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    Default Re: KTM 125 Duke launched in India at INR 1.18 Lakh (Ex-Showroom, Delhi)

    How Indian crowd reacting to this mini duke i can see why companies hesitating to launch cbr150rr, cb250rr, mslaz, mt125 etc. Lol it have usd forks, dual channel abs, liquid cooled engine, and 14hp giving tough to many existing 150 cc
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    Thumbs up Re: KTM 125 Duke launched in India at INR 1.18 Lakh (Ex-Showroom, Delhi)

    This move should provide a much needed bottom range to the KTM portfolio.. This should help increase their sales, and eventually the service and parts inflow too, which should make happy the dealers and customers both..

    The price is just about right, given the technology and the equipment level, and it might just turn out to be one of the safest bikes in and around the segment, considering ABS, and the handling and kit level.

    Although those saying that its just a 125 are not wrong, I believe it was a relatively easy launch because 125's were already being made at Chakan...
    And a 14 bhp Duke might feel the need to... you know, rev really high at our orange days and group rides... I guess.


    Some may argue that the 390 owners have a reason to complain, considering the brand value, but I believe KTM is still premium. Even 1.4L segment is not too economical..
    As a Duke 390 owner, I would say, Well done KTM, awesome job, take the next step, you can do it, go ahead with the 790 now! For most of us, this launch is not that relevant for now.


    Now, I just hope Kawasaki too ends up launching their bottom ranger... They need it even more than KTM does, for now...

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    Default Re: KTM 125 Duke launched in India at INR 1.18 Lakh (Ex-Showroom, Delhi)

    Quote Originally Posted by Bismaya View Post
    Too much weight for a 125cc mill. And why does it need a 6 speed transmission anyway? I don't think it'll even be marketed as a highway vehicle.
    every bike doesn't have to be highway worthy. this is a powerful (for it's capacity)125cc mill, that is going to be nippy to ride around town. the target audience seems to be the college kids.

    Quote Originally Posted by Samarth 619 View Post
    This move should provide a much needed bottom range to the KTM portfolio.. This should help increase their sales, and eventually the service and parts inflow too, which should make happy the dealers and customers both..

    The price is just about right, given the technology and the equipment level, and it might just turn out to be one of the safest bikes in and around the segment, considering ABS, and the handling and kit level..
    Correct.. with the prices of the 200 having increased (in fact when the 200 was launched it was around 1.35 otr), ktm has introduced a more 'affordable' entry in to the ktm family. they have created a market for themselves and I too think this is a good move.
    Bajaj has always been conscious of the spending power of the middle class and their pricing trends reflect what a person might spend on a motorcycle. If you see, now buying a 1 Lakh motorcycle has become common even for a college student (i.e. parents paying for it) and so the 125's pricing is a bit premium and would attract some of these crowd who maybe don't want to spend an extra 40k for the 200.
    And the working folks in their mid 20's and older wouldn't mind paying out of their pocket for say a 390 over a couple of years emi's.

    Good that they bought in the old model to keep the price down.

    Coming to the service and parts availability, don't get your hopes too high. Quality of service i feel will never be good at most svc's irrespective of brand, their economics and lack of training just don't let that happen. And it's been 6 yrs now and they have good sales or rather a good requirement of parts at svc but still sometimes you have to wait for even basic parts. Last week I wanted to get rear brake pads, and was told that its out of stock and 3 bikes were already waiting for it since 3 days! I have a good rapport with them and so over chit chat i get to understand their situation and the works. Was told to get the p220 pads, which are the same for the rear (And so are the cbr250 pads). I just collect some basic parts over time and use them as required.
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    Default Re: KTM 125 Duke launched in India at INR 1.18 Lakh (Ex-Showroom, Delhi)

    Quote Originally Posted by kiran2508 View Post
    For the kind of kit it offers, it's a decently priced I'd say!
    Yes it's a 125cc bike but which other 125cc offers the below features please elaborate?

    1)43mm USD
    2)300mm front disc with ABS, 230mm rear disc
    3)Radiator with liquid cooling
    4)Trellis frame with aluminum machined swing arm
    5)6 speed gear box
    6)Full LED instrument cluster with loads of info
    7)Wide 150/60 R, 110/70 F tubeless tyres (where in most 125cc bikes are having tiny tubed tyres)
    8)45T rear sprocket 520 pitch
    9)4 valve DOHC
    10)More powerful having more horsepower than the so called 150cc-160cc bikes(cough.. cough.. FZv2.0, Gixxer, Pulsar), cc doesn't matter as you see!

    One has to understand that this is premium 125cc bike and not compare the price with other commuter 125cc bikes because of the above mentioned components which itself costs so much money!

    Just like how Vespa/Aprilla 125cc/150cc is considered as premium scooters which costs over 1L and how one doesn't to compare them with then commuter Activa 125, Jupiter, Access, Ntorq costing around 60-70K etc etc.

    Yes, new 390 design would have made wonders but the elder brother Duke 200 doesn't get the new 390 design, so how can lower bike than the 200 get a better design, so yes I was not expecting that design from Day 1 either.

    All in all, this is a hate it or like it bike based on the buyer with no inbetween!
    Well said!!!
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    Default Re: KTM 125 Duke launched in India at INR 1.18 Lakh (Ex-Showroom, Delhi)

    Good addition but it doesn't make sense for new buyer, from weight, power and price perspective one can simply go for Duke 200.

