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    Default Re: Bike for daily highway commute.

    Hey man,

    The Unicorn 160 is essentially an update to the 150 with refreshed looks, a digital instrument cluster, even the engine is a bored out version of the 150's engine. Build quality of both bikes is on par with any other Honda. I don't think you will face any problems with respect to that.

    Since these bikes are in the commuter domain, the deciding factors are always fuel economy and cost of the motorcycle itself. This is where the unicorn 150 scores over the 160. It's not only cheaper but also more economical (if only by 4-5 kmpl) than the 160. For the average commuter this is more important as he/she needs to get from point A to B for the cheapest possible cost. The refreshed looks and features of the 160 do not matter to him/her. That is why more commuters opt for the 150 over the 160, thereby substantiating the claims of the Unicorn 160 being a failed model.

    I'd suggest you have a look at the Honda Unicorn 160 ownership thread too. As always, test ride extensively (on the highway) before you decide.

    Hope this helps.
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    I own older Unicorn for 9.5+ years now and it is as smooth as butter even today and absolutely reliable. I visit Honda authorized service center regularly for bike servicing - and no problem as such with Unicorn 160 is what I was told by them. If you have liked it, go for it.

    Honda bikes are usually low on features (still missing kill switch), slightly overpriced but reliable and well-built. Once you get used to their engine refinement and precise gear shifting, no other bike is good enough. I recently rode RE 500 for my Ladakh trip and fell in love with my Unicorn all over again.

    Diwali is over and the year end is approaching - so dealers push to sell what they have available, often misguide. Take their opinions with a pinch of salt. Try to visit service center and talk to few Unicorn 160 owners. I'd also recommend visiting trusted local (non-authorized )service center as they have experience across different manufacturers and can give some useful insights.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shumi_21 View Post
    even the engine is a bored out version of the 150's engine.
    I don't know whether @ravihpa has already bought the bike, but a small correction - The 163cc engine is based on a different platform, not related to the 150cc engine.

    Also the 160 is more comfortable on the highway (now this is only my opinion based on my 1 year ownership of the bike and the comparison my friend made with his 150).

    There is a small segment of people who prefer the 160 over the 150, and I'm in that segment, so it may look like I'm biased towards the 160, though due to the bad experience I had with it, I moved to Suzuki.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shashank K R View Post
    I don't know whether @ravihpa has already bought the bike, but a small correction - The 163cc engine is based on a different platform, not related to the 150cc engine.

    Also the 160 is more comfortable on the highway (now this is only my opinion based on my 1 year ownership of the bike and the comparison my friend made with his 150).

    There is a small segment of people who prefer the 160 over the 150, and I'm in that segment, so it may look like I'm biased towards the 160, though due to the bad experience I had with it, I moved to Suzuki.
    I've not bought it yet. Am waiting for my finance "to fall in place". I have narrowed it down to the Unicorn 160 coz of many things, the Honda engine, straight riding posture (don't like the leaning posture of Hornet), heel toe shifter, etc.

    Can you tell me the "bad experience" you've had with it that made you move? I would really appreciate it.

    Thanx for the feedback
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    Quote Originally Posted by ravihpa View Post
    I've not bought it yet. Am waiting for my finance "to fall in place". I have narrowed it down to the Unicorn 160 coz of many things, the Honda engine, straight riding posture (don't like the leaning posture of Hornet), heel toe shifter, etc.

    Can you tell me the "bad experience" you've had with it that made you move? I would really appreciate it.

    Thanx for the feedback
    It's nothing to worry about. Mine was probably a one off case, compounded by the ineptitude of the ASCs. I still like the riding position and that torque low down.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shashank K R View Post
    It's nothing to worry about. Mine was probably a one off case, compounded by the ineptitude of the ASCs. I still like the riding position and that torque low down.
    Exactly the reason why I don't like ASCs. I trust my own mechanic a lot (only coz me and my family have been going to him for over 20 years now), and I have this paranoia that ASC mechanics remove the "new and good parts" from new bikes that come in for free service and replace them with fake shit and screw the bike up. I know it sounds ridiculous, but I seriously might not even give my new bike for the "free services". I just don't trust them enough.
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    Hey guys,

    Test drove the Gixxer today (naked version), and I must say, I really liked it. I was afraid it would have the same leaning posture as the Hornet given both are sportier bikes, but Gixxer's posture was much more comfortable compared to Hornet.

    And the price point is also coming within my budget. I am really thinking about getting the Gixxer. It looks sexy as hell, loved the posture, loved the engine grunt, the pickup, rear disc break. I asked in the Gixxer ownership thread and the FE they're getting is around 45 to 50 kmpl, which is acceptable. I also loved the odo, which showed the gear number also, which was great.

    What do you guys think? Unicorn 160 or Gixxer?
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    Default Re: Bike for daily highway commute.

    why no one giving him option for abs bikes?

    its a life saver..

    infact i am also planning to buy bike for myself as i am working in faridabad coming from way cross janakpuri.. but its a mixture of city and highway ride with huge traffic...

    by the way i am 6.6" in height with not lean structure

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    Quote Originally Posted by ravihpa View Post
    What do you guys think? Unicorn 160 or Gixxer?
    Hi Ravi,

    I grappled with the same question two years ago (my list also included the fz). I ended up choosing the Gixxer and I have not regretted this choice at all. And it seems the test ride of the Gixxer has made its mark on you!

    Let me try to compare both machines to the best of my ability.

