Since '02 xBhp is different things to different people. From a close knit national community of bikers to India's only motorcycling lifestyle magazine and a place to make like minded biker friends. We have one common religion - Bikeism.

T-shirt
Magazine
Castrol Power 1

All the gear all the time (ATGATT).

Our Partners



User Tag List

Page 1 of 7 12345 ... LastLast
Results 1 to 10 of 64
Like Tree2Likes

Thread: Learn more about a bike

  1. #1
    Addicted
    Join Date
    Oct 2008
    Location
    Bangalore
    Posts
    59
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)

    Default Learn more about a bike

    Hi

    I would really love to know more about my bike, and I have been trying to for some time, but i have not been very successful

    I dont even know where to start.

    I dont want to know about mods and stuff, what I would like to know is what goes into making one bike better than the next. What aspects make a difference to cornering and braking, how does changing the angle of the fork by 1 degree affect the bike's performance... and everything else that I can...

    I know all this would probably be part of an automobile engg course, but i dont have the time to join one of those

    If someone could help me out, or show me the ropes (I am in Pune, free on weekends), it would be great!!

    Assume that i know nothing, except to ride decently. (By that i mean that i dont race on crowded roads, and my only accident has been because of someone else's mistake )

    If such a thread already exists, my apologies, and please redirect me

    Any help would be appreciated!
    Which of my bike rides is my favorite? The one Im going to take tomorrow.


    My website: www.samudraNB.com

  2. #2
    Rusted ken cool's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2005
    Location
    New Delhi
    Posts
    4,718
    Mentioned
    4 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)

    Default

    Topic Approved

    Quite a vast subject. But approved nonetheless. Can be useful and interesting in the scope of the forum.
    The Wheel was a great invention; Two Wheels with a Motor in between was even better!


    BMW Motorrad Days 2011

    Xbhp's Indo-French Kashmir-Ladakh Tour

  3. #3
    Moderator Samarth 619's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2008
    Location
    Rajasthan
    Posts
    4,696
    Blog Entries
    4
    Mentioned
    37 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)

    Default

    Ok, Let's start ... I don't know exact meaning of what you said but let's try ...

    Wheelbase: Longer results in better high speed stability, but longer turning radius.
    Shorter results in short turning radius, ideal for city, but bike seems unstable high at speeds.
    For a good sportsbike, the wheelbase should be short ... but swingarm should be long!

    Is this an example of what you want??

  4. #4
    Rusted insanebiker's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2008
    Location
    India
    Posts
    1,246
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Samarth 619 View Post
    For a good sportsbike, the wheelbase should be short ... but swingarm should be long!
    I fail to see any logic here. The length of the swingarm decides the wheelbase largely.
    When everything comes ur way, u r in the wrong way ;)


  5. #5
    Addicted
    Join Date
    Oct 2008
    Location
    Bangalore
    Posts
    59
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)

    Default

    What is a swingarm??

    Kidding

    Quote Originally Posted by Samarth 619 View Post
    Ok, Let's start ... I don't know exact meaning of what you said but let's try ...

    Wheelbase: Longer results in better high speed stability, but longer turning radius.
    Shorter results in short turning radius, ideal for city, but bike seems unstable high at speeds.
    For a good sportsbike, the wheelbase should be short ... but swingarm should be long!

    Is this an example of what you want??
    Quote Originally Posted by insanebiker View Post
    I fail to see any logic here. The length of the swingarm decides the wheelbase largely.
    Yes, this is exactly the kind of information that I am looking for, but also, the "WHY"s... like insanebiker said... what is the logic behind the correlation of the length of the swingarm --> "good sports bike"??

    Sportsbikes --> shorter wheel base --> doesnt that mean less stability at higher speeds??

    I know the scope of this will be vast, but if we could get some experienced members to contribute, it could be a wealth of knowledge!
    Which of my bike rides is my favorite? The one Im going to take tomorrow.


    My website: www.samudraNB.com

  6. #6
    Moderator Samarth 619's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2008
    Location
    Rajasthan
    Posts
    4,696
    Blog Entries
    4
    Mentioned
    37 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by samudranb View Post
    What is a swingarm??

