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    Quote Originally Posted by shv18 View Post
    Well bro,

    Joel told me he usually ships the FFE within 2 - 3 weeks from the date of confirmation of the order. I would most likely get it installed at the svc itself with along with my upcoming 5th free bike servicing and tip the mechanic with some cash for services rendered .. it is a simple plug and play so my guess the installation should not take more than 10-15 mins based on the efficiency of the svc mechanic..

    regarding the mods..for me i donot intend to sell my fz for atleast next 3 years... its the first bike that i have bought with my own blood and sweat.. anyways as of now it is not even barely a year old although i have already crossed 10,000 kms mark on the odo...

    Regardless, i intend to make me FZ a hardcore touring machine so based on retaining it for the above mentioned period, for me it justifies the costs involved. And for obvious reasons, you cannot compare the performance factor of a souped FZ and that of an R15. Both are purpose built machines. R15 as we all know, is an insane Bigger race inspired track bike, whereas FZ is a street bike.

    As of now no one has tried the full mods yet so i guess we donot know the full potential of our bikes yet post doktor's operation . My stock bike as of now does 105 - 108 decently, without crouching, without a pillion and hits 115 kmph after a really really long long time...which is the dreary part.

    So let me get hold of the FFE first and experience it and post the results... if the performance is promising then i will go ahead with full scale mods...

    you can probably then take a call whether its worth going ahead with the mods on your fz or rather go ahead with a used R15 and do the mods as in when your cash state permits!!

    In the long run, i intend to pick up a used R15/ the new one (really getting tempted!!) as my 2nd bike and joelise it completely stagewise.. So FZ will be my touring ride and R15 a crazy pocket rocket!!

    Cheers
    I can understand you point of view buddy, even I have worked hard for 1 year for my very first bike i.e my baby FZ & undeniably I have been very happy with the purchase. My heart would never let me get any other bike in replacement for my FZ but the mind keeps wandering for affordable & feasible options. Anyways I would realy wait a couple of months before takiing the leap. If all those mods combined would give me enough power gain to keep up with 120 kmph effortlessly all day ( like R15 ) then BYE BYE R15
    Till then I'll be in touch with you as you get your FZ joeled. If you dont mind, I may want to accompany you for the installation of FFE from Yamaha SVC.
    Surely you wont be allowed to do the mod officially in any SVC but I know a mechanic from Kamala Yamaha very well so let me know if you need any help with that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mitz View Post
    I can understand you point of view buddy, even I have worked hard for 1 year for my very first bike i.e my baby FZ & undeniably I have been very happy with the purchase. My heart would never let me get any other bike in replacement for my FZ but the mind keeps wandering for affordable & feasible options. Anyways I would realy wait a couple of months before takiing the leap. If all those mods combined would give me enough power gain to keep up with 120 kmph effortlessly all day ( like R15 ) then BYE BYE R15
    Till then I'll be in touch with you as you get your FZ joeled. If you dont mind, I may want to accompany you for the installation of FFE from Yamaha SVC.
    Surely you wont be allowed to do the mod officially in any SVC but I know a mechanic from Kamala Yamaha very well so let me know if you need any help with that.
    currently i am not in mumbai.. busy on a project in the north east india.. but yeah you are most welcome to join me for the ffe installation.

    The last time i had a conversation with joel... a souped up joelled fz completely decimated an RTR 180 (stock bike i presume, who's top speed if i am correct is 125 kmph on the odo)... and the guy who got it souped is not from xbhp.... so my guess the Joelled FZ's top speed should be well above 130-135 kmph+ and may be playing around with sprocketing after the doktor's advice even higher. But lets not speculate right now...

    stage 1: post FFE installation results are what i am concerned about..


    cheers
    Last edited by shv18; 05-27-2011 at 02:06 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shv18 View Post
    try having a word with Joel (joel@raceconcepts.in) before you intend to go for daytona kit. i have already posted long back on this thread about kits available from his end. Performance, pricing & reliability wise, offerings from Joel's end are better. Full mods will fetch you 5 bhp increase and all in all your bike would be making 19 bhp (14 bhp stock + 5 bhp by mods) and using his dark arts your bike's FE will also increase.

    Personally i don't see the point of spending 36k+ on Daytona just to get 1-2 bhp more and stupid visual aids. the stock disc brake is more than enough to take care of everything.

    Me and a fellow xbhp member RanjithMN have already ordered a Free Flow exhaust from Joel.. so once i get a hold of it, will post results.

    cheers,
    Do not forget about db cutter. As per the discussion with Joel, the db cutter needs to be removed to experience full performance gain. But within City limits I refarin myself from doing so especially when you are in Mumbai.

