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    Quote Originally Posted by MotoMan View Post
    15k is for splendor/passion. I've experienced it. Cbz/hunk/hornet require 5k km for opening up. This topic has been discussed in the splendor and cbz xtreme threads.

    All honda/hero gearboxes are initially hard but gradually become slick. Never ridden a classic cbz though so won't comment on that.

    Xpulse's engine is based on the unicorn engine. A long term review will provide better picture of refinement.

    Edit- older bikes ( pre 2010, HH or any make) run on lower compression, have non cat free flow exhausts and mostly run on 20w oils. Post 2010 (bs3) bikes run on higher compression, have catcon, are heavier and run on 10w oils. Older bikes are obviously more refined but new bikes are considerably faster. My 120kg passion pro does 0-60 in 8 sec. CbzX is much faster than classic cbz. So it's not logical to compare them.
    all herohonda bikes post 2000 came with catalytic convertor and ais, and the speed difference between the old models and new ones are nothing to write home
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    @RBK I am saying it from experience.
    A long term review from your side would be very helpful.
    @kb100 only bs3 and bs4 spec herohonda bikes have catcon.

    The 2000-2009 mdl or euro2 splendor/splendor+ is non-cat. Has a true top speed of 100+kph without any vibration and runs on a compression ratio of 8.8:1. My bs3 passion pro doesn't cross 90 kph but is a lot quicker to reach there. The case is same with classic cbz and cbzX. But due to overall restrictions, the newer bikes will feel harsh near their limits.
    Add to that here's a list of compression ratio's,

    Splendor+ i3s 100cc- 9.9:1
    Splendor ismart 110- 10:1
    Xpulse200- 10:1
    Hornet 160r- 10:1
    Apache rtr200 9.7:1
    Pulsar 150- 9.5:1

    All the above data is of 2k19 models. You can see that even a commuter bike from hero runs on higher compression than it's peers.

    All new hero engines are not entirely new. Hero has bought complete rights to the 100,125,150, 102( old activa/ pleasure) and 223cc honda engines. Hero has practically and logically used honda engines as the base for developing the new engines. Also the bs3/bs4 bore kits for hero and honda are way more expensive than bs2 kits.

    I am ending this topic right here. It's just what I've experienced in recent years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MotoMan View Post
    @RBK I am saying it from experience.
    A long term review from your side would be very helpful.
    @kb100 only bs3 and bs4 spec herohonda bikes have catcon.

    The 2000-2009 mdl or euro2 splendor/splendor+ is non-cat. Has a true top speed of 100+kph without any vibration and runs on a compression ratio of 8.8:1. My bs3 passion pro doesn't cross 90 kph but is a lot quicker to reach there. The case is same with classic cbz and cbzX. But due to overall restrictions, the newer bikes will feel harsh near their limits.
    Add to that here's a list of compression ratio's,

    Splendor+ i3s 100cc- 9.9:1
    Splendor ismart 110- 10:1
    Xpulse200- 10:1
    Hornet 160r- 10:1
    Apache rtr200 9.7:1
    Pulsar 150- 9.5:1

    All the above data is of 2k19 models. You can see that even a commuter bike from hero runs on higher compression than it's peers.

    All new hero engines are not entirely new. Hero has bought complete rights to the 100,125,150, 102( old activa/ pleasure) and 223cc honda engines. Hero has practically and logically used honda engines as the base for developing the new engines. Also the bs3/bs4 bore kits for hero and honda are way more expensive than bs2 kits.

