Samarth 619

I see. You're somewhat right about Apache RTR 180- I tried the RTR series, and the riding position for me (Height: 6' 1") was somewhat cramped with not much space.
The footpegs were a bit forward and high, rather than rear and high but it seemed tolerable.

But, I think you're confused about Karizma. I'm NOT talking about ZMR as shown below:



I'm talking about this Karizma, the one shown below:



It looks fine, doesn't it?

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rharish90

Looks like this is starting to become a speculation thread

I think you have decided to wait already. So stick with the decision. Get some nice gear with it too.

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ashwinprakas

As far as i know theres only one "Sports Tourer" sub 90k.... And thats the ZMA-R.
The rest like Fazer etc. Are just wannabie tourers.

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kwacker

what abt the p220??? ya it has sporty intentions but it is a tourer after all.

kwacker

ya harish...waiting seems to be the only thing...dat can be done...plus it has induced many a trips to motorcycle news sites...for any news on the new bikes..it gets frustrating...

ya i am plannning on helmets from either planet dsg or from bachoo motors ...i already have rjay gp2...but change is in order...

kwacker

ya it looks good...but then dont you think..familiarity breeds contempt??? i mean its been around for a bit too long?

asif

Long is an understatement i call mine "IMPALA"
220S (without the fairing) is a good option too, considering mileage also.

Samarth 619

Yes, I know. But still, Karizma has no complete substitute.

Karizma has a torquey engine with 3 gears short ratioed, and 2 long ratioed, with the 5th gear being quite tall, a very good windscreen, an engine under low state of tuning and revving which remains cooler than the competition, useful grab rail to attach luggage, etc.

P220 might be a better performer and has well spaced gears too. But, when I tested the P220 Fi, it heated up very quickly. And my experience with non-Pbk Bajaj service was below average.


I would say you make an informed decision and if possible wait upto September end. Although yes, P220 is a substitute to quite an extent. I would suggest you to get the naked P220 which is called P220S. You will save about Rs. 4000 and 4 kgs of weight, for that large fairing.