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    Default Re: A 150-220cc bike for city ride and occasional short trips - tight budget

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    Bajaj Avenger is a good bike, comfy and powerful. Otherwise, you have V15, which has good low end but looses it steam past 80 kmph. It's a fresh design with neo retro looks though.
    WOW! Zapps paaji, i almost forgot about v 15, it's a good bike.

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    Default Re: A 150-220cc bike for city ride and occasional short trips - tight budget

    Greetings fellow riders,
    I'm 6'2 and I tried an Avenger 220 street for a few weeks. Not really bad, a multiverse character of relaxed riding with some good power available on call. To add to that it still manages to be a class of its own apart from the crowd of performance miniatures we generally purchase.

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    Default Re: A 150-220cc bike for city ride and occasional short trips - tight budget

    Thank you for all the replies.
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    Yes, try xtreme 200r, relatively smooth engine with upright riding posture, safety of abs and low maintenance cost.
    I'm not updated to newer bike models. Is this based on old Hero Honda CBZ? Any change in riding posture compared to old CBZ?

    Need to take a test ride of Avenger 220 and Xtreme 200r.

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    Got some free time in the afternoon and visited both Bajaj (Popular Bajaj) and Hero (CeeJay motors) dealers here. Bajaj sales staff are polite and eager to sell. They are ready to offer test rides. They have only an Avenger Cruse 220 model with them and are awaiting Street 220 ABS stocks. I asked about the on-road price of Avenger Street 220 ABS and it is almost 1,30,000 with all the taxes, cess, 5 year insurance! The non-ABS version is 1,21,000 or so. This is a little higher than what I expected. They have promised me to call when the Street 220 version is with them for a test ride. I sat on the Cruse and finds that the handle when turned on to the sides fully, touches my knees. Also sat on an Avenger 150 street and it seems shorter in length? and the handle is a little better. I am confused whether to spend this much money, provided that you can get 2 year old Avenger 220s for 40-60K here.

    As per the recommendations, visited Hero dealer and it felt like a church or a confession room with the kind of loneliness one feel with nobody there except two-three sorrow faces. They are very cold, but showed me the bike and explained it's features, sat on it. I think this bike Hero Xtreme200r will hold better for years with the engine warranty and build quality compared to Bajaj's. Hero Xtreme 200r costs Rs115,000 on the road with 5 year full insurance and 50,000 or 5 year engine warranty. The riding position is just OK.

    But, I'm swerving to Avenger 220 despite it's horrible pricing. Will have to take the test rides to come to a conclusion.

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    Default Re: A 150-220cc bike for city ride and occasional short trips - tight budget

    Quote Originally Posted by prakash_mvpa View Post
    Got some free time in the afternoon and visited both Bajaj (Popular Bajaj) and Hero (CeeJay motors) dealers here. Bajaj sales staff are polite and eager to sell. They are ready to offer test rides. They have only an Avenger Cruse 220 model with them and are awaiting Street 220 ABS stocks. I asked about the on-road price of Avenger Street 220 ABS and it is almost 1,30,000 with all the taxes, cess, 5 year insurance! The non-ABS version is 1,21,000 or so. This is a little higher than what I expected. They have promised me to call when the Street 220 version is with them for a test ride. I sat on the Cruse and finds that the handle when turned on to the sides fully, touches my knees. Also sat on an Avenger 150 street and it seems shorter in length? and the handle is a little better. I am confused whether to spend this much money, provided that you can get 2 year old Avenger 220s for 40-60K here.

    As per the recommendations, visited Hero dealer and it felt like a church or a confession room with the kind of loneliness one feel with nobody there except two-three sorrow faces. They are very cold, but showed me the bike and explained it's features, sat on it. I think this bike Hero Xtreme200r will hold better for years with the engine warranty and build quality compared to Bajaj's. Hero Xtreme 200r costs Rs115,000 on the road with 5 year full insurance and 50,000 or 5 year engine warranty. The riding position is just OK.