    I am ending this topic right here. It's just what I've experienced in recent years.
    who asked you anything about compression ratios anyway, and i dont know where you get your information from , the post 2000 hero hondas came with cats, i can vividly remember a small green sticker on the rear fender of the splendors and a similar one on the heat shields of cbzs warning of the vehicle being euro2/bharat 2000 emissions norms compliant and of the presence of catcon , and not to use leaded fuel
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    Quote Originally Posted by kb100 View Post
    who asked you anything about compression ratios anyway, and i dont know where you get your information from , the post 2000 hero hondas came with cats, i can vividly remember a small green sticker on the rear fender of the splendors and a similar one on the heat shields of cbzs warning of the vehicle being euro2/bharat 2000 emissions norms compliant and of the presence of catcon , and not to use leaded fuel
    This. My dad's 2000 CD-100SS (sold) came with a Cat Exhaust. His 1994 CD-100 retains a non-cat till date. AFAIK, only some of the 2000 Splendors and earlier models came with non-cat. Post BS2 and henceforth, all are cat models having 9:1 ratio. Post 2010 or so, they bumped the same 100cc engine to produce 8.24bhp and increased compression by 0.9 making it 9.9:1. This post 2010 engine at first was offered on Splendor and Passion Pro and now being offered on all 100cc Hero bikes. Only difference is the BSIV adjustments. The top speed thing isn't related to engine itself. It's about the true console indications. You can use a non contact type speed gauge to measure it in actual. 80kmph is the highest this engine will make before stressing off like hell. The old meters showed this as 90km/hr. But the true top speed has been always around 80. Power delivery has been tampered with BSIII bikes and tuning has been adjusted. Post BSII, lighter pistons were used, affecting with the insane torque which people mistake for more power. Initial is the only good thing about old HH bikes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kb100 View Post
    who askcbz.. you anything about compression ratios anyway, and i dont know where you get your information from , the post 2000 hero hondas came with cats, i can vividly remember a small green sticker on the rear fender of the splendors and a similar one on the heat shields of cbzs warning of the vehicle being euro2/bharat 2000 emissions norms compliant and of the presence of catcon , and not to use leaded fuel
    Man, it's a public forum and I can post my knowledge. You can get all the info on the websites of the respective manufacturers. There a new website called hgpmart.com. There it is clearly mentioned that non-cat mufflers were used for 100cc bikes until 2009. There's a whooping 3000rs difference in the price of catcon and non cat mufflers. Bs3 norms were introduced in 2010 only.

    Regarding cbz, I only said that cbzX is faster than classic cbz.
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    @Bismaya, bro 100cc bikes have got catcon from bs3/2010 onwards. I am speaking of bs2 splendor and not cd100. Old Splendor crosses 100 while it runs on a compression ratio of just 8.8:1.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MotoMan View Post
    Man, it's a public forum and I can post my knowledge.You can get all the info on the websites of the respective manufacturers. There a new website called hgpmart.com. There it is clearly mentioned that non-cat mufflers were used for 100cc bikes until 2009. There's a whooping 3000rs difference in the price of catcon and non cat mufflers. Bs3 norms were introduced in 2010 only.
    really, you realize that this is a public forum only now, and you did not think it prudent to verify your "knowledge" before posting, and you figured out that the hero spares vendor page to be the best place to find when what parts where used and not the parts catalog or the people who have owned the respective bikes/still own them

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    Quote Originally Posted by MotoMan View Post
    @Bismaya, bro 100cc bikes have got catcon from bs3/2010 onwards. I am speaking of bs2 splendor and not cd100. Old Splendor crosses 100 while it runs on a compression ratio of just 8.8:1.
    ever heard of speedo error
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    Quote Originally Posted by kb100 View Post
    really, you realize that this is a public forum only now, and you did not think it prudent to verify your "knowledge" before posting, and you figured out that the hero spares vendor page to be the best place to find when what parts where used and not the parts catalog or the people who have owned the respective bikes/still own them

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    ever heard of speedo error
    Well, I have parts catalogs of almost all HH bikes post 2000. And I agree that a splendors meter has speedo error. But we've done the speed run on our MC highway along with a cbzX. Now cbzX has one of the most accurate speedos and can you say that it was showing wrong reading while chasing the splendor at 100+ kph?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MotoMan View Post
    Well, I have parts catalogs of almost all HH bikes post 2000. And I agree that a splendors meter has speedo error. But we've done the speed run on our MC highway along with a cbzX. Now cbzX has one of the most accurate speedos and can you say that it was showing wrong reading while chasing the splendor at 100+ kph?
    there is no such thing as accurate speedos , get a sigma type cyclecomp, or a speedgun or minimum of gps to find the speed
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    Now if you don't know, 2011 karizmaZMR and cbzX use one of the most accurate speedos. They are as accurate as GPS.

    And hgpmart.com is heros official spareparts website and not a vendor page. There you can select any part and check the compatibility with your bike. So don't judge others posts without proper knowledge.

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