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    Hello everyone,

    I am planning to buy a bike around Aug-Sep. I have confusion in choosing bike; below are few pointers of me.

    1. I'm 5.4ft tall, 55kg, 26years old
    2. Will use bike to travel 50-60km in a day(weekdays, no major travel on weekends)
    3. Roads include city 40%, village roads 60%
    4. Budget around 1lakh(cheaper is better)
    5. Expected mileage around 35-45
    6. Not a rash rider at all.
    7. Very rare long distance travel(Once in 3 months)
    8. Love naked bikes only

    After seeing around, my shortlist includes 3 bikes TVS Apache RTR 160 Matte Blue, TVS Apache RTR 200 4v Matte Black and Suzuki Gixxer dual paint scheme.
    I will be using the bike for a very long run (5-6 years) and would expect minimum maintenance being light on pocket. My main requirements are trouble-free smooth ride and bike seat-height with respect to my height. This will be first bike purchase from my own money, so no place for regrets but can wait if any new upgrades are on the horizon.
    So would love to hear few suggestions especially from the owners of above bikes.
    Kindly help me.

    Thanks in advance.

    PS: Helmet, bike gear advice is also welcome(links to those are appreciated). Apart from Honda CB Hornet 160R other bike suggestions are welcome as well.
    Last edited by vinayus; 07-06-2016 at 06:49 PM. Reason: To be realistic

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    Default Re: Need some help for a newbie

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    Looking at your timeframe, i would suggest the Gixxer or the Apache RTR 200. The latter over the former.

    I would also suggest not to expect a 12 year ownership! That's a long time, a lot will change. Roads, you, bikes, skills, life etc. 5-6 years is more realistic!
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Monk View Post
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    Looking at your timeframe, i would suggest the Gixxer or the Apache RTR 200. The latter over the former.

    I would also suggest not to expect a 12 year ownership! That's a long time, a lot will change. Roads, you, bikes, skills, life etc. 5-6 years is more realistic!
    Thanks a lot for approving.

    If there is something worth waiting I can wait upto October-end and not more than that.
    I always thought a bike would serve me that long, understood your point. Updated my mind.

    Since you preferred RTR 200, just wanted to know for a rider like me does FI and ABS matter?
    I am a noob in these.

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    Have a look at SZ-RR. Very underrated bike. Won't give you power like an Apache but rides and ownership experience would be smoother.
    A basic Spartan jacket(Nemesis/Helios) will cost you anything around 7.5-8K. Aspida is a good semi gauntlet glove and will cost you around 2.2K. Studds Shifter helmet is around 2K.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vinayus View Post
    Thanks a lot for approving.

    If there is something worth waiting I can wait upto October-end and not more than that.
    I always thought a bike would serve me that long, understood your point. Updated my mind.

    Since you preferred RTR 200, just wanted to know for a rider like me does FI and ABS matter?
    I am a noob in these.
    Well, if your are considering RTR200 then a bit of waiting may be good. RTR200 is a new bike and the firs few batches are like beta test versions. The buyers buy the bike ride them and face niggles and problems which are then reported to service centers and these issues are corrected in the next batches of the bikes. So waiting and keeping an eye out for the long term ownership would be good for RTR200.

    Next comes the FI and ABS.
    FI is not that important, a carbureted bike is equally good. FI eliminates the carb tuning hassles, cold start problems and gets rid of AFR tuning niggles. Crisp throttle response is good on FI bikes. The downside is that only authorized service center can work on the bike if something goes wrong. No road side mechanic will be able to fix it.

    ABS is a life saver, especially in a country like India, where people have no road sense. It is recommended to get it even if you have to pay a bit extra for it.
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    You seem to be pretty clear on your requirements so here's my suggestion.
    Among your choices RTR 200 seems a better bet so far we haven't heard about any major issues but the doubts of being perfect cannot be ruled out yet.
    Apart from that its bang for the buck but not sure it can give 35-45 kmpl upto 40 yes beyond 40 may not be possible.

    Since you also mentioned other bike suggestions are welcome my current favorite in the segment is Honda Hornet being a Honda you will get one of the best engines money can buy but, also Hondas have bad quality plastics and electrical (I own cbr250 I know a thing or 2) nothing major but if you compare in competition they don't last long as rivals but you won't be disappointed by your purchase. Its like buying one of those Oneplus smartphones which are as good as top end smartphones but has few omissions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vinayus View Post
    Hello everyone,

    I am planning to buy a bike around Aug-Sep. I have confusion in choosing bike; below are few pointers of me.

    1. I'm 5.4ft tall, 55kg, 26years old
    2. Will use bike to travel 50-60km in a day(weekdays, no major travel on weekends)
    3. Roads include city 40%, village roads 60%
    4. Budget around 1lakh(cheaper is better)
    5. Expected mileage around 35-45
    6. Not a rash rider at all.
    7. Very rare long distance travel(Once in 3 months)
    8. Love naked bikes only

    After seeing around, my shortlist includes 3 bikes TVS Apache RTR 160 Matte Blue, TVS Apache RTR 200 4v Matte Black and Suzuki Gixxer dual paint scheme.
    I will be using the bike for a very long run (5-6 years) and would expect minimum maintenance being light on pocket. My main requirements are trouble-free smooth ride and bike seat-height with respect to my height. This will be first bike purchase from my own money, so no place for regrets but can wait if any new upgrades are on the horizon.
    So would love to hear few suggestions especially from the owners of above bikes.
    Kindly help me.

