Looks like most aren't even considering the R15. Interesting. Anyway, I'm with the rest. If you can't swing the Ninja, the Duke is probably your best bet. The price looks to be about half that of the baby Ninja. However, this isn't the old Duke. You aren't going to be "off-roading" with the Duke 200. This is more of a "Naked bike" than a Supermotard. Something else the Duke has going for it over the Ninja is that KTM has always had very good suspension. The Ninja on the other hand is going to have pretty low-end equipment, since it's really a "beginner bike" everywhere else in the world.