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    Default Re: Tyre suggestion for Kawa ER6N

    Quote Originally Posted by vishakrs View Post
    These are the technical details of the tyre I had mentioned earlier and reasons why I went for the same.

    Michelin Pilot Street Radial

    Rear Tyre - 150/60 R17 66H
    H - 210 KMPH SPEED RATING
    66 - Load Rating 300 KGS

    Front Tyre - 110/70 R17 54H
    H - 210 KMPH SPEED RATING
    54 - Load Rating 212 KGS

    Ninja 650R can cruise at a maximum speed of 200kmph (May be more on a race track with a really long straight stretch of road) at least in India I don't think it would be sane to ride at these speeds. Secondly with the weak front floating calipers it is not smart to ride ninja 650 (er6f or er6n) at high speeds. Not to mention the rear brake character. Load rating of these tyres are also good enough for this bike. Also these tyres are better resistant to punctures compared to the Pirelli Diabolo Corsa and the expensive likes. Not to mention the life of the expensive tyres with respect to Indian road conditions. Previous Diablo Corsas lasted for 8000 kms before it started wearing out in the middle and not to mention poor puncture resistance.

    Note: For my kind of person who does not ride in the 200kmph speed range or track this tyre suits in my opinion

    Also Ninja 650 or ER6N, in my opinion does not deserve a ZR rating or W rating tyre (Speed rating 270kmph - 300kmph). Ninja 650 is never capable of such speeds.
    Speed rating is simply not for what speeds the bike can do. It about the tyre being able to dissipate that much amount of heat when run at that speed. India is anyways hotter than most of the European countries and US. So the tyres need to deal with higher temps and harsher conditions.
    Manufacturers perform multiple testing to arrive at the speed rating for a particular model.

    Someone feeling that a bike doesn't deserve a certain speed rating does not mean anything as they have not tested it under any condition to arrive at that result.
    Its your life and your bike. Run it the way you feel best.

    With great power comes great responsibility. Its one thing to buy as superbike/big bike. Its another thing to maintain her the way it's supposed to be.

    Good luck and happy riding!!
    Last edited by hellgate; 10-10-2019 at 12:28 PM.
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    Default Re: Tyre suggestion for Kawa ER6N

    I understand your point hellgate and safety concern you have raised. Thank you. It is always better to play safe.

    I looked at vehicle capabilities, performance envelope with respect to Indian riding conditions and tried to figure out the best possible match from multiple factors which includes things like puncture resistance, economy etc.

    For instance we see that bikes like YAMAHA FZ, SUZUKI GIXXER 150 etc. come equipped with 140 section tyre. The duke 125 comes with 150 section tyre. As you know these bikes just make power less than 15 bhp and these tyres are definitely a over kill. At times marketing team plays a hand in all these decision making to attract buyers by posing them as big bikes.

    Apart from these the rear suspension of ninja 650 and er6n is very poorly damped. This is one of the reasons why it gives a bouncy ride on highways which is worsened by 160/60 tyre (adds up to the bouncy nature) and due to the weight adds up to this (the more the moving mass the more the bouncy nature).

    This can be resolved by 2 ways.

    1. Increase the damping of the rear suspension (Rebound only can be adjusted, Damping cannot be with the case of stock suspension). Hence we need to find a better suspension.
    2. Reduce the reciprocating / moving mass (Switching for a lighter tyre with less side wall height / lower profile).

    I am not an expert but trying to explore options.

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    Default Re: Tyre suggestion for Kawa ER6N

    I am at a loss of words.
    If someone compares the cross section of FZ with a big bike, I dont think that is fair at all.
    With all the technicalities that you have introduced, you forgot the fact that N650 does not fall into commuter/premium commuter segment. Its something way beyond that.
    Why do you think some bikes have wider tyres than others? R15 has 130 but FZ 140. Do you have the answer for that?
    Manufacturers simply dont decide to plonk in a certain tyre size on a bike. Its based on multiple factors.
    Also putting in a wide tyre does not mean it matches the ratings of superbike tyres.
    Even for Kawasaki, would they have not save money by simply putting on 180/55 in the rear as they use the same in Z800/900?
    I don't think we are going anywhere with this discussion.

    As I said, it's your life and ride. Do what you best feel with it without endangering life of others.
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