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  • New Bike Help - Totally Confused

    Hello Xbhp Friends,

    I have been regular reader of Xbhp forums for last 2 years, and this is my first post on this website and i am sure i won't be disappointed.

    I am looking to buy a new bike something more powerful than 150cc (i already owned Pulsar 150 DTSi for 2 years) and currently I am having below choices as per my budget.

    Pulsar 180 / 220
    Apache 160 / 180
    Karizma ZMR (No ZMA)

    My biking history till date is, I first owned Yamaha YBX which i loved and served me for 6 years without any trouble except regular servicing, Then i bought Pulsar 150 DTSi which was good and i owned it for 2 years then due to financial crises i had to sell it and bought Second hand Libero which is with me and serving good, but now i need reasonable powerful bike.

    My requirements and driving is like below.

    I mostly use it to go office which is 8 kms away from home in Ahmedabad city traffic conditions and when i come back its 2.00am (night duty) and i get free roads, my priorities are bike should be reliable and good to serve around 3-4 years. returns 45-50 milage.

    I go long trips once in 2-3 months (did A'bad to Mt. Abu and A'bad to Saputara on my pulsar) and bike should be confirtable for such once in a while long rides.

    I test rode Pulsar 180 and Apache, I liked them both only problem i have been looking is as you all guys know, Pulsar is said to be returning problems after 2-3 years of purchasing and Apache is called Vibrator (I love to drive 70-80 on highway and 55-65 in city free roads which are range for apache to vibrate.. correct me if i am wrong)

    Karizma is not available in our city for test ride, but i feel its bulky for city ride, little less milage (i can bare if its overall good performer)

    any idea, can you guys help me, if any information required from my end, i can provide, but i need to buy new bike little quickly

    Thanks in advance.
    Manoj Soni

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    • #3
      Thank you

      Thank you for approving my querry, below is some more information about me.

      Height 5' 11"
      Weight 68kgs

      riding preference around 55-60km/hr in routine road and 80-90 on open highways. don't like too harsh riding but i definitely don't like to ride like commuter

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      • #4
        Did you consider the YAMAHA FZ series. It is a very capable commuter. You get Ample pickup to slice thru traffic in the City, amazing styling, and bullet proof YAMAHA reliability.
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        Wishlist - Kawasaki Ninja 250r, YAMAHA R6 and Bullet standard 500 with the CI engine and a handpainted Goa Chic helmet.

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        • #5
          Why isnt the R15 in the list??
          NOT BEEN THERE NOT DONE THAT

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          • #6
            Manoj,

            here are my questions

            Why no Yamaha, Honda and Suzuki in your list as they are good quality bikes with decent mileage ?

            45 to 50 mileage then get back to old 150 cc category brother because 180 cc max squeeze out mileage is around 45 only

            but unicorn and GS150R are good at giving you around 55 kmpl

            and finally whats your budget


            this is just for your info

            i am using GS150R Getting 52 to 55 kmpl in bangalore city traffic, its good and comfortable one for long rides as well as city ride

            just test drive the dazzler or unicorn or GS150R or FZ (fz mileage is the bit low)
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            • #7
              My Answers

              @yamahatrooper
              Well, My initial thought is to go something more than 150cc, but your question made me think so i am going to test drive FZ also, main reason is i owned Yamaha YBX and i know the quality you are talking about, only thing bothers me about yamaha is i heard it takes lots of efforts to go above 90 on it how's stability at around 90-100 on highway? did you try it because on test drive i won't be able to do that.

              @madhav krishna
              R15 is suberb bike, i took test drive too but i don't think i want to spend that much money, my budget is around 80-85K so if i prefer to stretch the budget i would rather wait for Honda CBR 250 but i don't think i want to do that.

              @MSN1
              Only reason honda, yamaha, suzuki are not in list because i was considering something more powerful than 150cc

              others answers are given above.

              but here i would definitely give FZ a try

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              • #8
                The ZMA though dated, would be a boon on the highway, and the headlight is decently powerful for night riding as well.

                But in the mileage aspect it wont deliver, but refinement, smoothness and comfort, its an all rounder.

                I would also suggest the FZ series as an alternate, good city bikes, and decent on the highway as well.


