skyblues075

I have a few doubts to clarify.
1.what is the correct method of downshifting when slowin down.is it brake and shift.shift and brake.or simultaneously.i ride an apache rtr 160.i downshift after i brake like near the signals speedbreakers somethin like hard breakin.the problem is am not able to downshift after i brake suddenly.the gear lever moves like there are no more gears.get ma point.its very irritatin at places like speedbreakers.my bike is 3k kms old.i ve had this problem from the starting.
2. I used to get a sound from the rear brake when i brake slow.the sound like a cycle s brake.the screechin one.is it due to dust.ma front disc startin squealin from the past one week when am brakin.is it due to dust on the pads.i left it unused for ten days and the problem started after this.

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moeed

1. Concentrate on braking first and then downshifting. You don't need to compress the clutch when you are braking at high speeds and while sudden braking.
When you feel that the gear is jammed, depress the clutch and then compress it again. This will solve the problem.

2. Get the greasing done to the rear brakes for better play. This will stop the noise.

Sarvajit

Don't downshift all the gears at once when you are near the signal, rather downshift gradually with the decrease in speed, similarly as you upshift. This is just the reverse process.

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tibby

Always give priority to braking, than down-shifting..
Its better to downshift one gear at a time, before coming to a complete halt..
Downshift after coming to a complete halt, only in cases of sudden braking..

You can downshift, & brake at the same time, keeping an eye on the tachy though.. Coz you dont wanna rev the bike too high while downshifting - it will give you a kind of sudden jerk..

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The pleasure is when your rear wheel slides, and you bring it back; and when the front wheel lifts, you take your time bringing it back.

moeed

That's what I do normally. I was talking about sudden braking.

pratap007

Hello there!!
What you have come across is one the most important aspects of riding a bike safely. Its called gear checking...its different from conventional downshifting.

When you come to a stop or a speedbreaker, you have to synchronise your downshifts with the engine rpm as well as gear rpm and tyre rpm.
It goes like this -
When you are braking from a high speed to a very low speed,
1.Front brake on, rear brake being caressed
2.Clutch in and rev according to the gears you will be shifting down to also keep in mind whether you want to stop completely or wanna take off again.
3.So after clutch in, revving you shift down and will notice the bike actually stops much before the point where you would have reached if you had just used brakes.
4.Watch for it in racing videos - this technique is used in cars bikes basically anything that has a manual gearbox and an engine.
Heel toe shifting is an advanced form of this when done in cars.
A computer does this is F1 cars.

The only way you can learn it is with practice. Watch out for stuff like this in racing videos...you can tell by the sound what they're doin...hehe

You can never brake efficiently unless you practise this technique.
Front brake 80% and rear 20% is meaningless unless coupled with gear checking.

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neon

ALso you can try 1 more thing...

1. When you are shifting gears i.e to slow down the bike, pull the clutch, change the gear simultaniously applying front gently & then rear brake gently & then release it gently & pull the clutch - change the gear, accelerate a bit so that rpm is sum what similar .. & then loosen the clutch ...


Imp. Point - Dont pull the front to hard just a slight, as to you can hear the brake pads rubbing the disc, you bike can be controlled during the skid, if u held the front lighter & then rear (with intimidate body weight in the center) & also checking to brake using engine braking !!

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sheelpriye

Go through these threads, you shall find most of your answers, in case you don't, post a query in the relevant thread and you shall get answers.

Engine braking and gear braking

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