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**Noor** · 05-26-2011, 11:07 PM

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**princesirohi** · 05-27-2011, 02:10 PM

its right time yamaha india launches a 600 CC in india too......see we already have 600 cc from hyosung and kawasaki.....then why not yamaha...?

**Samarth 619** · 05-27-2011, 02:13 PM

I thought this news was for India. Ye to KLPD ho gaya!

Could the delay in launching the new R6 have anything to do with Japan's recent earthquakes and tsunamis? Or is it just my thought?

**The Bad Wolf** · 05-27-2011, 02:31 PM

Originally posted by princesirohi View Post

its right time yamaha india launches a 600 CC in india too......see we already have 600 cc from hyosung and kawasaki.....then why not yamaha...?

probably because Hyosung and Kawasaki are assembling the bikes in India. The R6 could be imported but would be at least 30% more expensive than the competition. The only way they can do it right by setting up an assembly line for R6 in India (a la Bajaj Kawasaki). That may take some time.

Originally posted by Samarth 619 View Post

I thought this news was for India. Ye to KLPD ho gaya!

Could the delay in launching the new R6 have anything to do with Japan's recent earthquakes and tsunamis? Or is it just my thought?

The natural disasters may have had a bearing on the launch delay.

**sherahrk** · 05-30-2011, 08:40 PM

Hope one day we could pick up r6 from a showroom without much a prob!!

**shelleve** · 05-31-2011, 01:16 AM

Originally posted by princesirohi View Post

its right time yamaha india launches a 600 CC in india too......see we already have 600 cc from hyosung and kawasaki.....then why not yamaha...?

They are all twin engine bikes and not inline 4's. Check out the price difference between the Kawasaki 650R and the ZX 6R.........clue enough?

**trustvishwas** · 05-31-2011, 10:57 AM

Originally posted by The Bad Wolf View Post

probably because Hyosung and Kawasaki are assembling the bikes in India. The R6 could be imported but would be at least 30% more expensive than the competition. The only way they can do it right by setting up an assembly line for R6 in India (a la Bajaj Kawasaki). That may take some time.

Oh. I thought Yamaha had a complete factory here in India. Are all R15s and FZs and all other bikes imported as well?

**neil.jericho** · 05-31-2011, 12:16 PM

Originally posted by trustvishwas View Post

Oh. I thought Yamaha had a complete factory here in India. Are all R15s and FZs and all other bikes imported as well?

Witty but unnecessary. Its obvious he meant that Yamaha probably wouldnt be assembling the R6 locally considering the low volumes and would instead be looking at CBUs.

**trustvishwas** · 05-31-2011, 12:37 PM

Originally posted by neil.jericho View Post

Witty but unnecessary. Its obvious he meant that Yamaha probably wouldnt be assembling the R6 locally considering the low volumes and would instead be looking at CBUs.

I understand your view point. However, below mentioned post belies that.

Originally posted by The Bad Wolf View Post

probably because Hyosung and Kawasaki are assembling the bikes in India. The R6 could be imported but would be at least 30% more expensive than the competition. The only way they can do it right by setting up an assembly line for R6 in India (a la Bajaj Kawasaki). That may take some time.

1. Bajaj & Kawasaki are two different companies. Kawasaki has a full fledged company in India but do not have any assembly line or sales network so are using bajaj support for that.
2. Yamaha has own company, assembly line and sales network present in India. So it would be much much easier for them.
3. I do not see words - yamaha not assembling R6 locally due to low volumes or yamaha looking at CBUs anywhere in this post. Am I seeing something wrong or are we talking about two different posts?

**neil.jericho** · 05-31-2011, 01:18 PM

Originally posted by trustvishwas View Post

I understand your view point. However, below mentioned post belies that.

1. Bajaj & Kawasaki are two different companies. Kawasaki has a full fledged company in India but do not have any assembly line or sales network so are using bajaj support for that.
2. Yamaha has own company, assembly line and sales network present in India. So it would be much much easier for them.
3. I do not see words - yamaha not assembling R6 locally due to low volumes or yamaha looking at CBUs anywhere in this post. Am I seeing something wrong or are we talking about two different posts?

Point 1 - You're right, the KB tie up goes back to the good old days of Indian motorcycling & they have a very strong relationship.
Point 2 - Completely agree.
Point 3 - We have both been around long enough to know what he meant

Hope that Yamaha brings us the R6 somewhere down the line. For now Im content with sitting back and watching who will win the upcoming sales battle of the 650s. Whoever wins, increased 600 sales will encourage competition which means we as customers win.

**RanjithMN** · 05-31-2011, 01:55 PM

Yamaha waiting for improvements in the 600cc super sport market to launch New R6.

Really?Dont they know that India is waiting for improvements in the 600c segment too?