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    Default Re: KTM 125 Duke launched in India at INR 1.18 Lakh (Ex-Showroom, Delhi)

    Quote Originally Posted by sparky View Post
    Good addition but it doesn't make sense for new buyer, from weight, power and price perspective one can simply go for Duke 200.
    apparently it does, just got back from the ktm showroom and met two guys who showed up inquiring about the 125's pricing. the 200 is now almost 1.8L here in hyderabad and the 125 is going to be 1.4L -- a 40k might be significant some a certain category of folks (e.g. kids who want a ktm, but parents forking the bill)
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    Default Re: KTM 125 Duke launched in India at INR 1.18 Lakh (Ex-Showroom, Delhi)

    Quote Originally Posted by sparky View Post
    Good addition but it doesn't make sense for new buyer, from weight, power and price perspective one can simply go for Duke 200.
    Quote Originally Posted by s1d View Post
    apparently it does, just got back from the ktm showroom and met two guys who showed up inquiring about the 125's pricing. the 200 is now almost 1.8L here in hyderabad and the 125 is going to be 1.4L -- a 40k might be significant some a certain category of folks (e.g. kids who want a ktm, but parents forking the bill)
    Exactly, here in Bangalore being the highest with road tax, Duke 125 is 1.42L and Duke 200 is 1.98L both ABS, difference is 42K in ex-showroom for model and on-road difference coming upto nearly 55-60K with the new 5years insurance thinge.

    So for a middle class family 60K is big money, nearly equal to a brand new Activa, Scooty, CT100 money! And moreover a kid just passed out of 12th who has learnt driving in dad's Splendor, the Duke 200 is still serious powerful bike with 25hp to start as a 1st bike and scary power if you are a noob rider.

    125 Duke being 15hp, is easy to tame safely as 1st bike with ABS and looks funky too for college going kid compared to other plain looking 125/150cc bikes at the same time being light on wallet for fuel!

    In comparsion the Gixxer ABS is 1.15L on-road here, has less horsepower than the Duke 125 inspite 155cc, missing so many high-end components as already mentioned in earlier post (USD, 4 valve DOHC, 6 speed etc etc etc.) and costs only approx 25K less than the baby Duke

    So logically 25k money extra is well spent for all the extra fancy goodies you get with KTM, and that kid will buy the baby Duke.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kiran2508 View Post
    Exactly, here in Bangalore being the highest with road tax, Duke 125 is 1.42L and Duke 200 is 1.98L both ABS, difference is 42K in ex-showroom for model and on-road difference coming upto nearly 55-60K with the new 5years insurance thinge.

    So for a middle class family 60K is big money, nearly equal to a brand new Activa, Scooty, CT100 money! And moreover a kid just passed out of 12th who has learnt driving in dad's Splendor, the Duke 200 is still serious powerful bike with 25hp to start as a 1st bike and scary power if you are a noob rider.

    125 Duke being 15hp, is easy to tame safely as 1st bike with ABS and looks funky too for college going kid compared to other plain looking 125/150cc bikes at the same time being light on wallet for fuel!

    In comparsion the Gixxer ABS is 1.15L on-road here, has less horsepower than the Duke 125 inspite 155cc, missing so many high-end components as already mentioned in earlier post (USD, 4 valve DOHC, 6 speed etc etc etc.) and costs only approx 25K less than the baby Duke

    So logically 25k money extra is well spent for all the extra fancy goodies you get with KTM, and that kid will buy the baby Duke.
    Well said!!!!

    My friends here say its too much for a 125ccer and starts to say people can go for Bullet for that money. I was like WTH!!!
    So I had to do a lecture about this bike and what a piece of crap those metals are. And they are like "iska mileage kum hoga" ..... I stopped right there .
    Some just cannot understand the value of a well equipped machine over a VFM machine sadly.
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    Default Re: KTM 125 Duke launched in India at INR 1.18 Lakh (Ex-Showroom, Delhi)

    Quote Originally Posted by kiran2508 View Post
    Exactly, here in Bangalore being the highest with road tax, Duke 125 is 1.42L and Duke 200 is 1.98L both ABS, difference is 42K in ex-showroom for model and on-road difference coming upto nearly 55-60K with the new 5years insurance thinge.

    So for a middle class family 60K is big money, nearly equal to a brand new Activa, Scooty, CT100 money! And moreover a kid just passed out of 12th who has learnt driving in dad's Splendor, the Duke 200 is still serious powerful bike with 25hp to start as a 1st bike and scary power if you are a noob rider.

    125 Duke being 15hp, is easy to tame safely as 1st bike with ABS and looks funky too for college going kid compared to other plain looking 125/150cc bikes at the same time being light on wallet for fuel!

    In comparsion the Gixxer ABS is 1.15L on-road here, has less horsepower than the Duke 125 inspite 155cc, missing so many high-end components as already mentioned in earlier post (USD, 4 valve DOHC, 6 speed etc etc etc.) and costs only approx 25K less than the baby Duke

    So logically 25k money extra is well spent for all the extra fancy goodies you get with KTM, and that kid will buy the baby Duke.
    Rode a friend's Duke 200 and the power delivery was scary. The precise reason I upgraded to a Dominar from a scoot.
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    Default Re: KTM 125 Duke launched in India at INR 1.18 Lakh (Ex-Showroom, Delhi)

    Fun fact older pulsar 135ls has almost same hp & has a weight of 121kgs wet !! Lol
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