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No More Superbikes for KTM as they’re Too "Dangerous". KTM RC16 MotoGP Prototype revealed.

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  • No More Superbikes for KTM as they’re Too "Dangerous". KTM RC16 MotoGP Prototype revealed.

    Now this isn't a wise choice, but I am sure Mr. Pierer backs it up with a sound logic.

    Here's what he has to say.

    We’d like to produce a successor to the existing RC8 V-twin… In which case, let’s do the following: We’ll stick to making a Superbike, but only for closed course usage. So it won’t be homologated for sale as a streetbike. Okay? So then to produce that we will take the best prototype development arena available, which is MotoGP. And for the 2016 season there will be new rules introduced when the playing field will be leveled with a standard electronic system, so then KTM can challenge Honda, Yamaha, Ducati, Suzuki and Aprilia on an equal basis. So that’s the concept for development. We’ll call it the RC16 and it will also be available for the normal customer for track days or private use on track, but it won’t any more be homologated for the street. It’ll be a really serious sports and race item for closed course use only.
    He goes on to say the following:

    But let’s be honest, if your Superbike is reaching 200 horsepower or more, it’s impossible to argue that it belongs on the street. It really doesn’t, anymore. As soon as the RC16 is available for customers we will stop with the RC8. The design is outstanding. I would say it’s still state of the art, and there is nothing else like it. It’s a classic Superbike. But with the increase in safety concerns, I’m afraid bikes like this don’t belong on the street, only on a closed course.
    More info related to the same news, catch up here

    No More Superbikes for KTM - CEO Says They're Too Dangerous For Public RoadsTheRideAdvice.com

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          Last edited by dishayu; 04-15-2015, 10:14 AM.
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                Last edited by TheArcher84; 04-15-2015, 10:38 PM.
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                • #9
                  Originally posted by TheArcher84 View Post
                  IMO, Mr. Pierer has got it right. No SBK owner has the infrastructure to use a SBK here atleast in our country. Most of the SBK accidents happening is over usage of power. We can continue to argue saying that SBK owners are known riders and respect road-safety..yadda yadda yadda...reality is people around us also needs to understand that. If Mr. Pierer says it is going to be only a track-usage bike, he is correct and bring a street-legal model for our road conditions like what is there in Euro nations as A2 license (detuned machine).

                  PS: Its not something to boast about owning a 200bhp machine where we cant use even 25% percentage of it to the fullest. Track machine are meant for track usage only,
                  His decision is company-wide... not "India-only". There are other countries with better roads and infrastructure as well. For example, German autobahns, Australian outbacks are derestricted. Spain has 20+ racetracks and there are tons of roads worldwide which have a 150kph speed limit. Safety is always in the hands on the rider. You can just as easily kill yourself on a 100cc scooter.

                  Originally posted by The Monk View Post
                  The reason more likely is that Litre class superbike sales have been reducing steadily over the last few years.

                  Most manufacturers are taking their own sweet time to update their litre class bikes, instead focussing on bikes in other segments.

                  That's probably the real reason, but it doesn't make for good PR text :P
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                      Originally posted by dishayu View Post
                      His decision is company-wide... not "India-only". There are other countries with better roads and infrastructure as well. For example, German autobahns, Australian outbacks are derestricted. Spain has 20+ racetracks and there are tons of roads worldwide which have a 150kph speed limit. Safety is always in the hands on the rider. You can just as easily kill yourself on a 100cc scooter.

                      Buddy, we are in India, lets see what we have got and forget Autobahn or the outback or the canyons....We live here and we drive here. I dont want to say anything about 100cc scooters or people walking also can get killed by anything. Lets not go there and lets stick to what my Pierer has said.
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                            Originally posted by TheArcher84 View Post
                            Buddy, we are in India, lets see what we have got and forget Autobahn or the outback or the canyons....We live here and we drive here. I dont want to say anything about 100cc scooters or people walking also can get killed by anything. Lets not go there and lets stick to what my Pierer has said.
                            1. I am not in India.
                            2. KTM never sold superbikes in India, so the decision has zero bearing on Indian riders to begin with.

                            Originally posted by bbsrailfan View Post
                            Couldn't agree more. Much of the 'superbikes' are just too overpowered and overhyped, and that power can be unleashed only under very limited circumstances. A 44bhp KTM 390 is capable enough to propel a rider to speeds beyond 110mph/170 kmph, and that's already touching the limits. How fast can you actually ride a bike, provided even an Autobahn? 200kph, at the max, and that's already pushing the safety margins, and yet, can be achieved easily with a 60bhp motorcycle. Even the Autobahn has speed restrictions of 130kph (81mph) at most places, except a few 'free zones' where you can actually rip open the engine.

                            And BTW, all the people who are complaining on a simple statement from a CEO, how many of you actually plan to buy a liter-class, and if at all you buy one, exactly what speeds would you be riding it at? I am afraid, Indian roads will not allow you to exceed 120kph at most places, and a 200cc is enough for that! No personal feelings, just a thought.
                            Autobahns have speed "recommendations" and there are even fines for driving much slower than the recommended speed.

                            Quote : There is no general minimum speed but drivers are not allowed to drive at an unnecessarily low speed as this would lead to significant traffic disturbance and an increased collision risk.

                            Coming on to speeds you can achieve on a bike; there are other uses for power than just hitting the top speed number. Going 0-150 in 5 seconds infinitely more exciting than sitting at 250. As a matter of fact, going 250 for an extended stretch is a complete pain in the ass. You either have to properly tuck in or you have to get battered by the wind-blast, both of them very tiring.

                            Speaking of which, people can (and do) easily go faster than 200kph on Autobahns. I have personally done multiple trips from Singapore to Sepang and back to Singapore, cruising around 200-ish most of the time. And as much as some people would like to lecture me, I know for a fact that I never took any risks while going at 200. All depends on road conditions and traffic, both of which were very favorable in my case. Of course, going 200 within urban limits is beyond stupid, but fenced, smooth, straight highways are a different ballgame altogether.
                            Last edited by dishayu; 04-16-2015, 08:07 PM.
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                              Last edited by Satellite.kid; 04-16-2015, 08:36 PM.
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