 2017 bs4. 2018 models would be out of my budget. I am not looking at bikes which have done more than 20k kms.

    Thanks
    Strike out any BS3 vehicles on your list, irrespective of the KMs they've run. Stick with BS4 models. For a used bike, pretty much everything you can lay your eyes on needs to be inspected.

    Starting off with the important bits.

    1. Ensure that the battery is good and holding charge well.
    2. Once the engine is warmed up, listen for any clattering or knocking sounds. Very important, check repeatedly for proper cranking and firing up of the engine. Starter motor condition is important.
    3. Make sure the chain condition is good.
    4. Check if the tires are in good shape. Get the spokes trued in case you have loose spokes, which I'd strongly recommend irrespective of how good the wheels/spokes are.
    5. Once you ride the bike, inspect for any wobbles and take it to your trusted mechanic for checking the T stem bearing, very important.

    That's pretty much it, rest are basically general stuff, horns, lights, etc.

    Cheers!
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    Default Re: Royal Enfield Himalayan

    Thanks for your valuable suggestions! Yes, Himalayan is sedate riding machine! I felt it and I love it. But, one thing that spoils my experience is the engine cutoff while running!

    It happens mostly during morning when I first take the bike. And also during whenever I take it after parking for some one hour. Once the engine heats up or say after 4-5 kms it minimises. And when riding on highways, it never happens. I told this to the SVC during 1st service. They diagnosed it with a tool and it showed 'fuel pump relay error'. They cleared it with that diagnostic tool & said now it will be okay!

    But, it still remained. I came here and searched for some solution.Then I myself got adjusted the clutch free play with the manual recommended 2-3mm at the pivot end. After that it seems like it got minimised. But then it again creeps in after some time. Again, I took it to SVC. They checked and said, some kind of choke(they have not explained to me clearly, also I don't have that much knowledge here) has gone because of manufacturing defect and it needs to be replaced and that part will take one week to come.

    Three days gone, again I went and asked. This time some senior member said, he had consulted with some expert team and said the choke part was fine & no need to be replaced. He said, the team asked him to adjust some throttle push & some kind of battery voltage adjustment... I asked him to explain it in simple terms. He said something but frankly I didn't understand that. And he asked me to leave the bike for that solution.

    Today morning when I took the bike, the engine cutoff happened 9 times in just 3 kms. I left the bike at SVC and asked them to do that what they said. When I get the bike, I will ask them what they have done and will update the status here. And any help here is much appreciated!!!
    Quote Originally Posted by B7ACKTHORN View Post
    Blackspark, welcome to the forum. Congratulations on your purchase, and appreciate you taking the time to pen down your thoughts. The Hima is purely a sedate riding machine, 95-100 is where all the fun lies, and you can cruise all day long without breaking a sweat. Take your time to getting used to the geometry of the bike, the way it turns around corners, handles especially, and the weight of the bike, when rambling it around with ones legs at tights spaces. A liveable, decent quality bike that will last a while.
    A few items, I'd suggest you to keep it in home are:
    1. Throttle cable.
    2. Clutch cable.
    3. Spare front and rear tubes.

    Always carry the cables and tubes whenever you're planning a long trip, you just never know when they might come in handy. Get your valve clearances inspected during the second service irrespective of what the guys at the SVC say. It's crucial clearances are checked early, to prevent the infamous "clanking" sound that comes after clocking a couple of thousand kays.

    Ride safe!

    Cheers!
    VJ

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    Post Re: Royal Enfield Himalayan

    Quote Originally Posted by blackspark3 View Post
    Thanks for your valuable suggestions! Yes, Himalayan is sedate riding machine! I felt it and I love it. But, one thing that spoils my experience is the engine cutoff while running!

    It happens mostly during morning when I first take the bike. And also during whenever I take it after parking for some one hour. Once the engine heats up or say after 4-5 kms it minimises. And when riding on highways, it never happens. I told this to the SVC during 1st service. They diagnosed it with a tool and it showed 'fuel pump relay error'. They cleared it with that diagnostic tool & said now it will be okay!

    But, it still remained. I came here and searched for some solution.Then I myself got adjusted the clutch free play with the manual recommended 2-3mm at the pivot end. After that it seems like it got minimised. But then it again creeps in after some time. Again, I took it to SVC. They checked and said, some kind of choke(they have not explained to me clearly, also I don't have that much knowledge here) has gone because of manufacturing defect and it needs to be replaced and that part will take one week to come.

    Three days gone, again I went and asked. This time some senior member said, he had consulted with some expert team and said the choke part was fine & no need to be replaced. He said, the team asked him to adjust some throttle push & some kind of battery voltage adjustment... I asked him to explain it in simple terms. He said something but frankly I didn't understand that. And he asked me to leave the bike for that solution.