    Thanks in advance.

    PS: Helmet, bike gear advice is also welcome(links to those are appreciated). Apart from Honda CB Hornet 160R other bike suggestions are welcome as well.
    Hello.
    I would suggest you the RTR180 abs.

    Reasons I chose the 180ABS Over 200.
    1. The seat height of the 180 is lesser than the 200. The 200 is a much taller bike and I've seen short people struggling to rest their feet on the ground.
    2. ABS over standard.
    3. Price. 1L (ABS) vs 1.10(Without ABS).
    4. Can take up quiet a beating. And easy to maintain.
    5. Cheap spares and availability as of now.

    Cons :
    1. Vibrations (Nothing severe). But yes, present.
    2. Older generation product.
    3. Looks are subjective, but The 200 is a beautiful looking bike.

    Also, in jackets you can try Rynox Tornado Pro. Good quality jacket.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JS16 View Post
    Hello.
    I would suggest you the RTR180 abs.

    Reasons I chose the 180ABS Over 200.
    1. The seat height of the 180 is lesser than the 200. The 200 is a much taller bike and I've seen short people struggling to rest their feet on the ground.
    2. ABS over standard.
    3. Price. 1L (ABS) vs 1.10(Without ABS).
    4. Can take up quiet a beating. And easy to maintain.
    5. Cheap spares and availability as of now.

    Cons :
    1. Vibrations (Nothing severe). But yes, present.
    2. Older generation product.
    3. Looks are subjective, but The 200 is a beautiful looking bike.

    Also, in jackets you can try Rynox Tornado Pro. Good quality jacket.
    @JS16 I am kinda worried about vibrations of RTR 180, if not I would've preferred RTR 160 by now. I love both 160/180 but vibrations and old engine is my concern and nothing else. I have noted the jacket you mentioned, I did like it.

    Quote Originally Posted by Dandamudi Mohan Krishna View Post
    You seem to be pretty clear on your requirements so here's my suggestion.
    Among your choices RTR 200 seems a better bet so far we haven't heard about any major issues but the doubts of being perfect cannot be ruled out yet.
    Apart from that its bang for the buck but not sure it can give 35-45 kmpl upto 40 yes beyond 40 may not be possible.

    Since you also mentioned other bike suggestions are welcome my current favorite in the segment is Honda Hornet being a Honda you will get one of the best engines money can buy but, also Hondas have bad quality plastics and electrical (I own cbr250 I know a thing or 2) nothing major but if you compare in competition they don't last long as rivals but you won't be disappointed by your purchase. Its like buying one of those Oneplus smartphones which are as good as top end smartphones but has few omissions.
    Thanks a lot for helping. But I am avoiding Hornet because of looks and price.

    Quote Originally Posted by krishna77 View Post
    Have a look at SZ-RR. Very underrated bike. Won't give you power like an Apache but rides and ownership experience would be smoother.
    A basic Spartan jacket(Nemesis/Helios) will cost you anything around 7.5-8K. Aspida is a good semi gauntlet glove and will cost you around 2.2K. Studds Shifter helmet is around 2K.
    @krishna77 I did look at SZ-RR, its now into my shortlist. I loved the bike being smooth. The things which I didn't like is looks. I feel power is ok for my kinda riding. Seat height is something I might have to get used to, feels a bit tall(I use Scooty Zest these days). Jacket and glove didn't check yet. Helmet seems good. Just wanted to know which brand seems better? Here I see people using LS2 and Studds evenly. If same I can shortlist based on looks.

    So far these are my shortlist: SZ-RR, RTR 200, RTR 160. Thanks a lot for your time.
    Since I have a long time(upto Oct) to buy, I shall try RTR 200 ABS before finalizing. Shall keep updating when things change.
    Last edited by vinayus; 07-19-2016 at 02:41 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vinayus View Post
    Hello everyone,

    I am planning to buy a bike around Aug-Sep. I have confusion in choosing bike; below are few pointers of me.

    1. I'm 5.4ft tall, 55kg, 26years old
    2. Will use bike to travel 50-60km in a day(weekdays, no major travel on weekends)
    3. Roads include city 40%, village roads 60%
    4. Budget around 1lakh(cheaper is better)
    5. Expected mileage around 35-45
    6. Not a rash rider at all.
    7. Very rare long distance travel(Once in 3 months)
    8. Love naked bikes only

    After seeing around, my shortlist includes 3 bikes TVS Apache RTR 160 Matte Blue, TVS Apache RTR 200 4v Matte Black and Suzuki Gixxer dual paint scheme.
    I will be using the bike for a very long run (5-6 years) and would expect minimum maintenance being light on pocket. My main requirements are trouble-free smooth ride and bike seat-height with respect to my height. This will be first bike purchase from my own money, so no place for regrets but can wait if any new upgrades are on the horizon.
    So would love to hear few suggestions especially from the owners of above bikes.
    Kindly help me.

    Thanks in advance.

    PS: Helmet, bike gear advice is also welcome(links to those are appreciated). Apart from Honda CB Hornet 160R other bike suggestions are welcome as well.
    When you say 50-60 Kms in a day, for each day of week, (assuming all city drive, so traffic unavoidabe) then seating comfort becomes utmost priority.
    You have limited your choices to only 2 bikes so far (3 variants ). This being your first bike, I would suggest to you to take more test drives test drive on more bikes and explore all options and then make an informed choice.
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    @vinayus The vibs aren't more or less the same on both 160/180. And they aren't anything you cannot live with :P
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