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  • #16
    Originally posted by Janardhanan View Post
    hey dude

    I own a RTR fi and my bike gives me a average of around 50 - 55 depending on my driving .
    Yes it has a better throttle response and pick up than the carburatted one. and also the exhuast beat rockzzz

    Oh great....If it gives 50-55kmpl then its fine for me.....Well then i need to check out this weekend probably and decide.....i am getting confused a lot.....lets see.....

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    • #17
      Wow....I have been told to book a bike within the next week by my parents and yet i still have no clue which one to choose.....This is just so confusing........

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      • #18
        Originally posted by nimma View Post
        Wow....I have been told to book a bike within the next week by my parents and yet i still have no clue which one to choose.....This is just so confusing........
        From my own personal hunt for the perfect bike which I couldn't finish in the end.

        RTR FI is definitely better in response and mileage than normal.
        RTR 180 is better on power and lesser on mileage and 2k lesser in price than FI.
        All RTRs handle like anthing, I personally feel most assured on these bikes -- even more than broad footed FZ.

        I too feel uncomfortable with heavy bikes like GS, Unicorn, CBZ, Hunk -- all weight in 143-149kg bracket. In these I found Unicorn the most assured bike for me - so only heavy bike I liked in terms of handling and control.

        I didn't try bikes from other category except Stunner(good but not a good match of any bike mentioned above).

        For mileage - ownership threads are better guide. FZ is really good bike except - low mileage and a bit pricey(75k in Bangalore) w.r.t. its specs.

        So I would say under 70k Unicorn(total trouble free biking) or RTR 160(a fun bike) and if you can stretch beyond that - RTR 160 FI or 180 (pick any - both have their merits thouhg 180 makes more sense).
        Last edited by chauhan_saurabh; 02-17-2010, 05:24 PM.

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        • #19
          Ok so i tried out both the bikes as well as the Pulsar 150 cc......Between the 135/150cc Pulsar i found the throttle experience to be different...

          The 150cc Pulsar's throttle felt a bit better than the 135cc's.....

          I have ruled out the Apache now purely because of the tires......I have heard people complaining about the TVS tires and i simply do not want to risk it.........

          Now i have to make the choice between the 135 and the 150 cc Pulsars.....Please let me know your inputs to help me make a decision.......

          P.S : The guy at the showroom said the top speed for both the Pulsar's is 115...Is that true??......

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          • #20
            Originally posted by nimma View Post
            I have ruled out the Apache now purely because of the tires......I have heard people complaining about the TVS tires and i simply do not want to risk it.........

            Now i have to make the choice between the 135 and the 150 cc Pulsars.....Please let me know your inputs to help me make a decision.......

            P.S : The guy at the showroom said the top speed for both the Pulsar's is 115...Is that true??......
            it's pretty much the same...maybe just 2-3kmph difference at most
            btw,ruling out the RTR just bcoz of the tires seems ridiculous IMO...they are great bikes.The tires is more than decent for normal usage and you always have the option of going in for a better one...
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            • #21
              Originally posted by nimma View Post
              Ok so i tried out both the bikes as well as the Pulsar 150 cc......Between the 135/150cc Pulsar i found the throttle experience to be different...

              The 150cc Pulsar's throttle felt a bit better than the 135cc's.....

              I have ruled out the Apache now purely because of the tires......I have heard people complaining about the TVS tires and i simply do not want to risk it.........

              Now i have to make the choice between the 135 and the 150 cc Pulsars.....Please let me know your inputs to help me make a decision.......

              P.S : The guy at the showroom said the top speed for both the Pulsar's is 115...Is that true??......

              The throttle response between the Pulsar 150 and Pulsar 135 is different. The Pulsar 150 will have better grunt at low engine revs.. making lifting heavy load or a heavy pillion easy.

              The Pulsar 135 develops it peak power at high engine revs, and thanks to its 4 valve engine, the Pulsar 135 feels more powerful at higher engine revs.. it's engine is tuned to deliver performance like a "sports" bike.

