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  • Hero powers on minus Honda, beats TVS; Bajaj Auto takes the race to global tracks.

    Hero powers on minus Honda, beats TVS; Bajaj Auto takes the race to global tracks


    Fill it, shut it, forget it, is a line imprinted in the minds of more than half of motorcycle riders in India, a line Hero MotoCorp used to devastating effect to convey its proposition of fuel efficiency when it had Honda as its joint venture partner.

    A little over a year after the partners decided to go their separate ways, Hero MotoCorp is still king of the hill, accounting for 56% of all bikes sold between April 2011 and February 2012.

    That's bad news for the competition, not just because Hero has demonstrated a robust growth of 16.5% in the current fiscal year and bumped up its share from 54.6% a year ago. Rivals also need to be wary about the Japanese bikemaker that is synonymous with quality riding on its own. In January, Honda displayed its prowess when it overtook TVS Motors to claim the No. 3 position in the Indian motorcycles market.

    Honda has now trained its sights on No. 2 Bajaj Auto Ltd (BAL). Although the gap between the two is still substantial, the Japanese maker has a share that is under a third of BAL's, there are signs that Honda is closing in.

    For the month of February the difference in sales between the two companies (of all two-wheelers) was just 7,000 units. And with Honda Motorcycles & Scooters India (HMSI), the Indian operation of the Japanese giant, preparing to launch the Yuga 110 cc in May in the entry-level segment, it will be in a position to address a new segment of buyers.

    Nervous Bajaj? No.

    You'd expect BAL CEO Rajiv Bajaj to be nervous with the sight of Honda in his rear view mirror. He isn't. For a very good reason: he is looking at BAL from a global perspective, 35% of BAL's sales are overseas. Of the roughly 50 million two-wheelers sold globally, 30-35 million are motorcycles.

    By the end of the current fiscal year, BAL would have sold close to some 3.8 million motorcycles, giving it a global market share of over 10%. "We should go up to 20-25%. A day should come when 20% of our sales are from India and 80% from outside," says Bajaj.

    More important, says Bajaj, BAL is the world's most profitable two-wheeler maker with operating profit margins of roughly 18%. Analysts point out that Hero and Honda have operating profit margins of 11-12%; other global two-wheeler majors (Suzuki, Yamaha, Kawasaki), have operating margins in low single digits, if not in negative territory.



    Source: Hero powers on minus Honda, beats TVS; Bajaj Auto takes the race to global tracks - The Economic Times

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    A lot of bikers really don't agree with Hero's bikes being "Fill it, Shut it, forget it" machines specially due to better mileage by their Indian counterparts. But then again, that's what we call good marketing. It is something which brainwashes people, without being legally questionable...

    Hero's progress after Honda's departure is worth applauding, mostly due to good marketing and effective public relations. But one's attention is caught by Mr. Rajiv Bajaj's ambitions. Specially, the statement "A day should come when 20% of our sales are from India and 80% from outside".

    And despite being a profitable company, all its products are actually considered Value for Money... Best of all worlds, is it? Well surely, if the components' quality level can be kept up which shouldn't be a problem now with KTM's involvement. Still, each company maintains its strong points... Who knows what will happen next?
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    Indian riding = Alertness, Anticipation and Adjustment.

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    News approved

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    • #3
      We live in a world where everything is judged by perception and unfortunately, perception is difficult to change (at least for us). What will eventually follow after this post is huge thread with pages filled with how Hero does sticker jobs and Bajaj bikes being low quality and how the mighty Japanese Honda can destroy them all.


      The conclusion of this thread would be like this: Honda No. 1, Hero No. 2, Bajaj - filthy hopeless bike maker with pathetic products, TVS - only makes the best race machines...better than anyone while Enfield is heritage.

      My request to the moderators, please lock this thread before it becomes a mudslinging fest with keyboard warriors (a term I borrowed from another site) typing away to glory.
      Never argue with an idiot. He will drag you down to his level and then beat you with experience.

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      • #4
        I hope this competition between the four companies will ensure that the consumer, ie you and me, will benefit the most. Go boys make superb bikes

        Hey, I have been using the term 'keyboard warriors' for a long time now, to describe all those dudes on fb and twitter. Who live in the virtual world, and don't know whats going on in the real world. Sadly we have got a lot of these warriors joining xbhp and letting loose their fury here.
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        • #5
          can honda's dream yuga make a dent in the sales of platina,discover,passion,splendor,twister.they are all well established products.sad part is honda is aiming at volumes,i expected them to bring a mass 150 cc bike with more pick-up and not-so-conservative styling like a 150 cc stunner for those who can't afford cbr.
          bajaj is the company which is ever-progressive.
          and the question remains why do i race?
          every finishing line is the begining of a new race.

          #i have learnt to manipulate my own adrenaline and the perception of biking is different.
          #overkill is underrated.
          #how random roads may appear there is always a destination.sigpic
          #i don't subscribe to co-incidence,either it is the rider or the other moron on the road

          (:)people keeps on saying add spark to life, bajaj got hold of that idea and added an extra spark to bike.