A 600cc will do wonders here and chances are they can even have better sales here than in any other country!
PS-But R6 is too much for India,id rather have a CBR :P

**The Bad Wolf** · 05-31-2011, 02:36 PM

Originally posted by trustvishwas View Post

Oh. I thought Yamaha had a complete factory here in India. Are all R15s and FZs and all other bikes imported as well?

Arent you the witty one?

Originally posted by trustvishwas View Post

I understand your view point. However, below mentioned post belies that.

1. Bajaj & Kawasaki are two different companies. Kawasaki has a full fledged company in India but do not have any assembly line or sales network so are using bajaj support for that.
2. Yamaha has own company, assembly line and sales network present in India. So it would be much much easier for them.
3. I do not see words - yamaha not assembling R6 locally due to low volumes or yamaha looking at CBUs anywhere in this post. Am I seeing something wrong or are we talking about two different posts?

You are a reputed member around here.. you obviously understood the context... but you had to be a smart-***.

Allow me to clarify my thoughts for your benefit... kind sir.

If you understood the first thing about assembly lines ... you would have known that it is very difficult to produce two different products from the same assembly line unless they share a lot of common parts. Different classes come from different lines. and R6 is hardly like anything the yamaha assembly lines are churning out.

Setting up a dedicated assembly line for R6 must not be feasible for Yamaha due to low projected volumes.

There.. i hope you understand what i meant.

**trustvishwas** · 05-31-2011, 04:44 PM

Originally posted by The Bad Wolf View Post

Arent you the witty one?

You are a reputed member around here.. you obviously understood the context... but you had to be a smart-ass.

Allow me to clarify my thoughts for your benefit... kind sir.

If you understood the first thing about assembly lines ... you would have known that it is very difficult to produce two different products from the same assembly line unless they share a lot of common parts. Different classes come from different lines. and R6 is hardly like anything the yamaha assembly lines are churning out.

Setting up a dedicated assembly line for R6 must not be feasible for Yamaha due to low projected volumes.

There.. i hope you understand what i meant.

First of all, please edit your post about being smart xxx. I do not want to enter into this pissing competition.

I do not understand anything about assembly lines. However, I understand what anyone's statement means. Now if that someone does not understand what he wants to convey and writes something wrong, am I responsible?

This is your original quote -

Originally posted by The Bad Wolf View Post

probably because Hyosung and Kawasaki are assembling the bikes in India. The R6 could be imported but would be at least 30% more expensive than the competition. The only way they can do it right by setting up an assembly line for R6 in India (a la Bajaj Kawasaki). That may take some time.

My original quote -

Originally posted by trustvishwas View Post

Oh. I thought Yamaha had a complete factory here in India. Are all R15s and FZs and all other bikes imported as well?

Originally posted by trustvishwas View Post

1. Bajaj & Kawasaki are two different companies. Kawasaki has a full fledged company in India but do not have any assembly line or sales network so are using bajaj support for that.
2. Yamaha has own company, assembly line and sales network present in India. So it would be much much easier for them.
3. I do not see words - yamaha not assembling R6 locally due to low volumes or yamaha looking at CBUs anywhere in this post. Am I seeing something wrong or are we talking about two different posts?

Can you please enlighten the portion where you say -

Originally posted by The Bad Wolf View Post

Setting up a dedicated assembly line for R6 must not be feasible for Yamaha due to low projected volumes.

I had mentioned that Yamaha has its own company, assembly lines in India. Can you also enlighten where I said that R6 can be assembled on R15 assembly line? A company like kawasaki / Hyosung (who do not have own operations in India) can do it, it would be the much easier for Yamaha. Are you doubting this logic?

**The Bad Wolf** · 05-31-2011, 05:08 PM

Originally posted by trustvishwas View Post

First of all, please edit your post about being smart xxx. I do not want to enter into this pissing competition.

I had mentioned that Yamaha has its own company, assembly lines in India. Can you also enlighten where I said that R6 can be assembled on R15 assembly line? A company like kawasaki / Hyosung (who do not have own operations in India) can do it, it would be the much easier for Yamaha. Are you doubting this logic?

All right dude. If a simple word offends you that much, i will edit my post.

In my very first post on this thread ... All i wanted to state was that establishing and commissioning an assembly line for the Yamaha R6 would take some time... and that was it. I never said Yamaha could not do it or should not do it.

Its just that setting up an assembly line is a big ass task... even for the mighty Japs.

I am no expert on Yamaha's internal affairs... but if they eventually do get serious about the 600CC segment, they will have to build a dedicated assembly line for the R6. A CBU would place them out of the game by making their product very expensive.

That's all... i'm not sure why I had to explain it in so many words. It was pretty much implied and almost everyone else got it.

That being said... friends?

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