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                - KTM Duke 200
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                • #9
                  Originally posted by mustmanoj View Post
                  @yamahatrooper
                  Well, My initial thought is to go something more than 150cc, but your question made me think so i am going to test drive FZ also, main reason is i owned Yamaha YBX and i know the quality you are talking about, only thing bothers me about yamaha is i heard it takes lots of efforts to go above 90 on it how's stability at around 90-100 on highway? did you try it because on test drive i won't be able to do that.

                  but here i would definitely give FZ a try
                  @mustmanoj - Before I go on let me tell you that I am a very satisfied FZ owner since Jun 2009. And that bike's been a sweetheart, just the right tool for a city run about and office commute. It s powerful enuff to smoke out any of the similar capacity bikes within the city due to it's brilliant gear ratios but it's true that due to same gear ratios the bike struggles past 90 kmph not taht it does not make those speeds but yes it is a bit of an effort to get the bike in 3 digit speeds. But then again how often do you cross 100 kmph on a daily commute basis right! And about it's high speed stability the FZ is awesome it's very well planted on the road and is not one bit scary at speed of 90+ very confidence inspiring. And you ve owned a YBX so you know the YAMAHA quality and reliability. Please do consider the FZ and Lord of the streets is what it is. And to top it all off the styling
                  Last edited by yamahatrooper; 11-24-2010, 04:32 AM.
                  "I set out running but I take my time, a friend of the devil is a friend of mine. If I get home before day light, just might get some sleep tonight" - The Grateful Dead.

                  The Stable - 2009 Yamaha FZS (Baby Beast) & 2010 YAMAHA YZF R15 (Anjuna Sunset).

                  Wishlist - Kawasaki Ninja 250r, YAMAHA R6 and Bullet standard 500 with the CI engine and a handpainted Goa Chic helmet.

                  www.facebook.com/powerslave666

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                  • #10
                    P220 is totally power biased machine but will disppoint you in mileage and reliability
                    Apache rtr 160/180- looks sexy and good performance handling best in class mileage
                    Karizma ZMR-Its out of your budget... Why have you listed it?
                    yamaha fz-Great looks, performs ok(relative to rtr and 220),yamaha reliability and is a fun commuter....

                    I would recommend you go for apache rtr 180 it best meets your needs.....
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                    • #11
                      my vote goes for Apache 180
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                      • #12
                        P220 gets my vote
                        *Its has more power than the bikes you listed.
                        *Its priced sanely, gives you a big bike feel
                        *Best headlamp, your 2am rides will be highly benefited with this!!!
                        *loads of low/midrange torque for city riding
                        *not suitable for trackdays but you are not interested i guess
                        *"I" feel the braking to be good and the lever provides ample response
                        *Since 2007 i have had no issues with the bike despite of the fact that i ride hard and as far as after sales service "I" give full marks to bajaj they do a good job here at kanpur pbk

                        ps>"I" also feel that apache vibrates a lot, my friend got blisters after a 360km ride but he was not wearing gloves.
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                        Utkarsh
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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by FTLutkarsh View Post
                          ps>"I" also feel that apache vibrates a lot, my friend got blisters after a 360km ride but he was not wearing gloves.
                          Regards,
                          Utkarsh
                          even if you ride a CBR 250 360 kms you will get blisters man that's a whooping trip for a 2 wheeler
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                          • #14
                            ^it was our first trip.
                            I was also with him on my p220 but didn't even got rashes but i had soft handle grip.
                            And towards the end of the trip apache showed a considerable drop in performance, i don't know the exact reason why it happened as the bike was running normal the next day. Whereas the p220 showed no such behaviour.
                            And its not like we were redlining all the way, we kept an average speed of 70kmph with regular breaks.

                            Ps>both of us got our bike serviced before the trip.
                            Thats NOT neon glow under my ride you fool, thats cherenkov radiation!!!!!

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Satyamzma View Post
                              even if you ride a CBR 250 360 kms you will get blisters man that's a whooping trip for a 2 wheeler
                              I regularly do 500km+ (in a single day) rides on my bike. This sunday I did 670.. my highest in a calendar date is 909km.. what makes you think 360 is a very long distance.

                              Anyways.. I have not read what the query is.. but going by the discussion going on.. The only 2 bikes in India which can hold their own in a night ride in stock form would be the P220 and the Ninja 250R (cant comment on the CBR 250R as it hasn't been launched yet.)
                              Last edited by antz.bin; 11-24-2010, 01:52 PM.
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