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    thanks blackfire for the replies

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    Quote Originally Posted by prakash_mvpa View Post
    thanks blackfire for the replies
    Hey Prakash!

    You are welcome mate, anytime.

    Take care.

    Happy thumping,
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    Smile Enfield Heating issue :-

    Hi bulletteers ,

    I used to worry about the heating up of engine(350cc to be exact) during traffic stops and in city rides.Is there anything to worry about the heating? should we need to change the Oil frequently if the bullet is used for city riding?

    Also ,I heard that AVL engines used to heat more than CI engines but can cop up with the heat.
    and this hot air touching your legs while in city stops is worrying for some one who is new to bullets .

    One more thing.anybody using Spring loaded seats(full seat not like cycle seats) ??Here there is custom bullet seats made spring loaded but for a whopping 3000rupees :shock: .but worth the penny after some time.

    Let us share your info.I will tell my opinion at last
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    Quote Originally Posted by prakash_mvpa View Post
    Hi bulletteers ,

    I used to worry about the heating up of engine(350cc to be exact) during traffic stops and in city rides.Is there anything to worry about the heating? should we need to change the Oil frequently if the bullet is used for city riding?

    Also ,I heard that AVL engines used to heat more than CI engines but can cop up with the heat.
    and this hot air touching your legs while in city stops is worrying for some one who is new to bullets .

    One more thing.anybody using Spring loaded seats(full seat not like cycle seats) ??Here there is custom bullet seats made spring loaded but for a whopping 3000rupees :shock: .but worth the penny after some time.

    Let us share your info.I will tell my opinion at last
    Hi Prakash!

    Hey man, about the heating, Bullets do heat up a little more than other bikes, but then the normal range is when you can touch the right side of your engine, i.e. the timing cover for a good 2-3 seconds, without feeling a sensation of burning. And yes, a Bullet, or for that matter any engine being used in stress conditions, like that of city must be given new oil at a lesser interval. The oil is what keeps the engine lubricated, & also cools it to some extent, with air playing the other half. So, with greater heat, the life of the oil also deteriorates, & basically the oil molecules that stick together to form a film, start disintegrating. Imagine a jelly, melting when it's heated. Something of a similar sort.

    About feeling the hot air between your legs, it's normal with Bullets, but like I said, try doing this simple test that I just mentioned above. I am sure that your bike's normal & healthy.

    As for the seat, these seats are expensive, our very own Deep got those seats for around 2.5K if I remember correctly. So, it's up to you to really decide on the quality & whether or not you have to go in for it.

    And oh, as for AVLs, they have better oil pumps, but then they also run leaner, owing to the greater heat generated, but this is compensated by better oil pumps. I haven't really heard of AVLs feeling hotter than the CIs, except for the initial batches when they were launched, when there were stories of heads cracking, but not now. Take care.

    Happy thumping,
    Prakhar
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    Agreed that the new LB Thunderbird gives a better mileage, but can anyone specify how much? Also please specify the mileage for the older Cast Iron units. My friend here owns a Thunderbird CI unit, and it gives him a mileage of about 25-28 kmpl. Just wanted to know if that is the optimum mileage of a Bullet Thunderbird.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hellraiSEr View Post
    Agreed that the new LB Thunderbird gives a better mileage, but can anyone specify how much? Also please specify the mileage for the older Cast Iron units. My friend here owns a Thunderbird CI unit, and it gives him a mileage of about 25-28 kmpl. Just wanted to know if that is the optimum mileage of a Bullet Thunderbird.
    Hi mate!

    Hey man, as for the Thunderbird, it was never available with a CI (cast-iron) engine, it was always an AVL until recently, when the UCE engine platform was launched. Are you referring to the CityBike500 or some other model?

    The mileage of a Thunderbird was anywhere between 35-40, though, I have heard claims of up to 44kmpl. The new UCE Thunderbird should give close to 45kmpl.

    Take care.

    Happy thumping,
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    thanks again prabhakaran.
    and yes ,what a coincidence ! I did that test even without knowing your recommendation(touching clutch case). yes ,it is fine.

    and any tips regarding *LESS* use of clutch in worst riding conditions for bulls like city riding? in highways ,it is OK ki we use half clutch for downshift saving the part .but but...in towns ,what we can do?

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    Thanks for the information Prakhar. My bad, I made a mistake in thinking the Thunderbird to be of CI. Anyways, would the new TBTS be easy to manage than the older one or is it vice versa? Also, the mileage that you quoted, i.e. 44 kmpl, it is under sane riding... right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by prakash_mvpa View Post
    thanks again prabhakaran.
    and yes ,what a coincidence ! I did that test even without knowing your recommendation(touching clutch case). yes ,it is fine.

    and any tips regarding *LESS* use of clutch in worst riding conditions for bulls like city riding? in highways ,it is OK ki we use half clutch for downshift saving the part .but but...in towns ,what we can do?
    Who is Prabhakaran?

    And try to check the timming case instead of the clutch case cause the clutch case does not really share that much of engine heat.

    Hmm i dont know why exactly would you look for less usage of the clutch

    just use it when needed slecting the best possible gear for your bike according to the RPM and the Speed you would be able to manage it fine.
    like in my case with my STD350 i can go down to around 20 KMPH and still keep riding without using the clutch and when i have to pull it pulls without any knocking or other things. and this all is in the top gear thats the 4rth.

    where as in The Electra 350 thats is a 2002 model it has to be shifted down to 3rd any thing bellow 40KMPH...

    but again if we looks at it i would not know whats the character Prakhar will be able to enlighten us with it. in normal riding my STD does not have that much of pickup like the ELECTRA
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    Quote Originally Posted by hellraiSEr View Post
    Thanks for the information Prakhar. My bad, I made a mistake in thinking the Thunderbird to be of CI. Anyways, would the new TBTS be easy to manage than the older one or is it vice versa? Also, the mileage that you quoted, i.e. 44 kmpl, it is under sane riding... right?
    Hi mate!

    Hey bud, you are more than welcome, & this way, not only you, but I also learn things in a lot better way.

    And it's not a problem, at times I commit the same mistake but then who doesn't (haha).

    Anyways, to your question, I didn't really understand as to what you meant by ease of operation, or ease of handling. As far as the engine is concerned, I personally feel that the parts are going to be very expensive, so handling the maintenance if need arises could be trouble. But please don't get scared. It's just that I am a little unsure about what specifically you are trying to ask, so please mention the context.

    Well, yes, under sane, normal riding conditions.

    Take care.

    Happy thumping,
    Prakhar

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