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Thread: Honda CBR250R Launched in India at 1.43 ex showroom Delhi

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    old CBR250RR had 4-stroke inline 4 with 45hp at 18500 rpm and that was awsome ((:

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tron05 View Post
    Never understood guys here... By just hearing the word '250cc' many guys here start saying 2L is a very reasonable price. P220 is a 220cc bike turning out 21ps. Ninja is a 250 giving 33ps. Now the major difference between them is the engine. For having a 250cc bike all you have to do is make a engine having a displacement of additional 30cc than the p220.(not comparing here.how you do it depends on the manufacturer.single cylinder.. or watever).

    P220 comes for 82k. Now add in costs for the better suspension, full fairing, discs..so on and still isnt it possible to price it below 1.5L and earn a good profit on volumes??
    So you're saying you neglect the reputation and experience of the Jap giants? Frankly i can go on for days as to why the Ninja 250R or the CBR 250R is better in every aspect compared to the 220(i'm being the stupidest guy on the planet there). But ,the detail and the tech that goes in to making every cc and BHP count is what matters. It is possible to make such good bikes for such low prices, but the profit margins will be very lean for all the R&D that has gone into designing it even if it is only 30cc more. Besides the new CBR 250R has 27 patents! How many does the 220 have? You're thinking 20? No. Don't quantify when comparing 2 companies with different backgrounds. Bajaj targets the masses crudely. As long a they sell, it's well and good for them. Honda competes on a global scale besides, so they have to price it competitively, not crudely like Bajaj (No offence meant to anyone here too.). And Honda has for ages probably had the best customer satisfaction in the world.

    P.S.: Honda makes bikes that will surely sell. Bajaj makes sure their bikes sell :-P
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    Quote Originally Posted by roshan3440 View Post
    Use the option right next to quote the plus mark ..thats the one
    Ooops. I guess not. I am stupid. Very ignorant i am. Thanks for that
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    CBU looks like an uncertainty, there will definitely be localization of parts which obviously translates into a somewhat affordable price. But yes if it IS a CBU, then Honda will have a free hand in pricing it at a premium. But I guess it may be the same mark at what the Ninja is offered at.

    Apart from that, yes the old CBR inline 4 was much better on the spec sheet, but this is a fresh new start for Honda and theres a lot of scope as these are their( 150 and 250R) new bikes. So maybe 4 years down the line, they may get equipped with v-twins or inline-4s, USD forks etc etc.. who knows! What I loved about the whole bike was the addition of C-ABS. good stuff. Now cut a great price for us Honda.
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    Lets all stop dreaming, complaining, speculating and take a moment of silence..
    a minute in your life..
    to pray the god damn bike is priced @ 1.5lac (atleast ex-showroom)!!


    EDIT: doesnt anybody have a clue about the pricing?
    Regardless, Life shall go on.

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    @yellowspunk: ^+1
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tron05 View Post
    Never understood guys here... By just hearing the word '250cc' many guys here start saying 2L is a very reasonable price. P220 is a 220cc bike turning out 21ps. Ninja is a 250 giving 33ps. Now the major difference between them is the engine. For having a 250cc bike all you have to do is make a engine having a displacement of additional 30cc than the p220.(not comparing here.how you do it depends on the manufacturer.single cylinder.. or watever).

    P220 comes for 82k. Now add in costs for the better suspension, full fairing, discs..so on and still isnt it possible to price it below 1.5L and earn a good profit on volumes??
    its not that simple just adding 30cc and increasing power from 21ps to 33ps whenever you like..
    the reason for the Ninja 250 being priced what it is , is not only because its a 250 or a Kawasaki or imported, but also on the way its been engineered. it so thats why there Japanese sports bikes are priced high compared to the indian bikes
    Just because you haven't seen it doesnt mean its impossible...expect the unexpected.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MG_Biker1806 View Post
    Bang on! For single cylinder the golden rule is 1ps per 10cc
    Lol :P

    i predicted the same in the previous thread and seems its all correct :P

    a 250cc, single cylinder, even though sporting 4 valve with complete localization must must must and definitely cost less than 1.5 L. No doubt about it. (without ABS obv)

    if less than 1.5L, this is it, this is THE BIKE for bike enthusiasts. thumbs up (all possible thumbs) for Honda.

    I will surely book 1 under following conditions:

    * CBR 150r is above 1.0L if launched
    * fazer 250 is not here by that time.

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    Basic things aint that tech filled...

    Things which are is the new is engine and C-ABS and PGM Fi...

    So i dont see any reason as why the bike cant be at around 1.50lacs (ex showroom) without compromising quality if its MADE in INDIA ???

    Its very much practical that the bike will come almost same as Mojo as on road, if its Made in India..

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    Quote Originally Posted by R-series View Post
    its not that simple just adding 30cc and increasing power from 21ps to 33ps whenever you like..
    the reason for the Ninja 250 being priced what it is , is not only because its a 250 or a Kawasaki or imported, but also on the way its been engineered. it so thats why there Japanese sports bikes are priced high compared to the indian bikes
    Dear,

    lets not compare all Japs together.

    You have a Jap selling a monoshock 150cc for 60k, and 1 selling similar bike for around 75k.

    Honda breaking up with Hero definitely means they are almost ready as a local player in India. Check their current line up and pricing. I agree we cant compare with Bajaj at all. NO
    But yes, all the premium we will pay for a 250cc, 4valve, a Honda tag etc etc, will not cost more than 1.5L. this will be insanely stupid on Honda's side if they try to keep their flagship model above 1.5L


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