              After spending a week with my friends P135, I can say that the Pulsar 135 can do top speeds of around 115 kmph. Haven't ridden the 2010 P150.. but with the power increased to 15 Ps, it should also do around 115 kmph despite having most of its grunt at lower engine revs.


              The Apache RTR 160 is a great bike. You can always replace the tyres..



              Last edited by payeng; 02-21-2010, 09:46 PM.

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              • #22
                Originally posted by nimma View Post
                I have ruled out the Apache now purely because of the tires......I have heard people complaining about the TVS tires and i simply do not want to risk it.........
                @nimma: Sorry but I can't agree with this fact. Only because of tires I don't think anyone should rule out apache from their list. I am driving it from more than 1 year now with stock tyres, and about grip I have to say that it's bit slippery on wet roads. Which you can rectify also. I am using a bit more air pressure on my both tubes. now it gives much better grip than previously. Now about the bike here are some points which u can't ignore

                Displacement: 159.7cc
                Maximum Power: 11.5 KW @8500 rpm [15.7 bhp]
                Maximum Torque: 13.1 Nm @ 6500 rpm
                Fuel Tank: 16.00 ltrs

                Don't forget about Dual Disk option

                Bajaj 150 DTSi (2010 model)

                Displacement: 149.01cc
                Maximum Power: 10.37 KW (14.09 PS) @ 8500 RPM
                Maximal Torque: 12.76 N-m @ 6500 RPM
                Fuel Tank: 15.00 ltrs

                Bajaj 135LS

                Displacement: 134.66 cc.
                Maximum Power: 13.3 Bhp(9.9 kW) @ 9000 rpm
                Maximum Torque: 11.4 Nm @ 7500 rpm
                Fuel Tank 8.00 ltrs

                I don't think there is a match between pulser 135 and apache. the only thing i like about the 135 LS is the number plate mount nothing else.

                Anyway this proves another fact that apache is above all............
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                • #23
                  Well its actually quite frustrating for me to be honest that i am taking this long to make a decision.....

                  Yes Apache is very good....maybe i am exaggerating regarding the grip....but its just that my friend specifically told me that he has had problems and suggested me to look elsewhere.....

                  Its so difficult to make a decision.....

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                  • #24
                    Have a test ride. Apache is far better than Pulsar 135 LS. The noisy suspension of P135 is irritating!! And many friends have many problems. Just choose a machine with which you are comfortable.

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                    • #25
                      I don't understand why you people are comparing a 135cc machine with a 160cc. Both P135LS and Apache are good in their own segments and there is no point in comparing them. Btw, there can be a comparison between Apache and P150.

                      I agree with you soumya_digi, one should test ride all the bikes that he has in his like-list and choose the one with which he is most comfortable.
                      Btw, I got the noisy suspension problem on my P135LS corrected at the SVC.
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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by YoungBoy_220 View Post
                        ... Btw, there can be a comparison between Apache and P150...
                        ...I just love this!!!

                        @threadstarter : I have P150,FZ & RTR160 in my room. And trust me if its about power RTR is the one(be it accelaration or top-speed). About tires : Well, My bike is 30k kms old and am still on stock(strange eh!!!)...lately its showing problems and they are due for change though. I have done enough of ghats,mountains and seas around different states and trust me they ain't that bad(that you reject a bike). Its more about you getting accustomed to it. Initially(for a couple of weeks), I faced probs but then I knew what should be the pressure to apply on brakes at different speeds.

                        So, I would suggest you have a test ride and please at 23 trust your own instincts!!!
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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by YoungBoy_220 View Post
                          I don't understand why you people are comparing a 135cc machine with a 160cc. Both P135LS and Apache are good in their own segments and there is no point in comparing them. Btw, there can be a comparison between Apache and P150.