    1. Looks:
    The Honda is okay looking and is inoffensive to the eyes.The problem with that is that you either get spectacular results or you become anonymous, the latter seems to be true in the Honda's case.
    The Gixxer has a head light design that is a bit simple. But as a whole, the Gixxer looks cohesively like a youthful, sharp motorcycle of great quality and finish.

    2.Performance
    Honda Unicorn 160:
    Max power 14.71PS@8,000rpm
    Max torque 14.61Nm@6,000rpm
    Power/Weight 108.96

    Suzuki Gixxer
    Max power 14.8PS@8,000rpm
    Max torque 14Nm@6,000rpm
    Power/Weight 109.63

    Numerically, the Honda makes more torque than the Gixxer though they both have roughly the same peak power. They also weigh almost the same. But the Gixxer has a slightly better power to weight ratio. The difference lies in the nature of the performance rather than its quantity. The Gixxer always feels slightly aggressive, slightly more brash. Like it wants to get up to some mischief. The Unicorn feels more mature, more laidback. In terms of economy, the Honda is slightly more fuel efficient, closer to 50 more times than the Gixxer which will be closer to 45 more often than 50.

    3. Handling
    Here, IMHO, the Suzuki starts to show it's GSX-R underpinnings. The Suzuki revels in its youthful enthusiasm. It really likes to corner hard and where the Honda gives you great confidence, the Gixxer does all that and then pats you on the back for the good time it is having. But when you push on ever harder, you'll realise that the one area where the Gixxer is dramatically ahead of the Unicorn is the tyres. The Gixxer gets a radial at the back and stickier tyres than the Unicorn. That makes it a much more trustworthy plaything in iffy conditions and when you're red misting.
    The Gixxer rides a bit softer (Gixxer also has adjustable rear suspension) than the Honda. It means the Gixxer jitters less over bumpy stretches than the Honda and generally feels more plush. The flip side is that the Honda's feel changes very little with a pillion but the Suzuki will feel the pillion noticeably more. In braking, the Suzuki cannot match the assurance of CBS in inexperienced hands but bring a little skill (and the better tyres) to the table and results are in favour of the Gixxer.

    Features:
    The Gixxer gets adjustable rear suspension, fully digital instrument cluster with programmable RPM light, gear position indicator, LED tail lights and most importantly an engine kill switch over the Honda Unicorn 160.

    In conclusion the only parameter the Honda scores over the Suzuki is fuel economy but only just 4-5 kmpl. IMHO this is acceptable in face of the other things the Gixxer offers. So I say go with the Gixxer!

    Hope this helps
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shumi_21 View Post
    Hi Ravi,

    I grappled with the same question two years ago (my list also included the fz). I ended up choosing the Gixxer and I have not regretted this choice at all. And it seems the test ride of the Gixxer has made its mark on you!

    Let me try to compare both machines to the best of my ability.

    1. Looks:
    The Honda is okay looking and is inoffensive to the eyes.The problem with that is that you either get spectacular results or you become anonymous, the latter seems to be true in the Honda's case.
    The Gixxer has a head light design that is a bit simple. But as a whole, the Gixxer looks cohesively like a youthful, sharp motorcycle of great quality and finish.

    2.Performance
    Honda Unicorn 160:
    Max power 14.71PS@8,000rpm
    Max torque 14.61Nm@6,000rpm
    Power/Weight 108.96

    Suzuki Gixxer
    Max power 14.8PS@8,000rpm
    Max torque 14Nm@6,000rpm
    Power/Weight 109.63

    Numerically, the Honda makes more torque than the Gixxer though they both have roughly the same peak power. They also weigh almost the same. But the Gixxer has a slightly better power to weight ratio. The difference lies in the nature of the performance rather than its quantity. The Gixxer always feels slightly aggressive, slightly more brash. Like it wants to get up to some mischief. The Unicorn feels more mature, more laidback. In terms of economy, the Honda is slightly more fuel efficient, closer to 50 more times than the Gixxer which will be closer to 45 more often than 50.

    3. Handling
    Here, IMHO, the Suzuki starts to show it's GSX-R underpinnings. The Suzuki revels in its youthful enthusiasm. It really likes to corner hard and where the Honda gives you great confidence, the Gixxer does all that and then pats you on the back for the good time it is having. But when you push on ever harder, you'll realise that the one area where the Gixxer is dramatically ahead of the Unicorn is the tyres. The Gixxer gets a radial at the back and stickier tyres than the Unicorn. That makes it a much more trustworthy plaything in iffy conditions and when you're red misting.
    The Gixxer rides a bit softer (Gixxer also has adjustable rear suspension) than the Honda. It means the Gixxer jitters less over bumpy stretches than the Honda and generally feels more plush. The flip side is that the Honda's feel changes very little with a pillion but the Suzuki will feel the pillion noticeably more. In braking, the Suzuki cannot match the assurance of CBS in inexperienced hands but bring a little skill (and the better tyres) to the table and results are in favour of the Gixxer.

    Features:
    The Gixxer gets adjustable rear suspension, fully digital instrument cluster with programmable RPM light, gear position indicator, LED tail lights and most importantly an engine kill switch over the Honda Unicorn 160.

    In conclusion the only parameter the Honda scores over the Suzuki is fuel economy but only just 4-5 kmpl. IMHO this is acceptable in face of the other things the Gixxer offers. So I say go with the Gixxer!

    Hope this helps
    Awesome reply man. Really appreciate the time, effort and thought you put in it.

    I am totally inclining towards Gixxer. Right now trying to get the final rate from the official Suzuki showroom and the local multi-brand dealers. Will let you know how much am getting it for.

    By the way, Blue color looks beautiful
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