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    Quote Originally Posted by Deathwing View Post
    Outdated a bit yes, but it's got one of the best abs and engine cooling systems and the bike is hella reliable, dominar is pure vfm, you get a great package at the price points barring a few small niggles, the mojo is more tourer centric with the good torque and large tank capacity makes it a good tourer but the availability of spares and service network is scarce soo would be an issue, the fz25 is again another reliable Japanese bike but could feel a bit short on the highways missing the 6th gear n liquid cooling, but Duke 250 is wedged between the 200 and 390, I'm not too sure about this bike, personally if I had a choice, I would put in a bit more more money and get a 390, coming to the more expensive japs , I would avoid Kawasaki at all costs and go in for a r3 any day due to the availability of spares and cost and service cost and its again another fantastic bike with the new bike with abs and metz makes it a good proposition.
    I'm now trying to get a bigger budget yes ofcourse a new one will be more refreshing than the used one. I like Mojo over the Dominor but I'm not considering a Cruiser yet. I think the CBR or D390 will be a nice choiche. Currently I'm working on getting a bigger budget.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Motorcycler_kid View Post
    About the Mojo & Dominor :
    I think both are cruisers and I'm not interested in these kind of bikes. I do accept that these bikes are good for traveling long distance. But i kind like the other sports-tourer like the CBR 250R.

    Duke 250 :
    Infact it is a good performer than its rivals. But the lack of abs for a bike which is above 200cc and costs 2L is a draw back. And the brakes are directly from the D200. Otherwise it is a good choice i think.
    Okay now I'm confused.
    Dominar and Mojo are in no way 'cruisers'. At least not dominar, the bike has a 0-100 of what, like 7 seconds? That's pretty quick and the bike has a pretty aweosme top end.
    I am thinking you're not into naked bikes, which is alright but then you don't have a lot of options will fully-faired bikes. There is the CBR250 and the Fazer250 but that's it. Anything else will take a toll on your wrists and shoulders.
    And quite frankly, CBR250 is way expensive for the power and features it offers, the bike is pretty much the same when it was launched back in '11.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Motorcycler_kid View Post
    I'm now trying to get a bigger budget yes ofcourse a new one will be more refreshing than the used one. I like Mojo over the Dominor but I'm not considering a Cruiser yet. I think the CBR or D390 will be a nice choiche. Currently I'm working on getting a bigger budget.
    Duke is obviously winner in terms of performance and tech but the cbr on the highways can keep up comfortably with the Duke, this coming from. Experience from me and my friend, he rides a d390 and me a cbr, at times in the top he used to tell me suddenly my bike felt faster, which is not true but that engine is comfortable on the highways and it returns a very decent fuel economy whereas the Duke is a petrol drinker and it needs to be in the mid range for the heating to be in check which is somewhere the cbr wins and the abs brakes are pretty good on both bikes but the cbr shaves it by a bit. My advice if you live with heat and not very good FE d390 is the way to go, it's just one of the most exciting smaller displacement bikes in the market, the cbr maybe bland and boring but it's very reliable, user friendly, and it can do 110-130 on the highways quite comfortably in fact it feels more comfortable in the top on the cbr then the Duke, coming to Fazer 25, the styling is a big no for me and absence of abs, I'd avoid it but it's upto you, test ride all your options comprehensively, read ownership experiences too,

