Help on Projector and HID

[Shanz]

Hi to all fellow xbhpians!
Lighting or Illumination had always been a prime concern for bikers!
Am one of them, as I own a R15 n I am not satisfied with the level of Illumination!
So I want to mod my headlight assembly a bit.
(Some short forms-
HL - Headlight
PR - Projector
HB - High Beam
LB - Low Beam)
This is what I am looking forward to..
I want to custom make my HL assembly in R1 fashion with 2 dedicated projectors for high n low beam on each side.
The Projector for low beam would be on inner side mounted with 35w XENON HID and outer Projectors will be for High beam mounted with 55w Halogen bulb or 35w HID with Red Angel eyes! (angel eys optional as I own a red R)
And angel eyes would be connected with LED pilot lamps,
I know many of u will say that my battery would drain out in few minutes with this config. But i want to clarify that I use the high beam v.v.very rarely n low beam would be only 35w HID n i strictly switch on my HL only after starting my engine, So i hope my battery wouldnt drain!!
So I wanted to know-
1.for High beam I should go with 35w 4300k Luminance HIDs or 55w HALOGEN??

Now,
Low beam projectors would be of P220( low beam parabolic projector lens) mounted with HID
2. Whats the cost of seperated p220 low beam projectors? (I want 2piece)
3. It Is available?
4. Any other options in place of p220 projectors?
5. Can 35w hid with ballast can be fitted on low beam?
6.how many ballasts are required to operate the low beam HID assembly?
7. Procedure of how to construct and make the assembly work? (any links or diagrams if possible)

High beam projectors would probebly be from some chinese company which already come fitted with Angel Eyes and Ballast!

Here are the Link of the websites and projectors in my list of purchase

http://www.tradeindia.com/selloffer/1734810/Hid-Bi-Xenon-Projector-Lens-With-CCFL-ALT-1A.html

http://gthid.manufacturer.globalsources.com/si/6008821316885/pdtl/Headlight/1017618369/Bixenon-Projector-Lens.htm

http://gthid.manufacturer.globalsources.com/si/6008821316885/pdtl/Headlight/1010787463/Headlight.htm

http://www.tradeindia.com/selloffer/1722056/HID-BI-Xenon-Projector-Lens-Kit.html

8. Is it Advisable to buy the Chinese item? (durability,warranty,fittment etc)
9. Any other more reliable or better option except them?
10.ballast and/or relays are required in connecting 55w Halogens?
11.procedure and suggetions? (website links,diagrams,precautions or warnings?)

Suppose even if I sumhow made the whole assembly work then..
12. What is the black material inside the headlight on which the whole projector assembly is fixed?(black stuff find on R1,projector fixed in that black material)
13.where to get the black material and how to fix the assembly on it?
14.any other suggetions?
15.how the fix the whole HL case including the outer glass, inner black material and projectors?

[Aryan]

Query Approved.

[abhijeet080808]

Even I want to know how to source projectors!

And each HID will require their own ballast.

[Sarvajit]

Contact digislayer, he has retrofitted projectors onto his bike.
I don't think Angel eyes can be made to work with pilot lamps!

[amandeepkamboj19]

This mod is done by me and my brother(manjeet mxs).
HIDx2
ANGEL EYESx2
PROJECTOR LAMPSx2

This mod is very very costly.

check this link http://www.xbhp.com/talkies/universa...-light-61.html

[animeher]

Don't know about P220 projectors, but you can get skoda/sonata projectors from car junk yard at around 500rs or less, depending on condition.

[Shanz]

Thankyou! Aryan da for ur positive action on My letter..

Even I want to know how to source projectors!

And each HID will require their own ballast.

So that meant I need 4 ballast if I opt to go with 4 HIDs for both High and Low beam!
Or 2 ballast if i opt for only 2 Hid on Low beam and 2 Halogen on High beam!
BTW.. Constant dipping and flashing (while overtaking someone or warning the oncoming vehicles) of High beam can affect the High beam HID?

Contact digislayer, he has retrofitted projectors onto his bike.
I don't think Angel eyes can be made to work with pilot lamps!

No use brother!
I already mailed him, sent him a private msg and many more contacting trials but no reply from him!!
May be i can clarify a bit on angel eyes..
When u switch on the Pilot lamp then angel eyes mounted on the outer HB projectors should start working along with pilot lamps!

