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  • avenger problem-engine stoped in middle of highway

    I have a bajaj avenger wich has clocked 18k.yesterday when I was riding it on highway abusing its engine and after 3or4km its engine lost all its power as if there is no fuel while the speedo showing 120kmph and then it came to halt but then I start it again and no problems then for 6km till I reach my destination.I think its because I was pushing it hard but I do it every time.recently my bike was serviced also.help....

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    Query Approved.
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    • #3
      Looks like your engine overheated, and thats why it shut down. Dont over-rev or push hard unnecessarily, unless you understand what the limitations of your engine are.


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      • #4
        Next time, when it stops, open the fuel tank lid, close it & then crank the engine. IT SHOULD START. Let me know the outcome.
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        • #5
          Originally posted by jd666 View Post
          Looks like your engine overheated, and thats why it shut down. Dont over-rev or push hard unnecessarily, unless you understand what the limitations of your engine are.
          I have rode many times on that highway and pushed it everytime.One more thing I noticed it that before giving it for service it use to go 120kmph really quick and if pushed more showed 130 but now it takes time to reach there.Could changing of sproket be the reason for this but the size it same.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by aargee View Post
            Next time, when it stops, open the fuel tank lid, close it & then crank the engine. IT SHOULD START. Let me know the outcome.
            what.....?do you think i am really going to try that.ok since the spelling of adrenaline is wrong does'nt mean that I am completely out of mind

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            • #7
              I think it is because of carburetor setting and its running too rich.what do you think?

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              • #8
                Originally posted by alderine rush View Post
                what.....?do you think i am really going to try that.ok since the spelling of adrenaline is wrong does'nt mean that I am completely out of mind
                Unlike fuel injected vehicles, the fuel flow happens through law of gravity for non FI motorcycles. When fuel flows, the same amount of air needs to inflow through the lid to the tank & if it doesn't creates a vaccum disallowing fuel to pass through & the engine chokes as if the fuel doesn't enter.

                Dude, its upto whether you want to try it or keep wondering what the problem & keep posting here or even if you want to take it to a mech. Don't jump into conclusions before trying out any suggestion.
                Last edited by aargee; 07-01-2010, 07:44 PM.
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                Awareness + Skill is what keeps you out of harm's way
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                • #9
                  Originally posted by aargee View Post
                  Unlike fuel injected vehicles, the fuel flow happens through law of gravity for non FI motorcycles. When fuel flows, the same amount of air needs to inflow through the lid to the tank & if it doesn't creates a vaccum disallowing fuel to pass through & the engine chokes as if the fuel doesn't enter.

                  Dude, its upto whether you want to try it or keep wondering what the problem & keep posting here or even if you want to take it to a mech. Don't jump into conclusions before trying out any suggestion.
                  ohhh....sorry sir never thought about this.Thanks for explaining

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by aargee View Post
                    Next time, when it stops, open the fuel tank lid, close it & then crank the engine. IT SHOULD START. Let me know the outcome.
                    When the engine died and speed became like 5kmph,I put it in 1st and popped the cluch and it started and ran smoothly afterwards.If there was vaccum in the tank it should not have restarted at all.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by alderine rush View Post
                      When the engine died and speed became like 5kmph,I put it in 1st and popped the cluch and it started and ran smoothly afterwards.If there was vaccum in the tank it should not have restarted at all.
                      Well, the vaccum is not created all of a sudden & also the air doesn't fill immediately. Its the rate of flow of the fuel at the bottom versus the air filling at the top of the tank.

                      The rate of fuel dispensing the tank depends on the wrist & it should be equivalent to the air entering into the fuel tank. The presence of dirt around the lid makes all the difference with the air entering into the fuel tank (actually narrows down the gap causing less quantity inflow of air into the fuel tank). Hope you got the point.

                      Consider blowing air into a blown off ball. If the rate at which you blow the air is more than the rate at which the ball lets out air, it will take sometime for the ball to become flat. However if the mouth piece of the ball itself is at fault, you can see the air entering into the ball & letting out happens at same time causing the ball to remain flat always. Hope you got the example.

                      Clean the fuel lid & remove the impurities & you can see the difference.
                      Skill is what keeps you on a Motorcycle
                      Awareness + Skill is what keeps you out of harm's way
                      ATGATT + Awareness + Skill means you might Live To Ride another day

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by aargee View Post
                        Well, the vaccum is not created all of a sudden & also the air doesn't fill immediately. Its the rate of flow of the fuel at the bottom versus the air filling at the top of the tank.

                        The rate of fuel dispensing the tank depends on the wrist & it should be equivalent to the air entering into the fuel tank. The presence of dirt around the lid makes all the difference with the air entering into the fuel tank (actually narrows down the gap causing less quantity inflow of air into the fuel tank). Hope you got the point.

                        Consider blowing air into a blown off ball. If the rate at which you blow the air is more than the rate at which the ball lets out air, it will take sometime for the ball to become flat. However if the mouth piece of the ball itself is at fault, you can see the air entering into the ball & letting out happens at same time causing the ball to remain flat always. Hope you got the example.

                        Clean the fuel lid & remove the impurities & you can see the difference.
                        will try and let you know.You explained it very well,will you be my physics tutor

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by aargee View Post
                          Well, the vacuum is not created all of a sudden & also the air doesn't fill immediately. Its the rate of flow of the fuel at the bottom versus the air filling at the top of the tank.

                          The rate of fuel dispensing the tank depends on the wrist & it should be equivalent to the air entering into the fuel tank. The presence of dirt around the lid makes all the difference with the air entering into the fuel tank (actually narrows down the gap causing less quantity inflow of air into the fuel tank). Hope you got the point.

                          Consider blowing air into a blown off ball. If the rate at which you blow the air is more than the rate at which the ball lets out air, it will take sometime for the ball to become flat. However if the mouth piece of the ball itself is at fault, you can see the air entering into the ball & letting out happens at same time causing the ball to remain flat always. Hope you got the example.

                          Clean the fuel lid & remove the impurities & you can see the difference.
                          i happened on my pulsar one night, i believe the fuel was low, i was around 100kmph+- & then suddenly my bike choked as if no fuel, turned ON the parking lights for the oncoming traffic my way, parked sideways on a sidestand, Smoked a ciggi & was off to ride again.

                          I wud like to know if i can continue to use the small round shaped plastic to cover the fuel lid ???

                          .. the reason i have it there because water came in though the lid once, & i went to garage the clean-up the full tank costing less than 200Rs. but wasted my lot of time.
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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by neon View Post
                            I wud like to know if i can continue to use the small round shaped plastic to cover the fuel lid ???
                            Don't do that; I suggested it him on testing grounds. Clean the rubber or check for dirts under the fuel cap & clean them. Or more simply, next time you stall, pull over, open up fuel cap, close it & keep riding.
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                            Awareness + Skill is what keeps you out of harm's way
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                            • #15
                              I had used the fuel lid cover. But it traps a lot of water/moisture on the fuel lid. It will eventually start rusting up!

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