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deathwing View Post
    Duke is obviously winner in terms of performance and tech but the cbr on the highways can keep up comfortably with the Duke, this coming from. Experience from me and my friend, he rides a d390 and me a cbr, at times in the top he used to tell me suddenly my bike felt faster, which is not true but that engine is comfortable on the highways and it returns a very decent fuel economy whereas the Duke is a petrol drinker and it needs to be in the mid range for the heating to be in check which is somewhere the cbr wins and the abs brakes are pretty good on both bikes but the cbr shaves it by a bit. My advice if you live with heat and not very good FE d390 is the way to go, it's just one of the most exciting smaller displacement bikes in the market, the cbr maybe bland and boring but it's very reliable, user friendly, and it can do 110-130 on the highways quite comfortably in fact it feels more comfortable in the top on the cbr then the Duke, coming to Fazer 25, the styling is a big no for me and absence of abs, I'd avoid it but it's upto you, test ride all your options comprehensively, read ownership experiences too,
    I have driven all the 3 motorcycles. In my opinion in comfort the CBR 250R is the clear winner. But i think an ABS version costs too much on the maintanance because of the Nissin brake pads. On the otherside the D390 have got more Horses but due to its high output motor it is not much refined and does produces more heat. I'm not comfortable with too much heat! And i didn't td the Fazer 25 but had ridden the FZ25. I think both are same! The only thing i hate about it is the 5 Gear settings. What about the CBR non ABS version? I think it's priced a bit high but could give it up for the comfort and refinement.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Motorcycler_kid View Post
    I have driven all the 3 motorcycles. In my opinion in comfort the CBR 250R is the clear winner. But i think an ABS version costs too much on the maintanance because of the Nissin brake pads. On the otherside the D390 have got more Horses but due to its high output motor it is not much refined and does produces more heat. I'm not comfortable with too much heat! And i didn't td the Fazer 25 but had ridden the FZ25. I think both are same! The only thing i hate about it is the 5 Gear settings. What about the CBR non ABS version? I think it's priced a bit high but could give it up for the comfort and refinement.
    I ride a non abs cbr, it's quite alright the braking, I did upgrade my brake lines to steel braided on the front and using p220 pads at the rear which are only 200 bucks, have a very decent lifewhich has improved my bite a fair bit, I'd say the braking is quite manageable. It differs from rider to rider but I'd say your better off abs in sticky situations , I think the abs pads are about 1500-1600.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deathwing View Post
    I ride a non abs cbr, it's quite alright the braking, I did upgrade my brake lines to steel braided on the front and using p220 pads at the rear which are only 200 bucks, have a very decent lifewhich has improved my bite a fair bit, I'd say the braking is quite manageable. It differs from rider to rider but I'd say your better off abs in sticky situations , I think the abs pads are about 1500-1600.
    Thanks for the reply. As i have finished my bachelors degree now i have enough time to spend on traveling now. So as per my likes the CBR 250R and the RE Himalayan is currently on the list. I know there is no comparison between those two. But i should get the RE Himalayan. There is a weird reason behind it! My parents are compelling me to get a Royal Enfield! Frankly I'm not a big fan of RE! The only 2 REs i like is the Continental GT & Himalayan. The GT is not a good tourer so the one left is Himalayan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Motorcycler_kid View Post
    Thanks for the reply. As i have finished my bachelors degree now i have enough time to spend on traveling now. So as per my likes the CBR 250R and the RE Himalayan is currently on the list. I know there is no comparison between those two. But i should get the RE Himalayan. There is a weird reason behind it! My parents are compelling me to get a Royal Enfield! Frankly I'm not a big fan of RE! The only 2 REs i like is the Continental GT & Himalayan. The GT is not a good tourer so the one left is Himalayan.
    Buddy, if you think the CBR 250 engine is outdated, you are dead wrong. It's more advanced than the FZ25 and Dominar, more reliable than the KTM 390's. Now with the new LED's its a head turner too.

    The Himalayan isn't a off roader! It's a soft roader. The frame will crack if you try anything fun. Don't let the looks fool you. As evident on the ownership thread, its a bit unstable on the corners and at speeds above 120 kmph due to its build. And it's got tubed tyres. Which is a total bummer. Just imagine conquering the mountains with it, ruling the trails, only to suffer a puncture and have to call RSA when you tried to park on the side of the road for that vada pav and chai.

    One of the faults of the CBR is the the lack of tech. But do we really need a side stand sensor, gear indicator, shift rpm light when we can use our common sense to find out? The only thing that's required is ABS. Slipper clutch, only if you downshift from very high rpms, which is not of much use on the street, unless you have the habit of changing gears mid corner.

    If you really want a Himalayan, go get one. However, since you're the guy who's going to ride, maintain the bike, it's better if you make the choice you feel right, not your parents or friends.

    I've been riding the CBR250 for 5.5 years. Spare prices and labour have almost doubled since I bought it, but they last long. Sure, even CBR might have manufacturing defects, but they are quite rare, and most of it has been solved under warranty. So if you buy one, take the 5 year warranty.
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    Quote Originally Posted by leech View Post
    Buddy, if you think the CBR 250 engine is outdated, you are dead wrong. It's more advanced than the FZ25 and Dominar, more reliable than the KTM 390's. Now with the new LED's its a head turner too.

