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    Yes, you can definitely go for SS. I've been using it for 4 and a half months and have gone on short tours as well. It's very comfortable and also the SMOOTHEST 125 cc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hage bhai View Post
    what is the first bike i should get to begin with,budget is around 65k and i plan to use it over long SOLO tours(say 2000km+ and above).i am 5'8" and 55kg.
    i have zeroed down to.-
    -discover 125 ST
    -pulsar 135 LS
    -cbf stunner
    -imposter..err i mean ignitor

    desirability factors(in decreasing order)-
    1.comfort
    2.some more comfort as these distances are long
    3.some highway manners (i know its none are RE,but among the above choices at least)
    4.reliability
    5.economy
    6.come to think of it,add some more comfort

    any expert inputs will also be appreciated but don't say anything about that budget.that's all i have for my first bike..
    Well, as you have shortlisted 4 bikes, First lets start with the Discover 125cc ST.
    Bajaj has taken technology one step forward with the two new discovers i;e 100 T & 125 ST.
    The discover 125 ST is a very practical yet one among the best 125's of india today.
    I say it is a leader among the commuter segment, dont know how its sales are going to perform though. Comfort is the biggest essence of the Discover 125 ST. Other big advantage of Discover 125 ST, 5 speed gearbox, a 4 Valve engine, Better power + Better Mileage & churns out 12.8 BHP of power which even enough for a beginner on highway because i heard that its Company claimed top speed is around 110 Kmph, the tyres are not the best in segment, skinny ones. Coming to its Quality, never mind Bajaj's bikes are not that greatly built, infact they are built for Value for money purpose, they always serve you the best in the price which you have paid. They are not built to Last long,But comparatively speaking to other companies like Yamaha or Honda, Bajaj's bikes are not the Best in quality, but good enough to serve, maintain them well, and they are going to last.
    The next machine here is Pulsar 135 LS, Technically again its powered by same features. Great bike to ride in city, 13+ Bhp is enough here too to strike highways for a newbie. Coming to its looks, the looks are not that great i;e the bike is skinny. The engine is refined, carries some stylish features such as split seat, grabs & a clip on handle (personally i dont like these stuff tried on a commuter motorcycle though) they look good and mark a massive appeal. In clear words, the Pulsar 135 is a little Pulsar 150 & machine for a person to choose between Pulsar 150 & a Discover 125 ST, coming to comfort, this bike is not that comfortable on Highways because of a different seating posture rather than a commuter motorcycle.
    Reliability of Pulsar 135 is same as i mentioned, do not expect them to be the only best. Good enough in terms of reliability.
    The third & fourth bikes, as mentioned are Stunner & Ignitor. As these are two same bikes sold with a Different badge, nothing much here to compare them.
    As seen, the Stunner/ Ignitor are well built motorcycles, The engine is very responsive, refined, both of these engines are same & deliver 11 Bhp of power - 5 speed gearbox. Performance is fair.
    Their looks are identical, features are almost same. But these motorcycles miss out an Engine kill switch which might be a problem for some who are used to an engine kill switch. These two bikes take the rider to a sporty riding feel as these are sporty looking & make the rider lean a bit. So comfort is not so good here. But one thing you will love in these two motorcycles is the engine refinement, the way the power is delivered smoothly. Coming to city riding, these bikes are good enough, but as you have mentioned, comfort is most important here, the Discover ST is the best option here. The resale figures of Bajaj's motorcycles are not great, the same case with Ignitor & stunner too, infact slightly better resale than Bajaj.
    Coming to the end of comparo, here is a bike which also is of a lower maintenance than the other three, and most powerful & fuel efficient of all, The Discover 125ST - Go for Discover 125 ST. The Best & practical motorcycle of all three. Most Fuel Efficient, Most Powerful, Most Comfortable, Comparatively Low on Maintenance.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hage bhai View Post
    i did think about it,but for over 2000 km distance FE is a factor,and power rise is not again very substantial so i am thinking about the disco
    The SS125 will offer atleast 50-55 kmpl on highway rides at 80km/h. The Disco is new technology and a very good bike, but it still feels smaller and less comfortable compared to the SS125. You can test-ride both and compare. Stay away from the Honda and it's clone - they are no good above 70km/h.

