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    Originally posted by TenHut View Post
    I dont know man..I weigh 74 and I cannot exceed 170. Not comparing it to CBR lol...
    It might have to do with my 15w50 oil though...it could be killing some top end. I have always thought it did but if the margin is so huge I might wanna look into it again. But I doubt the oil will kill a good 10 kmph at the top.

    Like Invincible said...at about 165-170 the bike has no more juice left in it. I am crouching as low as possible and I never carry weight.
    A full synthetic 15w50 would only affect top end if the engine is not run-in correctly, right? As in - gases blowing past the pistons under high stress/compression in conjunction with a super slick lubricant. Or is this supposed to be a common side-effect of semi/full-synthetic oils?
    Never used them so I wouldn't know! Has anyone else shifted to synthetic oils & noticed any difference?

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    • Did I read 180KMPH with a 90+ KG payload? Woah! should definitely be a slope!

      @Tenhut: nyah it cant be your multi grade motul... especially since you must have ripped it ONLY after doing some amount of riding (which I read that you do it as a practise)...
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      • Originally posted by invincible2110 View Post
        @ deadly biker: 180 kmph with 95 kgs....dude either you have a special bike or your nick name perfectly fits the speed you touched.. lol. On a serious note i guess a gradual down slope must be helping you.
        I weigh 100kilos and as far as i remember during my 2 hr stint with the Ninja 250R some months back, seeing 180 on the speedo with a 95kg rider is well, very very hard. Untill unless, there is a lot of tail wind or a downhill stretch

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        • Originally posted by Puneet1 View Post
          @Tenhut - what if the rider is 45-50 Kgs and the road is a big downhill . will the front pop up while shifting up ? .
          Not it will not. Not without popping the clutch. In fact, I have tried it for a week to pop a wheel in second gear. I took bike till 11k rpm and slipped clutch. Still no running wheelie.

          Secondly, I personally do not feel that a person weighing 90 kg can achieve speeds of 170 kmph. I weigh 60 kg and I was doing 165 easily with around 2k rpm band remaining. Tenhut at the same time and same speed was nearing redline in top gear so doing 170 seems improbable. (May be he needs to loose his weight and height) :-)

          I hope we all are talking about speedo indicated speeds and not gps indicated speeds.

          Again this is not a question of misreading the speedo. I have done 160+ 4-5 times.
          Last edited by trustvishwas; 03-22-2010, 05:03 PM.
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          • @TENHUT:

            Power wheelie well explained.
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            • Everybody is talking about 170+ kmph and I am still hovering around at 85-90kmph (2nd run in)

              Satyen - It was nice meeting you last week. People like me need expert advice time to time from Guru's. Next target is to meet TenHut

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              • Originally posted by trustvishwas View Post
                Not it will not. Not without popping the clutch. In fact, I have tried it for a week to pop a wheel in second gear. I took bike till 11k rpm and slipped clutch. Still no running wheelie.

                Secondly, I personally do not feel that a person weighing 90 kg can achieve speeds of 170 kmph. I weigh 60 kg and I was doing 165 easily with around 2k rpm band remaining. Tenhut at the same time and same speed was nearing redline in top gear so doing 170 seems improbable. (May be he needs to loose his weight and height) :-)

                I hope we all are talking about speedo indicated speeds and not gps indicated speeds.

                Again this is not a question of misreading the speedo. I have done 160+ 4-5 times.
                Isn't it odd for 2 identical bikes running in the same gear at the same ground speed (speedo reading/not gps) to travel at such different engine speeds. There must a significant amount of slippage in the engine cylinders/clutch for that to happen! Would that be reasonable?

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                • ^^ rather thank complicating it so much, why cant u just give the credit to the speedometer which is analog and are known to over read by 10-20%, as the speed increases!!!

                  The engine, drivetrain on these bikes are designed to last quite sometime.. To compare with another high revving bike, the R15, clutch plates are/have been changed well after 30,000 kms, unless the rider was doing something else to his bike than riding it regularly and riding it fast.

                  So these factors wont really come into a bike which is brand new and has a few thousand kms on the odo...

                  The ninja is about the top speed that it can get.. but the thrill is the way it gets there.. So enjoy the thrill more than the net outcome...


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                  • Originally posted by basu_RR View Post
                    Isn't it odd for 2 identical bikes running in the same gear at the same ground speed (speedo reading/not gps) to travel at such different engine speeds. There must a significant amount of slippage in the engine cylinders/clutch for that to happen! Would that be reasonable?
                    The difference is between rider weight and height. Tenhut is significantly taller than me so even when he crouches, he is less aerodynamic than me. Also his knees stick out more than mine so the difference.
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                    • Originally posted by amitredefined View Post
                      Everybody is talking about 170+ kmph and I am still hovering around at 85-90kmph (2nd run in)

                      Satyen - It was nice meeting you last week. People like me need expert advice time to time from Guru's. Next target is to meet TenHut
                      Why not tag along for the meet this Tuesday\Wednesday! A lot of the active Pune folks would be there!
                      PS: 2nd run in is good enough time to blast the bike for some time!
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                      PowerDrift:.

