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    Default Is the deadline for adoption of electric two and three-wheelers unrealistic?

    While the government is planning to switch all the two-wheelers and three-wheelers to electric in the next few years, the manufacturers do not seem to be very thrilled. The government is said to be thinking of setting a 2023 deadline for three-wheelers and 2025 for all two-wheelers up to 150cc engine capacity.
    Manufacturers have been pointing out that the industry is already reeling from being forced to accept an accelerated timeline for tighter emission norms. The new norms will be enforced next year. This has also induced more expenses, pertaining to redevelopment, for manufacturers.

    Mr Venu Srinivasan, Chairman, TVS Motor Company Limited said, “Automakers everywhere are supportive of the overall goal of introducing electric vehicles (EV) and easing consumers into electric mobility. As a result, we have been doing serious development work to ensure we can offer a mass-market EV product that delivers on safety and high performance. This is necessary to co-opt consumers into making a switch, so it’s driven by consumer willingness and, therefore, adopted easily and widely. The supporting infrastructure for charging also needs to be as robust as conventional fuel options.

    The auto industry globally is still a long way away from all of this, as is India. To force an unrealistic deadline for mass adoption of electric two and three-wheelers, will not just create consumer discontent, it risks derailing auto-manufacturing in India that supports 4 million jobs. We need gradual and seamless adoption of EVs to avoid such collateral damage and ensure our technology-driven disruption is positive and lasting.”

    Bajaj Auto has also stated that the industry does not have any meaningful experience with electric vehicle (EV) technology to support a transition of this scale within such a short deadline. Experts have cited the lack of charging and other infrastructure that’s needed to ensure vehicles won’t run out of juice. They pointed to long queues for compressed natural gas, a clean-burning fuel used by cabs and auto-rickshaws.
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    Thumbs up Re: Is the deadline for adoption of electric two and three-wheelers unrealistic?

    I think its unrealistic. 2028-30 should be the ideal target.

    At first, not every customer perceives electric vehicle as reliable workhorse, specially not with its dismayal range and charging times.
    Out of the big, commonly known manufacturers, only TVS has shown the guts to introduce a mass market electric vehicle which by the way is now far discontinued... It was an electric version of their famous Scooty, few years back, which topped at some 40 kmph with 33~NM torque.

    This is how the change happens:-

    1. First, a trend is observed and parts are made. Then, a product is introduced as a "Risk" by a small manufacturer (like Ather).
    2. Then a big manufacturer jumps in, and manages the initial issues with the product, on an obviously large scale. The industry watches and learns on...
    3. Then one or two more jump in. This is the time when the mass market, starts to take notice... *starts*
    4. Eventually, people will accept but slowly. Naysayers will go down slowly.

    This process will not happen in 3 years. If we still hurry, we will observe half hearted efforts and half tested products by manufacturers..

    And a sudden increase in the price of second hand fuel-based vehicles. The second hand market might even see Activa collecting more money, than a new vehicle. Because people's thinking will be an obstacle.
    The marketing team of every company will have to work overtime!

    Tesla's success is inspiring, but it doesn't mean much for the common commute-rider, who might not even watch international news.
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    I feel it is an aggressive target to aim for and thats good. We need to be aggressive about helping the environment. Cutting down vehicular emission is a worthy goal and spurring the auto industry on to find solutions is fair and necessary. However I feel the consumer must not be left in the lurch if technology isn't ready. So blanket bans are not the best idea. A better way could be subsidies or tax rebates on EVs that can be gradually phased out as the market matures. I would prefer an intelligent strategy from the Govt. But I certainly don't want to leave the auto industry to follow its own timetable without any pressure.
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    Quote Originally Posted by aamaadmi View Post
    I feel it is an aggressive target to aim for and thats good. We need to be aggressive about helping the environment. Cutting down vehicular emission is a worthy goal and spurring the auto industry on to find solutions is fair and necessary. However I feel the consumer must not be left in the lurch if technology isn't ready. So blanket bans are not the best idea. A better way could be subsidies or tax rebates on EVs that can be gradually phased out as the market matures. I would prefer an intelligent strategy from the Govt. But I certainly don't want to leave the auto industry to follow its own timetable without any pressure.
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    Yes it's unrealistic but the manufacturers will at least take note of it and work accordingly. I am getting a feeling that the deadline will get extended. Also along with 2 and 3 wheelers, state and city transport ( buses ) should go electric as they are the major fuel consumers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainR View Post
    Yes it's unrealistic but the manufacturers will at least take note of it and work accordingly. I am getting a feeling that the deadline will get extended. Also along with 2 and 3 wheelers, state and city transport ( buses ) should go electric as they are the major fuel consumers.
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    First of all, government should stop electricity production by using coal & diesel.
    70% of the electricity produced in india are by thermal power plants.

    I don't know the logic behind this decision.
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    Here we all have a lot brands in electrical car and bikes but we don't have charging stations even in metro cities in India. Once we charge our electrical vehicle it takes about 6 hours for charging and run a km of 120 to 140 at maximum. If you are prefering a long drive what will we do, so we cannot go long trips with the electric vehicles.

    So we want charging station at stone throw distance and fast charges that charge with in a hour. I heard a company in bangalore is going launch this electric vehicle charging stations overall in bangalore as oneplug and this will be arevolutionary change in the field of electric vehicle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HariVox View Post
    First of all, government should stop electricity production by using coal & diesel.
    70% of the electricity produced in india are by thermal power plants.

    I don't know the logic behind this decision.
    Indeed, we dont have nuclear power. Converting to Electric means India will have burn more fossil fuel for electricity generation to power these EVs.

    The Govt. simply wants to change the source of pollution so that it doesnt look as bad in Global media. Do they think people are stupid?
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    Quote Originally Posted by HariVox View Post
    First of all, government should stop electricity production by using coal & diesel.
    70% of the electricity produced in india are by thermal power plants.

    I don't know the logic behind this decision.
    The only logical explanation is that the pollution will "temporarily" move away from the busy cities to remote, more green locations, thus giving our government a breathing space for now...

    While touring on Karizma ZMR, I've seen the Gandhinagar Thermal PP, 2 of its 3 giant chimneys emitting white smoke.
    But honestly, there was so much greenery around, that the air didn't feel polluted even near it.

    Of course, this is just a temporary escape. One day the country at large might end up being polluted heavily.. Not to mention, supply of coal, it isn't unlimited, right?
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