    But, I'm swerving to Avenger 220 despite it's horrible pricing. Will have to take the test rides to come to a conclusion.
    Haha.. Hero is like SBI of automobile showroom

    If you liked Avenger 220. You can change the handle bars. I see there are lots of people with changed handlebar.
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    Quote Originally Posted by anoopkumar0 View Post
    Haha.. Hero is like SBI of automobile showroom

    If you liked Avenger 220. You can change the handle bars. I see there are lots of people with changed handlebar.
    Only think worrying about Avenger is, the random reports of spare parts availability problems, parts quality etc. I hope 2019 models will be better. Anyways, I'm not in a hurry. Will probably wait for April after ABS mandate comes in.

    Wouldn't the dealers sell non-ABS stocks before April? Will there be any discounts expected.

    The resale value of TVS is far worse than Bajaj, despite good engine and parts quality. What is wrong with 2nd hand market? My 2009 RTR is getting maximum of 20k in quotes!.

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    Took a test ride of Hero Xtreme200r. It is a good bike, sedate power delivery. But, I am riding an Apache RTR 180 and the way you can ride through with good throttle response makes you cringe on Xtreme200r, despite being a 200cc ride. I am waiting for a test ride of Avenger 220 street ABS. They called me saying Cruse 220 test ride is available. Small town dealers..you know. Test ride bikes arrive after a week's gap.

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    Quote Originally Posted by prakash_mvpa View Post
    Took a test ride of Hero Xtreme200r. It is a good bike, sedate power delivery. But, I am riding an Apache RTR 180 and the way you can ride through with good throttle response makes you cringe on Xtreme200r, despite being a 200cc ride. I am waiting for a test ride of Avenger 220 street ABS. They called me saying Cruse 220 test ride is available. Small town dealers..you know. Test ride bikes arrive after a week's gap.
    Why not try the Apache 200, as you currently own the 180? The difference is more than just 20cc and 3bhp. It has far less vibrations, handles sigificantly better and has a bit taller gearing. The riding posture is also a bit upright compared to the 180.

    You can also consider the Apache 160 4v. Despite having 20cc less, it is an upgrade to the 180 in all aspects, including performance. It is more upright than the Apache 200. I think it is the Apache with the most upright stance.

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    Default Re: A 150-220cc bike for city ride and occasional short trips - tight budget

    Below mentioned bikes are best for you purpose.

    1. Pulsur 220F
    2. Hero Xtreme 200
    3. Avenger 220
    4. Honda X-Blade
    5. Apache 160/ 200 4v

    please inform which bike you chose or suppose to be choose.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dxavinash View Post
    Below mentioned bikes are best for you purpose.

    1. Pulsur 220F
    2. Hero Xtreme 200
    3. Avenger 220
    4. Honda X-Blade
    5. Apache 160/ 200 4v

    please inform which bike you chose or suppose to be choose.
    Will surely post what bike I did choose.

    Yeah, after thinking for long, I understood one thing - despite the age, I don't want a uncle ji bike . I am riding Apache RTR180. What I want is a good handling and brakes - a bike which has some power to filter through city traffic. And also suitable for short trips (~200kms max). Pulsar 220 - I remembered this bike after long time. Searched online and it seems carburetor model is not available now? Only Pulsar 220F is available?

    With Avenger, I researched a little bit. It's a good model. But, seems like getting a step motherly treatment from Bajaj. The sudden braking accident videos of Avenger especially when cornering really kept me away from this bike, despite being a cruiser. It may have been fixed with the new ABS models.

    I know this is a old and still running model. Some doubts:

    * Is there a carburetor model ? Does Pulsar 220 got any heating issue.

    * How hard it is to maintain Pulsars? You know that people have a general perception of Pulsar's having low quality parts and short engine life? Any changes happened in the recent times? How is the parts quality/QC now a days? For comparison - I own an RTR180 2009 model and it's really very very good on build quality especially engine. Is it comparable to TVS.

    * How good is the plastic/fibre parts including the covering? Will they rattle after some time.

    * How is FI model? I remember there was niggles in the old models. Does it needs more maintenance compared to Carburetor model.

    * Is it worth buying an ABS 220F now, considering it's an old model, when we have RS200 and NS200 available (I have no interest in those models). My plan is to keep the bike for a long time and am not that keen on regular maintenance. The RTR180 I have is almost 10 years old now.

    * Is there big difference in riding posture of RTR 200/180 and Pulsar 220? I think Pulsar 220 has more of a relaxed riding position? And Pulsar 180? Does it have an oil cooler?



    Thank you for the recommendations
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