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                      #Everyone errs, accept it, defending/cribbing about it only makes it worse
                      #Dont defend a manufacturer as if you work for them
                      #Write. Think. If relevant hit submit. If not hit yourself
                      #Be kind in your choice of words, you never know who would make you gulp em
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                      • Originally posted by satyenpoojary View Post
                        Why not tag along for the meet this Tuesday\Wednesday! A lot of the active Pune folks would be there!
                        PS: 2nd run in is good enough time to blast the bike for some time!
                        I would love to ... but I work late till 10-11PM everyday

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                        • Originally posted by TenHut View Post
                          I think you got a special Ninja on your hands there mate ! I aint kidding.
                          Atleast you acknowledge the fact that it might be possible not like others.thats nice.
                          Regarding oil I totally sticked to the recommended oil{ because I think kawasaki company knows much better about my babe than me so will always recommend the best}, so can't comment for the oil you used.


                          And for all- its not always necessary that what happens to anyone, must happen with everyone.Exceptional is the word you must search in dictionary.
                          And if you get to know what all exceptional things happened with my Pulsar 220 then either you will die laughing or start criticizing Bajaj.



                          Here you can check the second last pic of 21'st post in this page.
                          Its especially taken for guys who don't believe the exceptional facts
                          And it was during retardation just after I hit the top end, as the highway began to get busy.So just wait will give you the solid proof soon... only of top speed but for 95kgs you have to hug me up if you can

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                          Originally posted by invincible2110 View Post
                          @ deadly biker: 180 kmph with 95 kgs....dude either you have a special bike or your nick name perfectly fits the speed you touched.. lol. On a serious note i guess a gradual down slope must be helping you.
                          Both of them are right dude
                          And it was pure horizontal.

                          Originally posted by jd666 View Post
                          ^^ or an overoptimistic speedo...
                          you are always welcome to my place to check that overoptimism


                          Originally posted by satyenpoojary View Post
                          Did I read 180KMPH with a 90+ KG payload? Woah! should definitely be a slope!
                          No it wasn't.


                          Originally posted by Bunny View Post
                          I weigh 100kilos and as far as i remember during my 2 hr stint with the Ninja 250R some months back, seeing 180 on the speedo with a 95kg rider is well, very very hard. Untill unless, there is a lot of tail wind or a downhill stretch
                          Hey Bunny,its me Abhishek from Agra.
                          I didn't said 180, I said between 175 -180
                          And yes it was hard but it wasn't impossible.
                          Downhill stretch was not there but can't comment for tail wind because didn't stopped there and just zoooomed.


                          Originally posted by trustvishwas View Post
                          Secondly, I personally do not feel that a person weighing 90 kg can achieve speeds of 170 kmph. I weigh 60 kg and I was doing 165 easily with around 2k rpm band remaining. Tenhut at the same time and same speed was nearing redline in top gear so doing 170 seems improbable. (May be he needs to loose his weight and height) :-)

                          I hope we all are talking about speedo indicated speeds and not gps indicated speeds.

                          Again this is not a question of misreading the speedo. I have done 160+ 4-5 times.
                          The link is above bro just check it.


                          Originally posted by amitredefined View Post
                          Everybody is talking about 170+ kmph and I am still hovering around at 85-90kmph (2nd run in)
                          Just complete 2nd run in properly bro.because I did too and know I am enjoying and flying
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                          just because I am too FAST.
                          But I never rode fast,I was always normal
                          and this makes me FURIOUS.

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                          • @ Deadly Biker: Just saw the pics.. The speedo reads 167.. Good on u mate.. But i wudnt be taking pics at those speeds.. Drive safe bro..

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                            • I am gonna get a lot of flak for this but break in for the ninja 250R = 4k for the first 500 kms 6k for 800kms and from there on ride it like you stole it. If you ask me please dont bother about baby sitting the ninja till 1800kms.
                              This wont match with the owners manual though !
                              I wonder if anyone has read this : Break In Secrets--How To Break In New Motorcycle and Car Engines For More Power

                              Unbelievable and tempting but not willing to risk it.

                              A query to the ninja owners who have the frame sliders installed... Which one should i buy? I saw the Shogun Crash Kit on fatbikez website. Although it says no cut, the installation guide says that the crank case cover needs to be cut. Which frame slider can i buy which does not involve any cutting or sorts to the bike?

                              Replies will be greatly appreciated. Thanks.
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                              • @ mr deadlybiker: i only see a "166 kmph" on the speedo & i have done 165 kmph with 82 kilos on board .. & its not 170-180 kmphas mentioned in your post... show me 175kmph if not 180 on your speedo...!!

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