This mod is done by me and my brother(manjeet mxs).
HIDx2
ANGEL EYESx2
PROJECTOR LAMPSx2

This mod is very very costly.

check this link http://www.xbhp.com/talkies/universa...-light-61.html

I had already saw ur work man..on let there be light thread and r15 ownership thread..AWSOME work!!
Slight changes here..
Viz. PROJECTOR 4pices and
Confusion btw installing a HID or Halogen on HIGH BEAM(HB)..
Hope u can show us the way!
Please help..
And how much that costed u in total??

Don't know about P220 projectors, but you can get skoda/sonata projectors from car junk yard at around 500rs or less, depending on condition.

Oh! My..
Darn cheap..but would they provide satisfactory illumination?
And other options?
Can any one put some light on chinease projectors?
Checked today..We dnt have many sonata or skodas here in our junk yard!!!
Maybe I can source in any car projector..

[Shanz]

Guys!
Looks like no one got answers to my questions?

Btw..anyone can put some light on the black material mentioned in the last para of query?

And anyone sourcing the projectors?
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[anilupadhya]

@Shanz- The black material is nothing but the structural casing required to hold the projectors in place. They can be made out of acrylic plastic. You might want to go throught he below link on how to install a projector headlamp, though this video shows how to install a projector for a car..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=imIiglkq7HA

I'd suggest you get someone from mumbai or some metro to visit the junkyard for your projectors. If lady luck is by your side and you get a set of skoda projectors for as less as mentioned above, then the chinese ones might give you some sleepless nights regarding quality though they come retrofitted with angel eyes. You can make ur own angel eyes too. just google to get some videos on how to build your custom angel eyes. i've tried my hand and the below pic is just a crude form of the final product i plan to have.


All the best

[Shanz]

Thankyou! Anil..
That video was really helpful.
So, that acrylic plastic is available in the market?

Sourcing in the genuine 1st hand projectors is not a big deal as Im getting good quality Bosch,Xenos etc products but they are way too expensive!!
As expensive as 10thousand bucks for a pair of low beam projectors!!!
Thats why sourcing in good quality CHEAPER product is of primary concern!
Looks like I have to make a special trip to metro JUNKYARDS around this subcontinent for the sake of my restless soul!!
Though can u suggest that which city has BETTER JUNKYARDS?
Delhi or Mumbai??
U kno, kinda metro where I can find my deal?

P.s. I cant see the attachment!!
And do not laugh for the guy asking about better junkyards!!
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[anilupadhya]

Acrylic plastic is available in most cities.. justdial or tradeindia should help you with the nearest dealer..
Regarding the better junkard between the two cities, i dont have any idea (though my instinct says you might have a lot of luck in Mumbai).. I am in quest of these projectors in my city too.. i have requested my mechanic to get them for me. Will let u know if I can get my hands on more.. You might wanna check the junkyard in your city for some 220 projectors..

I am not sure why you cant view the pic. but below is a link on how to make angel eyes. quite simple..
How To Create Custom LED Angel Eye Rings#

and yes.. you need to have acrylic rods for creating the angel eyes..

I'd suggest you get another set of R15 headlight assembly if available in the junkyard to carry out this mod.. just in case you want to keep your warranty intact..

[Shanz]

Acrylic plastic is available in most cities.. justdial or tradeindia should help you with the nearest dealer..

Is there any website of theirs or any contact no.?
Small city like varansi dosnt holds a place for such dealers!

Regarding the better junkard between the two cities, i dont have any idea (though my instinct says you might have a lot of luck in Mumbai).. I am in quest of these projectors in my city too.. i have requested my mechanic to get them for me. Will let u know if I can get my hands on more..

Even my instinct says that mumbai at any time would have more expensive cars than delhi due to that creamy layer of diffrent industry hubs..
And generally expensive cars have projectors!
Though Fog lamps are of any use to use!
Even im serching projectors on battel aspect!
Would inform you the moment i get a pair..

You might wanna check the junkyard in your city for some 220 projectors..

and yes.. you need to have acrylic rods for creating the angel eyes..

I'd suggest you get another set of R15 headlight assembly if available in the junkyard to carry out this mod.. just in case you want to keep your warranty intact..

I dont think anyone would sell a 1.5 years old launch in junk!
So rather than that i would preffrebly buy a spare set..

Insted i have a much better Idea..
I am goin to check in bajaj if they are selling p220 projectors as spares..that would help alot if they do!
What say?
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[abhijeet080808]

AFAIK, you can not buy projectors separately. It comes together with the whole h/l assy.

[Shanz]

AFAIK, you can not buy projectors separately. It comes together with the whole h/l assy.

So can anyone tell me what is the cost of P220 headlight assembly?
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[abhijeet080808]

So can anyone tell me what is the cost of P220 headlight assembly?
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Upwards of 2k I guess!