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  • KTM unveiled 790 Duke & Adventure R at EICMA 2017

    KTM pulled the covers off its all-new, production-ready KTM 790 DUKE at EICMA, Milan, today (November 7, 2017) along with a KTM 790 ADVENTURE R prototype, hinting how the Austrian firm’s model line-up will further expand, thanks to a completely new engine generation with its 799cc LC8c parallel twin powerplant.








    KTM CSO Mr. Hubert Trunkenpolz updated the assembled media and guests on the status of the company, scheduled for another record year of growth and profit in 2017 – underlining its position as the largest European motorcycle manufacturer. With a completely new engine platform, an expanding R&D facility, increased staff globally and now more than 280 World Championships in its trophy cupboard, KTM refuses to shut the throttle on progress.

    Last year at the same event, the KTM 790 DUKE prototype – The Scalpel – was unveiled on stage; the exhaust note of its LC8c engine thundering through the halls. This year, KTM returned with the full production version, boasting performance figures and a specification that will blow up the fiercely competitive 600 to 1,000cc naked bike segment.

    Formally introduced on stage by Mr. Trunkenpolz, the KTM 790 DUKE punches out 105 hp and 86 Nm of torque from the extremely compact and all-new LC8c parallel twin engine with an unrivaled electronics package. This is a pure KTM – potent and precise, to satisfy the needs of riders who know that power-to-weight ratio and agility can be more important than raw, straight-line brute power. From prototype to production, ‘The Scalpel’ lost none of its edge.




    EICMA was also an opportunity for indicating what highly exciting further options to utilize the LC8c parallel twin are looming on the horizon. Just one example: the KTM 790 ADVENTURE R. This is what the ADVENTURE community has been eagerly awaiting; a lightweight, compact midrange travel enduro with outstanding cross-country ability. And that wait is almost over …

    The KTM 790 ADVENTURE R prototype fully embraces the Austrian company’s READY TO RACE philosophy. With its high dashboard tower, single seat, tiny LED lights and low-slung fuel tanks, the KTM 790 ADVENTURE R is clearly inspired by the KTM Rally machines that dominate competition the world over. The LC8c punches hard from inside its lightweight and extremely rugged chassis, complete with top-quality WP Suspension components front and rear. Naturally, a production version of this would come with the very best electronic rider assistance package too.





    Mr. Trunkenpolz
    : “We aimed to design the most performance-focused mid-weight travel enduro of its class, with the dynamism of much bigger engine machines, by giving it a leading power-to-weight ratio. The KTM 790 ADVENTURE R prototype is built from a pure offroad obsession. KTM is the market leader in the dirt; our heritage in this field is something no other motorcycle brand can easily copy and this is another exciting indication of the future.”

    As a clear example of the relentless push that drives the KTM motorsport division forward and not leaning on past successes, KTM also presented an entirely new generation KTM 450 RALLY in a bid to claim a seventeenth consecutive Rally Dakar victory.
    Representing two years of intense development and debuted at the OiLibya Rallye Maroc in October, the bike is faster and lighter while being more agile and stable. Wrapped in new bodywork and housed in a bespoke, freshly developed chassis is a new 450cc single cylinder engine. Controlled by a new engine management system and a revised throttle body, the result is better peak performance and improved throttle response. And in the true KTM style and for non-factory pilots, a customer version KTM 450 RALLY REPLICA will become available during 2018.

    Last edited by The Monk; 11-08-2017, 01:09 PM.

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    Re: KTM unveiled 790 Duke at EICMA 2017

    Looking forward to seeing this in India. Will definitely pick this up when launched. The right competition to Kawasaki.

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    • #3
      Re: KTM unveiled 790 Duke & Adventure R at EICMA 2017

      So 790 is actually an 800!, 799 to be precise. Waiting for actual performance figures of this beast ! I am sure Bajaj will release it in India ONLY if it is made here(speculating) .
      Biker @ heart

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        Re: KTM unveiled 790 Duke & Adventure R at EICMA 2017

        I think this will capture the Adv market if it is manufactured or even assembled here with their competitive pricing ,what with KTM being light, punchy and handling well in general .Quality control of the initial batches is where KTM India has to improve i think.
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        • #5
          Re: KTM unveiled 790 Duke & Adventure R at EICMA 2017

          Black and Orange color scheme looks awesome. Waiting to see what they price it at..

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          • #6
            Re: KTM unveiled 790 Duke & Adventure R at EICMA 2017

            Is there any news on ktm 390 adventure

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                Re: KTM unveiled 790 Duke & Adventure R at EICMA 2017

                I only observed it now[emoji848] that KTM has moved away from trillis frame for the 790 duke! How come?

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                  Re: KTM unveiled 790 Duke & Adventure R at EICMA 2017

                  I looked at the Duke 790 with such obsession that I noticed the front tyre is a 170/20x17 in the images... Imagine a 170 front tyre.

                  Jokes apart, 105 bhp is awesome for a bike, if the midrange is strong enough too...