    The Himalayan isn't a off roader! It's a soft roader. The frame will crack if you try anything fun. Don't let the looks fool you. As evident on the ownership thread, its a bit unstable on the corners and at speeds above 120 kmph due to its build. And it's got tubed tyres. Which is a total bummer. Just imagine conquering the mountains with it, ruling the trails, only to suffer a puncture when you pull over into the parking lot of a dhaba.

    One of the faults of the CBR is the the lack of tech. But do we really need a side stand sensor, gear indicator, shift rpm light when we can use our common sense to find out? The only thing that's required is ABS. Slipper clutch, only if you downshift from very high rpms, which is not of much use on the street, unless you have the habit of changing gears mid corner.

    If you really want a Himalayan, go get one. However, since you're the guy who's going to ride, maintain the bike, it's better if you make the choice you feel right, not your parents or friends.

    I've been riding the CBR250 for 5.5 years. Spare prices and labour have almost doubled since I bought it, but they last long. Sure, even CBR might have manufacturing defects, but they are quite rare, and most of it has been solved under warranty. So if you buy one, take the 5 year warranty.
    Exactly also compression ratio is less comparatively to other performance bike, which results in lower heating, better refinement and longevity of the engine . Also refinement in cbr is supeeerrrrbbbbb

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    Quote Originally Posted by leech View Post
    Buddy, if you think the CBR 250 engine is outdated, you are dead wrong. It's more advanced than the FZ25 and Dominar, more reliable than the KTM 390's. Now with the new LED's its a head turner too.

    The Himalayan isn't a off roader! It's a soft roader. The frame will crack if you try anything fun. Don't let the looks fool you. As evident on the ownership thread, its a bit unstable on the corners and at speeds above 120 kmph due to its build. And it's got tubed tyres. Which is a total bummer. Just imagine conquering the mountains with it, ruling the trails, only to suffer a puncture and have to call RSA when you tried to park on the side of the road for that vada pav and chai.

    One of the faults of the CBR is the the lack of tech. But do we really need a side stand sensor, gear indicator, shift rpm light when we can use our common sense to find out? The only thing that's required is ABS. Slipper clutch, only if you downshift from very high rpms, which is not of much use on the street, unless you have the habit of changing gears mid corner.

    If you really want a Himalayan, go get one. However, since you're the guy who's going to ride, maintain the bike, it's better if you make the choice you feel right, not your parents or friends.

    I've been riding the CBR250 for 5.5 years. Spare prices and labour have almost doubled since I bought it, but they last long. Sure, even CBR might have manufacturing defects, but they are quite rare, and most of it has been solved under warranty. So if you buy one, take the 5 year warranty.
    You had made me think bro. I know CBR is far better in every aspects in comparison with Himalayan. I'm not referring Himalayan as a offroader, but it has a higher ground clearance so i can worry less about the scraping while running through a ghat road. In the tarmac the CBR is a lot ahead than the Himalayan. And i need a motorcycle which can go almost anywhere. I don't need the best in performance! Or a cornering machine. I need a motorcycle which is more practical. The purpose is to travel almost anywhere, travel with less worry about the scraping etc. I don't need an ABS, or some cool technological stuffs. I know the CBR is a good tourer! But it is fully faired! Fairing can cost too much when broken! And plus the colours available now are damn shit!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Motorcycler_kid View Post
    You had made me think bro. I know CBR is far better in every aspects in comparison with Himalayan. I'm not referring Himalayan as a offroader, but it has a higher ground clearance so i can worry less about the scraping while running through a ghat road. In the tarmac the CBR is a lot ahead than the Himalayan. And i need a motorcycle which can go almost anywhere. I don't need the best in performance! Or a cornering machine. I need a motorcycle which is more practical. The purpose is to travel almost anywhere, travel with less worry about the scraping etc. I don't need an ABS, or some cool technological stuffs. I know the CBR is a good tourer! But it is fully faired! Fairing can cost too much when broken! And plus the colours available now are damn shit!
    You should check the upcoming xpluse 200 . It'll be a lot refined and trouble free bike than the Himalayan.
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