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          • #6
            I agree with @Niranjan but nowdays people mentality are changing. Especially after the launch of Pulsar 200NS such people have decreased. Sadly 99% of those people have never owned a Bajaj product and talk rubbish. Still there are many Immature bikers around.
            @Samarth, you missed that Bajaj is coming with a new bike in May 125cc probably so after May which is based on some P200NS technologies and should be a good quality product. After May Bajaj would gain volumes. Also settling in Indonesia could turn around fortunes for them.
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            • #7
              Originally posted by Enthusiastic View Post
              I agree with @Niranjan but nowdays people mentality are changing. Especially after the launch of Pulsar 200NS such people have decreased. Sadly 99% of those people have never owned a Bajaj product and talk rubbish. Still there are many Immature bikers around.
              @Samarth, you missed that Bajaj is coming with a new bike in May 125cc probably so after May which is based on some P200NS technologies and should be a good quality product. After May Bajaj would gain volumes. Also settling in Indonesia could turn around fortunes for them.
              I knew that, but I thought that would be a bit OT.

              And you're right, that people are changing opinions, with completely designed KTM-Bajaj products coming in. Future is looking orange-bright indeed.
              Hero also desperately needs a good partnership, with the Ducati deal unlikely now, I guess EBR will have to play its part.


              Honda Dream Yuga could sell good but it would not be a top seller, I think. We should remember that even Twister is selling respectably good, but not too high compared to Passion, Discover and Splendor.
              For Dream Yuga, good marketing & advertisements will do the trick, which so far have been zero... Better get some adverts Honda right now...
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              • #8
                Originally posted by Samarth 619 View Post
                Honda Dream Yuga could sell good but it would not be a top seller, I think. We should remember that even Twister is selling respectably good, but not too high compared to Passion, Discover and Splendor.
                For Dream Yuga, good marketing & advertisements will do the trick, which so far have been zero... Better get some adverts Honda right now...
                next time a rural buyer visit a honda he will find a entrylevel bike in his budget .but the thing is honda is not that well spread in rural market,where splendor,platina win handsdown.
                twister is selling because of the contemporary styling and good power to weight ratio serving the need of a young rider who is tight on budget.
                honda seriously need a contemporary strret fighter 150 cc in their product portfolio to attract young buyer who are heading to bajaj,tvs ,yamaha most of the time.
                about the ad honda is busy in endorsing their best selling product activa,they endorse their cars more by ad like brio ,honda city ad.
                cbr ad was short-lived compared to activa's ad which goes on and on.
                and the question remains why do i race?
                every finishing line is the begining of a new race.

                #i have learnt to manipulate my own adrenaline and the perception of biking is different.
                #overkill is underrated.
                #how random roads may appear there is always a destination.sigpic
                #i don't subscribe to co-incidence,either it is the rider or the other moron on the road

                (:)people keeps on saying add spark to life, bajaj got hold of that idea and added an extra spark to bike.

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                • #9
                  Hero Maestro site up now..

                  maestro
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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Satyamzma View Post
                    Hero Maestro site up now..

                    maestro
                    Hmm.. that's a Honda Activa in new body panels.



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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by payeng View Post
                      Hmm.. that's a Honda Activa in new body panels.
                      Wrong!!! Slightly more than Dio in new body panels!!!
                      Worst thing is, its priced little more than Dio!!!
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                      Awareness + Skill is what keeps you out of harm's way
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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by aargee View Post
                        Wrong!!! Slightly more than Dio in new body panels!!!
                        Worst thing is, its priced little more than Dio!!!
                        Thats definitely an Activa.
                        Advice is a form of nostalgia.
                        Dispensing it is a way of fishing the past from the disposal, wiping it off, painting over the ugly parts and recycling it for more than it's worth.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by antz.bin View Post
                          Thats definitely an Activa.
                          Prove me wrong!!!

                          Originally posted by aargee View Post
                          Slightly more than Dio


                          Last edited by aargee; 03-27-2012, 12:36 PM.
                          Skill is what keeps you on a Motorcycle
                          Awareness + Skill is what keeps you out of harm's way
                          ATGATT + Awareness + Skill means you might Live To Ride another day

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                          • #14
                            Maestro... looks does not appeal much.....
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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by aargee View Post
                              Prove me wrong!!!
                              There is a beautiful world beyond numbers. It is called *what you see is what it is*.

                              As for proving you wrong, for starters,

                              1. The headlamp on the Maestro is mounted on the handlebar behind the speedo (Like Activa) and not in front of your knees (like Dio).
                              2. Suspension:
                              Maestro and Activa:
                              Front: Bottom Link with spring loaded hydraulic dampers
                              Rear: Unit Swing with spring loaded hydraulic dampers

                              Dio:
                              Front: Spring loaded hydraulic type
                              Rear: Spring loaded hydraulic type
                              3. New Dio has tubeless tires. Activa and Maestro do not.

                              Rest nitty gritty details are common to all 3 as we all know. Its really sad that you missed the very obvious things here.
                              Advice is a form of nostalgia.
                              Dispensing it is a way of fishing the past from the disposal, wiping it off, painting over the ugly parts and recycling it for more than it's worth.

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