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    are ss-125 and for that matter sz-r more comfortable than to dicover?

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    Quote Originally Posted by hage bhai View Post
    are ss-125 and for that matter sz-r more comfortable than to dicover?

    "Comfort" is completely subjective. I find a R15 extremely uncomfortable but there are thousands who find it comfy enough for long tours. You can be the best judge here - take a decision after test-riding both.
    But yes, if you are 5'8" or taller, you'll find the ergonomics of the SS more comfortable than the Discover.

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    I'd like to pitch in with actual experiences. I ride a lot with friends and many of them are in the 125cc class as I myself used to tour on a 110cc(honda twister). Someone here said that the stunner is no good over 70kmph. I have experiences that contradict that statement. My friends runs a stunner on a k&n filter and a michelin pilot sporty tube rear tyre(110/90). Very stable at even 90-95kmph, but also pretty strainer. Can do 70-80kmph continuously for atleast 75km. It only has slightly rearset footpegs. The seating is pretty much non-aggressive and comfortable. Seeing that the ignitor is similar, I'd say they're bound to be same in performance. I would vouch for both the machines. But why go for these two when you have much better things up for grabs at cheaper rate? :P

    Another friend of mine uses the gladiator. This is the version before the ss125. Basically the same bike. Different name. He bought it second hand at 30k. It had done close to 15k km. He just got new tires(MRF zapper fs-70/90 in the front, and another zapper 90 section for the rear) and a stock air filter as it was due for replacement. It still returns 50kmpl on an average. He uses it for touring mostly. We have done trips to all terrains on the vehicle(ghat sections, river side, off road, highway; you name it, we've been there). Our longest was a 600km trip to kolli hills and back in the same day. The bike was marvelous on the trip. I myself rode it for close to 200km since he wanted to ride my rtr. Very smooth. Like the disco, it too has a 5 speed gearbox. Sexy vehicle. I really liked it. Very comfortable, good feel, and can do decent highway(we maintained an average of 75kmph on the trip doing 90kmph for half hour and 60-65 for 15 minutes. Only downside is the power on the vehicle. I really wish it had more juice.

    Again, I stress, please consider a 150cc vehicle. No matter how much I rode and liked the ss125, I felt a sort of relief riding my RTR again. Even though I have much more aggressive stance on the RTR, I tire out lesser on it, only because my bike tires out lesser doing a constant 90kmph for hours together. They say a bike is only as good as the rider, or something to that effect. I seriously think both depend on each other. You cant push a bike to do something it shouldn't do, just the way you wouldn't do something you dont think you're capable of.
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    ok what 150 would you all suggest?
    this is a category i have no clue about as it is the most flooded segement,suggest a bike that would be good for long tour.now add a new priority word to comfort-torque.max budget 70-80k
    I WILL BE DOING A SOLO RIDE.
    dont say 150 yamaha or cbr 150r now,i am already going overboard
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    Quote Originally Posted by hage bhai View Post
    ok what 150 would you all suggest?
    this is a category i have no clue about as it is the most flooded segement,suggest a bike that would be good for long tour.now add a new priority word to comfort-torque.max budget 70-80k
    I WILL BE DOING A SOLO RIDE.
    dont say 150 yamaha or cbr 150r now,i am already going overboard
    Honda unicorn is the most comfortable 150cc I ever rode.Excellent handling,good weight for touring.
    Consider CBZ extreme also,cheaper spares.
    Apache 160,fun to ride,but not a capable tourer with vibes,clip ons.
    "Vibes transmitted from crank shaft to frame, then through the bearings of the head stock and into the stem where it meets the triple clamp and into the clip-ons where it is greeted with great pleasure by my hands"-ratfighter mod rtr

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    Quote Originally Posted by hage bhai View Post
    ok what 150 would you all suggest?
    this is a category i have no clue about as it is the most flooded segement,suggest a bike that would be good for long tour.now add a new priority word to comfort-torque.max budget 70-80k
    I WILL BE DOING A SOLO RIDE.
    dont say 150 yamaha or cbr 150r now,i am already going overboard
    Honda Unicorn does the job well , a decent yet very practical 150cc bike.
    If you want to add some more style , go for the Hero Hunk.
    Last edited by Touseef Ahmed Mohammed; 03-27-2013 at 11:21 PM.

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