                  Guys, just read its set of features:-

                  Personalised Traction Control, Ride by wire throttle, TFT Dashboard, integrated dashboard connectivity (probably bluetooth), Up & down Quickshifter+, Customised Ride modes, Active oil cooling, Slipper+Assist Clutch, KTM 2 channel Cornering ABS, Steering Damper, Launch Control and Anti Wheelie (switchable, don't worry) and finally, all lights are LEDs.

                  Plus an option to add a wide variety of accessories like, USB Power out, heated grips, alarm system, handlebar mounted mirrors (!), clutch and brake protectors, 8 step footpeg adjustability, sticker kits, crash bars, theft protection kit (roadloc), mobile phone brackets, GPS brackets, tank and side bags, etc..


                  Phew! Ok for a supersports, but this list is downright impressive for a street bike!


                  Ground clearance is impressive at 186 mm. A dryweight of 169 kgs translates into some 185 kgs~ wet weight, good enough for a 800cc.
                  Fuel consumption is rated at 22.7 kmpl, maybe about 5-7 kmpl short of Duke 390's average fuel efficiency...

                  Neither figure's too bad for a 800cc roadie, in fact some quite impressive!

                  Originally posted by abhiiceman View Post
                  I only observed it now[emoji848] that KTM has moved away from trillis frame for the 790 duke! How come?
                  The front portion of the 790 Duke's frame is Tubular twin spar apparently. Not too clear at the moment. The rear sub-frame seems to be attached to the front by bolts, so it appears different.
                  KTM used a similar technique in the 2017's 390 Duke...

                  So, maybe it has some genuine benefits, like weight saving? or reducing back seat drivers' contribution to the handling (which is often, a headache for the rider)?

                  The front portion of the frame seems well connected to the steering, knee area, footpegs and seat, so handling shouldn't be a concern.
                  Last edited by Samarth 619; 11-14-2017, 04:51 PM.
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                    Re: KTM unveiled 790 Duke & Adventure R at EICMA 2017

                    Originally posted by Samarth 619 View Post

                    The front portion of the 790 Duke's frame is Trellis. The rear sub-frame seems to be attached to the front by bolts, so it appears different.
                    KTM used a similar technique in the 2017's 390 Duke...

                    So, maybe it has some genuine benefits, like weight saving? or reducing back seat drivers' contribution to the handling (which is often, a headache for the rider)?

                    The front portion of the frame seems well connected to the steering, knee area, footpegs and seat, so handling shouldn't be a concern.
                    Do you have anything to back up the frame being Trellis fact? I searched around and couldn't find any pictures of the frame on the internet. From the looks of it , it appears more to be a variation of the 'spine' type frame which is used in the FZ07 or the honda hornet 600 or the ninja 250/300 for that matter. The defining part of a trellis frame is the lattice structure which essentially implements the mechanical concept of trusses taught in engineering first year. I donot see that structure at all.
                    I could be wrong though which is why I want to see the photo of the frame.

                    Re the subframe bolt on, it is aluminium, so not straightforward to weld to the mainframe which is steel. So easier is to bolt it. Weight saving comes from it being aluminium and not because it is bolted on obviously

                    This would be my next bike when I get back to India. This or the FZ09. Although I am sure the FZ09 will remain out of reach
                    The hero always RIDES into the sunset!

                    My Touring Logs-
                    French Riviera
                    https://www.xbhp.com/talkies/tourer/38345-biking-french-riviera.html
                    Scotland-
                    http://www.xbhp.com/talkies/tourer/3...-3600-kms.html
                    France -Normandy and Paris on the CBR
                    http://www.xbhp.com/talkies/tourer/3...adventure.html
                    KTM chronicles-
                    http://www.xbhp.com/talkies/tourer/2...hronicles.html

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                      Re: KTM unveiled 790 Duke & Adventure R at EICMA 2017

                      Originally posted by Doga View Post
                      Do you have anything to back up the frame being Trellis fact? I searched around and couldn't find any pictures of the frame on the internet. From the looks of it , it appears more to be a variation of the 'spine' type frame which is used in the FZ07 or the honda hornet 600 or the ninja 250/300 for that matter. The defining part of a trellis frame is the lattice structure which essentially implements the mechanical concept of trusses taught in engineering first year. I donot see that structure at all.
                      I could be wrong though which is why I want to see the photo of the frame.

                      edit- actually looking at the frames now the hor net 600 is teh real spine type frame, the ninja 250 is a variation of cradle where the lower beams are absent

                      Re the subframe bolt on, it is aluminium, so not straightforward to weld to the mainframe which is steel. So easier is to bolt it. Weight saving comes from it being aluminium and not because it is bolted on obviously

                      This would be my next bike when I get back to India. This or the FZ09. Although I am sure the FZ09 will remain out of reach
                      edit in bold above
                      The hero always RIDES into the sunset!