                          I agree with you soumya_digi, one should test ride all the bikes that he has in his like-list and choose the one with which he is most comfortable.
                          Btw, I got the noisy suspension problem on my P135LS corrected at the SVC.
                          I compared them because this 3 bikes are in his radar.... So I just wanted to show which gives what....No other intension....

                          +1 to soumya_digi, the best way is take a test drive and decide....
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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by joyjeetdan View Post
                            @nimma: Sorry but I can't agree with this fact. Only because of tires I don't think anyone should rule out apache from their list. I am driving it from more than 1 year now with stock tyres, and about grip I have to say that it's bit slippery on wet roads. Which you can rectify also. I am using a bit more air pressure on my both tubes. now it gives much better grip than previously. Now about the bike here are some points which u can't ignore

                            Displacement: 159.7cc
                            Maximum Power: 11.5 KW @8500 rpm [15.7 bhp]
                            Maximum Torque: 13.1 Nm @ 6500 rpm
                            Fuel Tank: 16.00 ltrs

                            Don't forget about Dual Disk option


                            Correction:
                            Bajaj 150 DTSi (2010 model)

                            Displacement: 149.01cc

                            Older Figure: Maximum Power: 10.37 KW (14.09 PS) @ 8500 RPM

                            Old Figure: Max Torque: 12.76 N-m @ 6500 RPM

                            Fuel Tank: 15.00 ltrs

                            Bajaj 135LS

                            Displacement: 134.66 cc.
                            Maximum Power: 13.3 Bhp(9.9 kW) @ 9000 rpm
                            Maximum Torque: 11.4 Nm @ 7500 rpm
                            Fuel Tank 8.00 ltrs

                            I don't think there is a match between pulser 135 and apache. the only thing i like about the 135 LS is the number plate mount nothing else.

                            Anyway this proves another fact that apache is above all............


                            Updated Power - Torque figures of the 2010 Pulsar 150:

                            Power: 15.06 Ps @ 9000 rpm
                            Torque: 12.5 Nm @ 6500 rpm



                            Last edited by payeng; 02-22-2010, 03:45 PM.

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by payeng View Post
                              Updated Power - Torque figures of the 2010 Pulsar 150:

                              Power: 15.06 Ps @ 9000 rpm
                              Torque: 12.5 Nm @ 6500 rpm


                              my mistake.....Sorry folks
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                              • #30
                                The choice is SIMPLE.

                                Bro go in for the RTR 160 FI.

                                I'll explain why:
                                1) You say you want good fuel economy, so the 180 isn't an option.
                                2) Pulsar 135LS... Are you SERIOUS? Mate i've seen a lot of comparisons but this is a downright insult to the RTR. Raw power is raw power. Nothing comes close to it. The Pulsar 135 LS maybe a decent bike for it's capacity, but PLEASE, for the love of god do not compare it on performance basis with the Apache.
                                3) IMHO, the one and ONLY plus point about the baby pulsar is (im assuming) fuel economy will be marginally higher.
                                4) The tires? Mate do you realize you're spending ~ 70-75 grand. The rear tire costs abouts 1200 bucks! Firstly the stock tires even if not out of the world, are decent enough.
                                5) The Pulsar 150 is a proven machine over the years but anyone will agree here, the RTR 160 FI kicks butt!
                                6) Looks. Yes, i reckon 99% of people will say RTR looks way better.
                                7) Just look at the difference! With an Apache you'll have a rear disk brake (which IMHO is a very, very important factor). Everyone knows it's braking ability the best in its class.

                                Overall, my friend i don't mean to be harsh but there's really no question about which bike is better in terms of performance, safety, looks and sheer class. Having second thoughts about this is foolishness. If you can afford it, the choice is simple.

                                I know how it feels, you are paying good money and you want to be sure before you invest in one of these but after this post i really doubt you should be confused.

                                Good luck and whatever you decide on, remember - never regret your choice.

                                Cheers buddy.
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