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if u can wait then why dont u checkout the triumph speed/street triple! very vfm and proven product! but if ur heart sticks for the ducati, go for it! italians have a way of doing it

Very similar state of mind, but I've held off on the Ducati because of the hugely bad service state of affairs. I am going to wait until a few people buy and review their experiences with the Ducati 795

Someone had posted an experience with the Ducati involved in a very minor crash, the cost of parts for replacement were to the tune of 4 - 5 lakhs, when the scratches were mostly superficial.

Not sure Triumph will necessarily be better. At this point the only proven one is the Kwacker

Get the zx10r. Its a litre class bike and no 650/750/800 cc will come close to it in terms of sheer performance. However, what you buy depends on what you looking for. Touring / two up / speed runs etc

i disagree with bigron

i suggest that it's better that your first bike which is sub-litre class.
litre class as first bike is almost lethal.
learn to walk first before you start running as they say. and even with the supersport category you would be walking really fast. even compared to your 400 a supersport will be almost twice as powerful.
so the zx10r doesn't make much sense + it can't be insured.


here are few pointers that might help you decide whether you want to go for a ducati or not.

1. ducatis are expensive. no clue why... just because they look oooohhhhh soooo beautiful - doesn't justify it
2. L-twin isn't something that many people are fond of. sounds like a tractor to be honest.
3. maintaining a ducati is quiet an expensive affair.
4. not too popular in the used market - so selling it off after a while would be quiet a pain
5. lack of hands on experience with the local mechanics and virtually negligible authorised service centre.
6. most of the dealerships are on the verge of closing down - the only strong one being mumbai - and the lesser said about their attitude, the better it is. (some dude was asked for really obscene amount for coming and servicing the bike - close to some 50k)
7. after enjoying a honda's engine - i am doubtful whether the ducati's would impress you.

my sincere suggestion would be - wait for a while - and buy the triumph daytona. OR maybe bump up your budget a bit and go for the cb1000r. much easier to handle - and rides real well. and for all we know because it's not that popular - you might find some good deal at some dealership who has it in stock.

@ samyak - Just because you think a liter bike is lethal does not mean its the wrong first step for everyone else. I know more people than i can name who have the Gsxr/r1 as their first bikes and have been doing rather well.

Coming to a ducati. I suggest you go to a ducati store and have a closer look at the rearsets / levers / triple tree / windscreen bolts just to name a few. What you see there is pure work of art. Form before function. I ride the busa and my friend has a 1198SP. Park them together and 8 out of 10 people will be spell bound by the ducati. now thats craftsmanship and that is what you pay for.

Thanks a lot for the Great Advice. The ZX 10 R is too powerful for me. I actually love 600's 675 /triple seems the option for me. But Triumph is launching in december and the prices are on the higher side. I had a look at the GT 650 N Yesterday. Seems like a good bike. Feels okay, but Somehome I have this mental block that says korean will fail. I had a comet for a yr and half. I had a few problems, but I sorted them out myself. No major issues.What Bothers me is, Garware Motor's service. Are they really good? There are some people who have very very bad opinions about the same. And some are satisfied customers. Any inputs on this guys? This should not turn out like another 'Kinetic-Hyosung' venture. A Year later if the company shuts down, I'll be screwed. I also found a beautiful 2008 CBR 1000RR, (4000 kms on the odo). Very well maintained, all clean, but I agree with you, The bike cannot be insured. How good is the kawasaki 650? I have an inclination towards Ducati.. I love Ducati's (well you cant compare it to a inline 4, but yes in twins, I love them). Is their service REALLY THAT BAD? Any known problems?

Daytona 675 spotted!

I agree with you on the Detailing part...

Daytona 675 spotted in Bandra

I really agree with you, but frankly speaking, After enjoying all sorts of bikes and cars, abroad, I really have given up driving / riding fast on Indian roads. Here we have cars and bikes for passion and enjoy them casually.. Hence I think anything above 600 is not usable from my point of view.. on indian roads.. but unfortunately, there is nothing available from the 250 to 800 cc segment... Soo the closest I could get is the 795... ( Not counting the gt 650 and the kawi) The Garware motors website states that the GT 650N has a 900cc V twin engine... lol...

well, why don't you take a look at suzuki bandit?(looks?)It mostly makes sense as a tourer.If you want to go for ducati 795 wait a bit to see the user reviews.Even though its mill is proven,it is built to cost.
If you want to go with head and stick with 600cc's ninja 650 makes sense.
I think triumph daytona is worth the wait.
It all boils down to your requirement.

