aargee

Guys, pls help me with your thoughts/share experience & provide your opinions as how to carry out my requirement. Thanks in advance

Requirement - I wish to use 12V LED for my 19 years old RX100 as part of my rebuild. Now, here're some of the things that I, want to do (Necessity) & like to do (Feel Good).

List of Want to Do (Necessity)
1. LED for neutral, highbeam, left & right indicator pilot lamps & the speedometer

List of Like to Do (Feel Good)
1. LED for tail lamp & LED for all four indicators (2 front & 2 rear)
2. HID for the front light

Constraints
1. No Indian Juggad work; means, I will be using the OE Minda wiring harness, but no wire twists or loose hangings, the work should be in good quality; I know the holders will hold only good old bulbs, but not sure if its possible to cut the existing holders & make new holders for LED bulbs & its possible implications. Final outcome should be like, if the LED bulb fuses in future, I should be able to replace it without anyone's help like fixing a bulb.
2. Meddling with this electrical should not affect any other electrical such as CDI, alternator, battery, horns or even the HID (if I fit them).

Thanks.

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jd666

@aargee - call me when free, ill give a few ideas..

LEDs for the meter clusters can be installed with a resistance in series to keep the voltage right. You get pre made led bulbs for the indicators/parking light.

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I also want to fit LED's in my pilot lamps.
I have 2 leds as big as pilot lamps can i fit them directly on my P135LS as it have all DC electrical system.

aargee

Thanks JD, as always.
Could you point some link to show me some ready made led bulbs for the indicators/parking light. Trust me, I'm scared of electrical & electronics, so I'll get the job done by some auto electrician, but I'll also learn how to do it so that he doesn't take me around.

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Puneet1

the leds are there in all shapes and sizes . the ones for cars/bikes also have inbuilt resistors for 12 v power . see image -

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aargee

@Puneet - Inbuilt resistors??? That's fantastic to hear. Thanks for the pic.

Ok, so let me be refine the requirements further; I like to buy 5 white color LED's for the pilot lamps (neutral, highbeam, left & right turn signals & speedo meter), then 4 orange color LED's for the front & rear left & right indicators & a LED strip for the rear tail lamp.

I'll be using the 12V 5 amps battery, the battery may or may not be a maintainence free (suggestions invited); but would love to have a HID setup & if I'm not asking too much, the headlight doom will still give the look of RX. Basically to give a modern technology in the old motorcycle.

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Ayson

Let me ask you an all basic question. Does your bike have a DC or AC or mixed electrical system?

Bikes in India, till about two years ago had a AC+DC electrical system. Easy way to find out is, things that work when the bike is not started (but key is at ON) is DC. Things that need the engine on to work is AC. Provided your battery is working, otherwise nothing will work when the engine is off.

LEDs require a DC supply. Im not sure but i think HIDs need DC too. The incandecent bulbs you currently have will work fine on AC or DC of the same voltage.

So before you can think of LEDs you have to think of the power supply. Either you can do a full DC conversion or just add circuitry to the components you want to use LEDs with. Looking at your needs, which is LEDs everywhere, i think a full conversion is better.

EDIT: On second thought, i think your console lights, indicators and brake light will already have a DC supply. I am unfamiliar with the RX. If you can confirm this then the work becomes a lot easier. For your brakes and indicators you can use the ready made LEDs with holders mentioned above. I think white will do since the brake and indicators have covers of their respective colours.

EDIT 2 : Sorry, my mistake. You can't use white for all because the covers will filter most of the light. You will have to use respective colour LEDs. And how are the bulbs that are currently present in your console mounted? Soldered or have sockets?

jd666

^^ they sockets, and white LEDs will give the best meter illumination and info light back light.

@aargee - IMO go for a white light bulb first for the headlight. See how that comes out. A HID kit will involve a reworking of the wiring, and modifying the stator plate etc, to DC to provide the necessary power.

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aargee

AC & DC both; DC to turn lights, one line to the tail lamp when the brakes are applied, neutral, highbeam, turn lights switch indicators & horn.

AC for headlights & 1 line to the rear tail lamp when the headlight is ON

Currently I'm planning a new set of wiring & hence no need to worry learning about the existing setup, I'm willing to change to a new setup from scratch.

HID requires a new battery as such, this is what I found out from a ZMA that had this setup.

I get the point here.

You're right.
AC & DC both; DC to turn lights, one line to the tail lamp when the brakes are applied, neutral, highbeam, turn lights switch indicators & horn. AC for headlights & 1 line to the rear tail lamp when the headlight is ON. I can use white LED as the respective cover has the coloring.


Oh!!! I thought white should do justice

Oh!!! but I thought the HID conversion was simple enough to pull a DC line from a new battery setup.

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