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    Quote Originally Posted by abhijitkn View Post
    Do not forget about db cutter. As per the discussion with Joel, the db cutter needs to be removed to experience full performance gain. But within City limits I refrain myself from doing so especially when you are in Mumbai.
    Bro DB cutter/killer is standard with all FFEs from Joel's end unless one has specifically requested not to include it in the kitty. and yes i do agree with you especially in metro cities like mumbai where cops are always on the lookout for an easy cash cow, DB cutter is a must.

    anyways for those who are looking for official confirmation of kits from Joel's end, the website is up and running now :.Welcome To Race Concepts.:

    However, it doesnot cover the extensive work that is carried out on your bike like altered port geometry, head mods etcs... all those details can be taken from joel himself.


    For fellow mates down in South, the official address of Joel's secret layer (or not so secret anymore !!!):
    Race Concepts
    168, T.C. Palya Main Road, Near Reliance Fresh, Krishnarajapuram,
    Bangalore - 560 036.

    cheers
    Last edited by shv18; 05-27-2011 at 02:43 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shv18 View Post
    Bro DB cutter/killer is standard with all FFEs from Joel's end unless one has specifically requested not to include it in the kitty.
    Hi,

    No need to mention it specifically. The db cutter can removed & inserted back as needed.

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    Thanks Mate!!!!!!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by kinshuk.arya View Post
    the stock tyre costs around 2600rs...
    you can also go for mrf zapper which should be cheaper then the stock or the pirelli which costs around 3800rs...

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    Quote Originally Posted by pavandshetty View Post
    I agree FZ-16 is a good bike. What I heard about this bike from my friends is, sometimes it gives worst mileage of 25kmpl. Did you experience this problem?
    Well in my case never happened so far, and i do at times rev its nuts off in all gears!! worst so far is 35 - 36 kmpl with all gear shifts happening post 8000-8500 rpm constantly... if your friends have encountered this 25-28kmpl... the most possible cause is incorrect carburetor setting which is probably on richer fuel - air mixture...

    But on a realistic point of view, it gives 36-45 kmpl based on your riding habits.. if you expect the FZ to give you 50 kmpl+ then this is not the bike for you. Yamaha's are known for performance and not for mileage..

    @Abhijit: yup bro you are right there is no need.. but there are people who have indeed asked for the FFE with no contraption for the removable DB killer... so just for the sake of everyone i have mentioned it that such an option does exist!!..

    cheers,

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    Quote Originally Posted by shv18 View Post
    i am currently awaiting the FFE from Joel.... for me it is stage 1 mod. all final mods post sept... for review for fzgo to first impressions thread
    hi.. m sorry for the confusion, actually I wanted to say was review of "joeled" fz i mean does it feel different(in vibration point of view) from stock fz ?? (P.S. I dont need review for fz/fazer, I already own fazer but I sometimes feel the lack of power).. Also if someone can throw light on the sound difference(if some one can post video of sound of FFE for fz with DB cutter as compared to one without it..)
    One peculiar thing I've noticed, with my fazer (2000 kms + completed), engine becomes a li'll bit harsh at speed range of 56-62 and then becomes smooth again, any other fellow rider experiencing the same problem (is it what is called power band kicking..?? or is there some problem with my bike)

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    Quote Originally Posted by cooolaashu View Post
    One peculiar thing I've noticed, with my fazer (2000 kms + completed), engine becomes a li'll bit harsh at speed range of 56-62 and then becomes smooth again, any other fellow rider experiencing the same problem (is it what is called power band kicking..?? or is there some problem with my bike)
    It's characteristic for most FZs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cooolaashu View Post
    hi.. m sorry for the confusion, actually I wanted to say was review of "joeled" fz i mean does it feel different(in vibration point of view) from stock fz ?? (P.S. I dont need review for fz/fazer, I already own fazer but I sometimes feel the lack of power).. Also if someone can throw light on the sound difference(if some one can post video of sound of FFE for fz with DB cutter as compared to one without it..)
    One peculiar thing I've noticed, with my fazer (2000 kms + completed), engine becomes a li'll bit harsh at speed range of 56-62 and then becomes smooth again, any other fellow rider experiencing the same problem (is it what is called power band kicking..?? or is there some problem with my bike)
    as i have already mentioned in my previous post... so far no one else has done full souped up fz from joel... Currently, the only guys who have ordered Stage1:FFE are me, RanjithMN & may be Abhijitkn... so until i get my hands on it.. no video nothing bro.. but as far as performance and FE factors are concerned with the FFE.. enough have already been said about Joel's work on xbhp and i am more than confident about his work hence, i took this bold step of ordering one and be the lab rat on this thread rather then waiting for someone else to do the same.

    So if you are hungry for more then FFE is the first step as it is just an external mod and you are not tinkering with any internal parts of the engine.. the Joel FFE is only 1-2kgs net weight compared to the stock exhaust, meaning your bike is shedding weight and generating more power i.e. more power:weight ratio.

    plus it is way way way cheaper than the Daytona exhaust system..From there on you can take a call whether its worthy of going for other stages of upgrades or not...

    or else you can wait till 3 of us get our hands on the FFE and then you will have 3 individual unbiased testimonials regarding Joel's kits.

    that little harshness is normal.. nothing to be worried about. Remember it is a single cylinder engine... so bit of vibes are the characteristics of such an engine...

    cheers,


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