My suggestion would be, look into your soul, what do u really want,if the answer is DUCATI and if u are at a stage of life where u can not afford to be carefree and have to be frugal, plz do not buy a ducati, u would not enjoy it, instead buy any japanese bike, they are all stunning, and in a few years, before u know u will have a duc in ur garage smiling at u. ( i still walk into my garage in the middle of the night and i feel my chest fill up with pride )

At this point in my life, I have enjoyed jap bikes a lot. I really love them. But I really really want a Ducati... I am thinking of going ahead with the 795. I know the triumph is worth the wait... and this is what confuses me.. okay guys. lets get it down to this.. Wait for the Triumph 675, or go for the Ducati 795... I need to take a stand quick.. Ducati Discount bookings are not open for ever! at 6.85 on road, the 795 makes total sense to me. This would not be my daily machine. It would be used on weekends or so only for Fun.. and may be sometimes to the office as well. Always loved naked bikes anyways. Faired are lovely, love them too! But there's nothing like a mean machine boasting off its inner beast only by the looks of it . I also spoke to my friends, and after a long brainstorming session, I think I would buy a all NEW INDIAN Billed bike.. So guys, help me with the two: Ducati 795, or Triumph 675. Also let me know if there is anything I must know about Ducati's service issues.. But frankly. Ducati's are totally reliable.. why worry about parts? (well assuming no crashes :P )

Parts are always more important for a bike n it will be most important in a course of a time line. Triumph 675 will be the best upcoming bike for that price n i hope service will be good as they are new to india.

i stand corrected today. infact had been meaning to write to you even before i read your comments.

rode a 08 busa today - till now had ridden the earlier ones only - i stand corrected. the bike is pure beauty. engine is super smooth - doesn't make too much wanna be noise - it's amazingly comfortable - handles well (unlike the earlier ones) - and have made me wonder about a lot of my prejudices.

bro i now know what you are enjoying everyday.
hehehehe.... well put. each time you mentioned it's an art form. in my defence - even i have been looking out for an italian for one and only reason - i need something that touches my soul - and no jap can ever do that. came into the market looking for an MV but sadly enough haven't found even a single clean bike - even with open end budget.

decided to go for a ducati - but then only realised that the asking price for ALL the 848 evos in the market is bordering on obscene. might as well buy a new one.

why obscene?
well to be honest there aren't many buyers (i mean buyers not riders) for an L-twin which costs more than the inline 4 and sounds horrible (that's not what i endorse - but a regular poser claims) and produces far less power (if you ask me all the power figures are nothing but a show off point over drinks) (i really wouldn't care if my bike reaches the 100kmph mark 0.4 seconds later than some other powerful bike - heck i wouldn't even care for a second or 2).

in past couple of months i have come across atleast 6 odd ducati 848s which have been in the market for over 6 months and still haven't found a buyer. and to add to it - the asking price has been always close to the ex-showroom price.

i am a businessman and all i can ever understand about economics is the supply and demand curve as far as the price is concerned.
if the supply is more than the demand - the price falls.
if the demand is more than the supply - the price escalates.

so no matter whether its an art piece or anything - there are more than a few guys in the market who are willing to sell their bikes but haven't found a buyer at their asking price. so logic says - they need to reduce the price.

with all due respect to all the art pieces in the world - their valuation/worth is decided purely on their desirability and availability. had there been more than a one "mona-lisa" - the price would have come down - and had there been no buyers for it - it would have come down substantially!!


and before anyone starts questioning my understanding about what ducati is - on a very polite note i would want to tell them all - for my honeymoon i chose italy as my destination purely because i wanted to visit the MV, ducati and lamborghini factories.
so i think i do know what ducati is