    Kidding





    Yes, this is exactly the kind of information that I am looking for, but also, the "WHY"s... like insanebiker said... what is the logic behind the correlation of the length of the swingarm --> "good sports bike"??

    Sportsbikes --> shorter wheel base --> doesnt that mean less stability at higher speeds??

    I know the scope of this will be vast, but if we could get some experienced members to contribute, it could be a wealth of knowledge!
    Swingarm is a smaller component. It starts from the point it is attached to chassis via a circular joint, which allows for movement up & down (due to suspension).. and It ends nearly where the rear wheel is attached.

    Wheelbase is only a measure of distance between the tyre "ground contact" points... It is even affected by Rake & Trial Setup, engine block, etc... Of course, Swingarm is an "affecting factor" among other factors.


    PS: I read this statement in Bike India's issues, can't remember which one? But, it was a Bike UK Article... I "think", the larger wheelbase does add stability, simply because it allows more rear wheel wobbling (don't know the ideal word), without disturbing the chassis due to its length... Isn't it?

  7. #7
    Rusted Joel's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2004
    Location
    Bangalore
    Posts
    1,863
    Mentioned
    14 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Samarth 619 View Post
    I "think", the larger wheelbase does add stability, simply because it allows more rear wheel wobbling (don't know the ideal word), without disturbing the chassis due to its length... Isn't it?
    What are you saying man?
    Why would one favour a wobble to aid stability? Your logic of an SBK having a short wheelbase for stability but with a shorter swingarm is another stunner of a logic to me. Atleast for once read wht you have typed, apart from the usual google.com gyaan you tend to collect and interpret in your own words. The disaster begins there!
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
    joel@raceconcepts.in

  8. #8
    Rusted pranay's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2003
    Location
    Bangalore, Karnataka, India.
    Posts
    1,807
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Samarth 619 View Post
    PS: I read this statement in Bike India's issues, can't remember which one? But, it was a Bike UK Article... I "think", the larger wheelbase does add stability, simply because it allows more rear wheel wobbling (don't know the ideal word), without disturbing the chassis due to its length... Isn't it?
    Larger wheelbase adds stability in high speed. It doesn't achieve this via rear wheel wobbling as you said though. A longer wheelbase will make the tail of your vehicle more stable in high speed situations.

    Swingarm of the bike will, generally, effect the handling of the bike under acceleration, braking, cornering.

    There are so many permuations and combinations possible depending on what you are looking for in a bike, so it is very difficult to say what is ideal. eg:- A drag bike would not want its front end to lift, so they would have an extended swingarm.
    DoN\'t LivE tO DiE, dIe tO LiVe

  9. #9
    Rusted akshaye11's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2008
    Location
    jaipur
    Posts
    356
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)

    Default

    Its all messed up guys please can you all explain it from begining some one is saying a longweelbase ????? and someone is saying small one ???
    life starts at 0 bhp and ends with xbhp

  10. #10
    Rusted beruoist's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2009
    Location
    NA
    Posts
    1,766
    Mentioned
    29 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)

    Default

    Very useful thread.

    But i think..Instead of proving anyone wrong,everyone should try to correct the gyaan,provide some inputs for the stuff which somebody has wrongly interpreted in here.

    So the best thing will be to provide the correct information about the basic terms of the bikes,with little bit debate..and a detailed conclusion in the end.

    I have one question.

    How does an Exhaust adds in the performance.with the various varaints in the Exhaust technology,Exhaust size etc.How does it works.
    Also is it like a type of exhaust should belong to a type of bike(superbike,dirt bike..this classification)

    Guys please provide your inputs,your expirience.I have already googled all this stuff.
    Peace
    Beruoist
    Last edited by beruoist; 06-25-2009 at 03:12 PM.

Page 1 of 7 12345 ... LastLast

Similar Threads

  1. Replies: 272
    Last Post: 1 Day Ago, 11:16 PM
  2. When will people learn
    By Ricci in forum Coffee Lounge:Off Topic
    Replies: 29
    Last Post: 10-29-2004, 04:25 AM

Tags for this Thread

Bookmarks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •