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    Default Re: A beginnerís guide to buying a bike, by a beginner.

    Quote Originally Posted by Saurabh Umadikar View Post
    I have a Suzuki ASC at my place, C.G Suzuki the people there are quite interested to sell the bike unlike the Bajaj ASC where I myself had to enquire about the bike and they were least interested to sell the P200NS instead they were pushing me more towards the P150.
    I had read that Suzuki Customer Service is really good if any SVC is not helping you only a complaint on their website is enough for that SVC to be well enough next time.
    If 35kmpl is OK for you then don't think much about it and go for P200NS.

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    at last the only concern is pillion comfort...

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    Default Re: A beginnerís guide to buying a bike, by a beginner.

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry J View Post
    at last the only concern is pillion comfort...
    Don't worry it will be equal for both the bikes.
    So in just 10k over Gixxer you will be getting
    Liquid cooling
    Rear Disc, Bigger front Disc(than Gixxer)
    Clip ons
    Better Headlights
    Bullet proof Engine which is now tried and tested.
    Lastly 3 spark plugs.

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    Default Re: A beginnerís guide to buying a bike, by a beginner.

    Quote Originally Posted by Saurabh Umadikar View Post
    I too was in the same dilemma bro, left out P200NS MAINLY due to its mileage of 35kmpl and its Fit and finish(every P200NS I see on the road make a lot of krr-krr noise as if all its screws got loose, believe me its Damn irritating).Though P200NS is a great VFM though I have left it still I get butterflies in my stomach when I see it in my college's parking lot.
    I didn't get a chance of being a pillion on both the bikes . As got a TD barely of 4kms.
    I heard that NS200 has stiffer suspension(among the Pulsars) didn't heard anything like that for the Gixxers suspension setup.
    Both will be equally good in the city.
    P.S: The P200NS don't have rubber claddings on the rear footpegs so in rainy season it will be more Slippery whereas the Gixxer has rubber claddings on the foot pegs.

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    I think that the 200NS will have a bit better pillion comfort because its seat is less sloping as compared to gixxer's. Also Bajaj may compromise a bit quality to keep the cost low on their motorcycles which results in shorter life of motorcycles and the parts wear more than they do in japanese motorcycles.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saurabh Umadikar View Post
    Don't worry it will be equal for both the bikes.
    So in just 10k over Gixxer you will be getting
    Liquid cooling
    Rear Disc, Bigger front Disc(than Gixxer)
    Clip ons
    Better Headlights
    Bullet proof Engine which is now tried and tested.
    Lastly 3 spark plugs.

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    And a bigger engine.

    I want to know do the 3 spark plugs really make a difference ? If it was like this then japanese would have discovered it and implemented in all their engines, I guess one or two at most is good enough. (correct me if I am wrong)
    Last edited by Manan2099; 08-02-2015 at 10:29 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Manan2099 View Post
    I think that the 200NS will have a bit better pillion comfort because its seat is less sloping as compared to gixxer's. Also Bajaj may compromise a bit quality to keep the cost low on their motorcycles which results in shorter life of motorcycles and the parts wear more than they do in japanese motorcycles.

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    And a bigger engine.

    I want to know do the 3 spark plugs really make a difference ? If it was like this then japanese would have discovered it and implemented in all their engines, I guess one or two at most is good enough. (correct me if I am wrong)
    There are mixed opinions about it some says that its a marketing gimmick.
    But Bajaj says that the added Spark plugs are there only for better combustion i.e lesser emissions.
    So no performance can be expected from the slave spark plugs except lesser emissions.

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    I started riding in 2006, on a 2004 Honda unicorn, one of the best engines I ever ridden, even after all the abuse I gave a bike. I was young back then and always used to rip my bike, 10 Years later I'm on a CBR 250r, and obviously I have sobered down from those days of riding rash, now only occasionally open up, but don't cross 6000rpm. I have felt like now my experience on a 150 and 250 have helped me immensely, last I rode a ninja 650 with a full akrapovic , the power was orgasmic for me, then also rode a two stroke twin cylinder Yamaha tzr250 which was another experience, gave me a new respect for two strokes(have not ridden an rd) tzr is almost 55-60hp after 5000 rpm its a monster. My last ride on a big bike must have been the benelli 600i which was pretty nice, and manageable even in the city for power as the power band arrives late due to the inline 4 characteristic. Now I have a lot more confidence on bigger bikes cause ud learn to respect the power if your sensible. My advise to anyone starting or upgrading , start on a 150 cc then move onto a 250cc plus single or twin cylinder bike then go on to a 600-800cc bike preferably not supersport one, sports tourers, adventure tourers n nakeds are best for our Indian roads, but with abs being crucial due to the unpredictability of our Indian roads n the amount of idiots on it. Before choosing a bike, its important to see if it fits your needs for example, back in 2014 I had to either change my bike or completely do up my bike, did the former n got a CBR. My options were pulsar 200ns/220f, duke 200/390, karizma zmr n CBR. I really wanted the Duke but now im really glad I went for the CBR, 21000km on, no issues at all, its a all rounder bike, even tho its a bit of a task in filtering traffic, once u get used to it , its no issue. D200 offered my fantastic low end but top range lacked as I'm a heavy n tall person from 115-120 it really struggled to pull, the 390 on the other hand had very bad mileage and overheating issues on the first gen 390s were a lot. Was never a big fan of pulsar n hero soo went with the trusted n reliable Honda . Now u have waaay more options, I had left out the ninja due to its steep price tag. Soo yeah this is how I choose my bike after going thro ownership reviews n asking many owners, its been a great ride and looking forward to many more in the future years to come

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    Has anyone used Credr to buy a second hand bike? how reliable are their biker? They claim to have it certified.

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    Hello xbhp members!
    I have ridden a honda shine extensively for the last 2 years. Now I'm looking for an upgrade. But I'm utterly confused between the Duke200 and the PulsarRS 200.
    Need an overall reliable package and good aftersales services. Any suggestions on which would be a better buy?

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    Default Re: A beginnerís guide to buying a bike, by a beginner.

    Quote Originally Posted by kush013 View Post
    Hello xbhp members!
    I have ridden a honda shine extensively for the last 2 years. Now I'm looking for an upgrade. But I'm utterly confused between the Duke200 and the PulsarRS 200.
    Need an overall reliable package and good aftersales services. Any suggestions on which would be a better buy?
    After-sales Service would be more or less the same on both as the company marketing them is one and the same. The specs too, differ for both these bikes not more than 1 or 2 units. So the only difference You Need To Consider is:-

    1. Cost of upkeep, which i feel would be higher in KTM. (Check threads to find parts that need to be changed at specified intervals)
    2. Gear ratio.
    3. Posture.
    4. Convenience of use FOR YOU (dont take other's words for this unless the person is same body type and fitness as you), in traffic situation.

    Test Drive a friend's bike to find more. I say friend's bike because i experienced KTM showroom staff allows really poor test drives.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VisheshS-RE View Post
    Has anyone used Credr to buy a second hand bike? how reliable are their biker? They claim to have it certified.
    Not purchased, but extensively searched recently for a nephew at CredR. And what i noticed was that the Site is flocked with Used bike DEALERS more than individual users, and you can tell the difference usually by:-
    The location of person specified in address (as a localite you may be able to tell areas which would definitely be a dealer than an individual)
    The pictures posted (in case of dealer usually same picture for Same model but different instances and prices)
    and so on.

    The point being, it would be more reliable to get a bike from an individual rather than a dealer who would be in more probability of misleading.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rugved View Post

    Not purchased, but extensively searched recently for a nephew at CredR. And what i noticed was that the Site is flocked with Used bike DEALERS more than individual users, and you can tell the difference usually by:-
    The location of person specified in address (as a localite you may be able to tell areas which would definitely be a dealer than an individual)
    The pictures posted (in case of dealer usually same picture for Same model but different instances and prices)
    and so on.

    The point being, it would be more reliable to get a bike from an individual rather than a dealer who would be in more probability of misleading.
    True I was also searching for a colleague. The bikes are all dealer bikes and it seems like the dealers themselves have certified the bikes (very convenient). I have seen some of these startups in the used automobile sector claiming certified products are mostly shams and alot of the vehicles come up with defects even though they claim to be thoroughly checked. Best is to go with a local mechanic or better yet do a bit of research on how to check the vehicle performance (Alot of videos available on youtube).
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    Default A beginnerís guide to buying a bike, by a beginner.

    Hello Experts , I have Activa scooter and had been riding it from many years.I planning to change it and get motorcycle instead.I could manage to pin point Bajaj V15 and Suzuki Gixxer 155. I have never driven geared motorcycles (significantly).I had tried hero splendour sometime back and was OK with handling.Expectation is comfort on our broken road and ease of handling in traffics.i generally use scooter only for short distance so i assume i will keep it that way for motorcycle as well.I have set maximum budget of 1 lac for now however if there is really something worth of more i can increase this budget . Based on my height 5'3" and limited usage for office travel around 10km (one side) which one you would suggest for me ? Is there any other bikes i should be considering ?

    The reason of considering bajajv15 and suzuki gixxer are low saddle height , relatively less weight than honda motorcycles , ease of handling and look of bikes .Please suggest if i am wrong or missing something in these considerations.i still need to do test ride on them .

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