    Today morning when I took the bike, the engine cutoff happened 9 times in just 3 kms. I left the bike at SVC and asked them to do that what they said. When I get the bike, I will ask them what they have done and will update the status here. And any help here is much appreciated!!!
    Frequent stalling and the fact that your ECM diagnoses has isolated it to a faulty relay, it's high time they replace the relay. The relay is what powers the fuel pump, if the relay isn't supplying the power necessary for the pump, the pump won't feed fuel to the engine, and in turn will cause frequent stalling or complete failure. I'd suggest you ask that your SVC replace your fuel pump relay, that's one. Secondly, make sure your fuel pump pressure is right, which the SVC can check.

    Stalling can be due to altogether different reasons also, but for now, let's see what their prognosis is. Keep your observations posted.

    Cheers!
    VJ
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    Default Re: Royal Enfield Himalayan

    Thank you B7ACKTHORN! So, yesterday evening got the bike from SVC. THE PROBLEM HAS SOLVED! Asked them what they did. They connected the diagnostic tool and showed me the throttle push(TP) values and it's battery voltage values and said they had slightly increased the battery voltage value in accordance with the throttle push. And also said they had removed the tank and adjusted something in the fuel injection part.

    I tested the bike and it was all fine. I tested the bike today morning and the engine stalling never happened. I tested extensively taking the bike through every nook and corner in my locality, the engine cutoff never happened!

    I hope it never creeps in again! I love this bike and I am happy right now!

    Another thing I complained to them was this knocking sound from silencer when the bike is left stationary/parking after riding it. It's not the engine tick tick sound. It's like 'tup' you know like a sound from a tin can. It comes 4-5 times and goes off after some 4-5 minutes. They said it's due to the gas from the catalytic converter and said it's normal and nothing to worry! I hope so!

    Later, I will share my thoughts about the bike and also I have some questions regarding modifications. Will post that sooner!
    Quote Originally Posted by B7ACKTHORN View Post
    Frequent stalling and the fact that your ECM diagnoses has isolated it to a faulty relay, it's high time they replace the relay. The relay is what powers the fuel pump, if the relay isn't supplying the power necessary for the pump, the pump won't feed fuel to the engine, and in turn will cause frequent stalling or complete failure. I'd suggest you ask that your SVC replace your fuel pump relay, that's one. Secondly, make sure your fuel pump pressure is right, which the SVC can check.

    Stalling can be due to altogether different reasons also, but for now, let's see what their prognosis is. Keep your observations posted.

    Cheers!
    VJ

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    Post Re: Royal Enfield Himalayan

    Quote Originally Posted by blackspark3 View Post
    Thank you B7ACKTHORN! So, yesterday evening got the bike from SVC. THE PROBLEM HAS SOLVED! Asked them what they did. They connected the diagnostic tool and showed me the throttle push(TP) values and it's battery voltage values and said they had slightly increased the battery voltage value in accordance with the throttle push. And also said they had removed the tank and adjusted something in the fuel injection part.

    I tested the bike and it was all fine. I tested the bike today morning and the engine stalling never happened. I tested extensively taking the bike through every nook and corner in my locality, the engine cutoff never happened!

    I hope it never creeps in again! I love this bike and I am happy right now!

    Later, I will share my thoughts about the bike and also I have some questions regarding modifications. Will post that sooner!
    That's great! Now, even I can't fathom as to what "tweaking" they did, if all seems good, then that's all that matters, though they could have helped you in getting insight as to what specifically they did. Honestly, from what you've posted, I couldn't infer a thing or isolate to what. But, do keep a tab on the issue for a week.

    Ride safe!

    Cheers!
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    Had the OE handlebar replaced with one from Thunderbird X -higher by 30mm and the bend comes closer to the body for a more relaxed posture.Cost Rs640 for the handlebar and Rs226 labour charges-Rs866 total

    @blackspark3 ,my bike stalls too when cold and in slow speed riding but not as frequently as your's did -guess will get it checked up at the RE ASC if it continues to do so-completed 1250 kms yesterday in 37 days of ownership
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    Quote Originally Posted by zestbiker View Post
    Had the OE handlebar replaced with one from Thunderbird X -higher by 30mm and the bend comes closer to the body for a more relaxed posture.Cost Rs640 for the handlebar and Rs226 labour charges-Rs866 total
    ZB, can you please post a better picture of the handlebar. The image is not visible, requesting you to reupload the picture with a cockpit view. Were there any issues with the routing and cabling? Hope there was no tight spots with cables, especially accelerator and clutch cable. Would like to know more on this.

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    @B7ACKTHORN
    Was not present at the ASC when this was done-but find no movement constraints on reverifying after your post.The cables and wiring surely does'nt look pushed/pulled-the fact that the OE trained staff did this change -infact it was suggested by the chief mechanic when i talked to him about changing position of OE handlebar as i found it to be too low especially while riding standing up.
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