                      My Touring Logs-
                      French Riviera
                      https://www.xbhp.com/talkies/tourer/38345-biking-french-riviera.html
                      Scotland-
                      http://www.xbhp.com/talkies/tourer/3...-3600-kms.html
                      France -Normandy and Paris on the CBR
                      http://www.xbhp.com/talkies/tourer/3...adventure.html
                      KTM chronicles-
                      http://www.xbhp.com/talkies/tourer/2...hronicles.html

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                        Re: KTM unveiled 790 Duke & Adventure R at EICMA 2017

                        Originally posted by Doga View Post
                        Do you have anything to back up the frame being Trellis fact? I searched around and couldn't find any pictures of the frame on the internet. From the looks of it , it appears more to be a variation of the 'spine' type frame which is used in the FZ07 or the honda hornet 600 or the ninja 250/300 for that matter. The defining part of a trellis frame is the lattice structure which essentially implements the mechanical concept of trusses taught in engineering first year. I donot see that structure at all.
                        I could be wrong though which is why I want to see the photo of the frame.
                        Re the subframe bolt on, it is aluminium, so not straightforward to weld to the mainframe which is steel. So easier is to bolt it. Weight saving comes from it being aluminium and not because it is bolted on obviously
                        This would be my next bike when I get back to India. This or the FZ09. Although I am sure the FZ09 will remain out of reach
                        Ok, I guess I used the wrong terminology. Trellis refers to a basic twin structure from swingarm to steering, reinforced in mid by triangulated, often welded metal rods, it does not necessarily have to be tubular.

                        But, I guess a lot of informed people have made the same mistake:- https://www.google.co.in/search?clie....0.bUfkDPKWy1U

                        790 Duke has a tubular frame though. Its a steel molybdenum, robot welded tubular frame.. I saw this on the official link of KTM 790 Duke here: KTM - READY TO RACE

                        I agree with rest of the post. However, I see this bolt on frame as a good move, it might just increase the rider's control, when riding pillion, although only testing can verify this.
                        Wish you all the best for the purchase. I'm keeping an eye on it too, for myself, if it launches...
                        Last edited by Samarth 619; 11-16-2017, 12:12 PM. Reason: "Steering"
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                          Re: KTM unveiled 790 Duke & Adventure R at EICMA 2017

                          Originally posted by Samarth 619 View Post
                          Ok, I guess I used the wrong terminology. Trellis refers to a basic twin structure from swingarm to streeting, reinforced in mid by triangulated, often welded metal rods, it does not necessarily have to be tubular.

                          But, I guess a lot of informed people have made the same mistake:- https://www.google.co.in/search?clie....0.bUfkDPKWy1U

                          790 Duke has a tubular frame though. Its a steel molybdenum, robot welded tubular frame.. I saw this on the official link of KTM 790 Duke here: KTM - READY TO RACE

                          I agree with rest of the post. However, I see this bolt on frame as a good move, it might just increase the rider's control, when riding pillion, although only testing can verify this.
                          Wish you all the best for the purchase. I'm keeping an eye on it too, for myself, if it launches...
                          Hey I think you just confirmed my understanding of a trellis frame. I do not see where I made a mistake other informed people make here
                          I said-
                          The defining part of a trellis frame is the lattice structure which essentially implements the mechanical concept of trusses taught in engineering first year. I donot see that structure at all.

                          By the lattice(ok a 2D lattice -usually lattice is a 3D structure) I meant the triangular structure you say above.
                          And I don't see this in the 790 frame above. It looks to me similar to a ninja 250 main frame which I initially referred to as a variation of 'spine' but later edited/corrected to a semi cradle type. Check out the pictures of those frames on the net. It looks like a semi cradle with 2 extensions below the head to support the engine in the front. Only in a full cradle these extensions would arch under the engine and join the swingarm.
                          Looking at the FZ07 frame there are 2 small trusses very close to the head connecting the the main tube to these 2 extensions so there is 'some trellis' there, but the 790 doesn't have any smaller tubes connecting.
                          Check out this video available on the kiska website and look closely at 2:01




                          Re your statement
                          ' often welded metal rods, it does not necessarily have to be tubular.'
                          It has to be welded every single time and not often. I do not see how a manufacturer can cast/forge a trellis frame out of steel/aluminium. It won't be cost effective.
                          Even the beam/twin spar type frames which have relatively simpler structure are welded together(near the head race and in the past right in the middle as well), but I guess with advanced manufacturing techniques they now fashion two beams in full and then weld them together near the head .
                          A proper weld in perfect condition is not much different to a cast anyway.It's continuous metal for all intents and proposes.
                          Again, I agree it doesn't have to be tubular, but given that the frame has to have a certain minimum size to connect the swingarm and the head, if it's all solid metal then it's going to weigh a ton. So in practice it always has to be tubular
                          Last edited by Doga; 11-23-2017, 05:27 AM.
                          The hero always RIDES into the sunset!

                          My Touring Logs-
                          French Riviera
                          https://www.xbhp.com/talkies/tourer/38345-biking-french-riviera.html
                          Scotland-
                          http://www.xbhp.com/talkies/tourer/3...-3600-kms.html
                          France -Normandy and Paris on the CBR
                          http://www.xbhp.com/talkies/tourer/3...adventure.html
                          KTM chronicles-
                          http://www.xbhp.com/talkies/tourer/2...hronicles.html

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                          • #14
                            Re: KTM unveiled 790 Duke & Adventure R at EICMA 2017

                            Hi All
                            Prices for 790 duke visible on KTM UK website and its 8499£.

                            Great pricing

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