Honda's new 700cc naked: how good is it going to be?

[rx100.7050]

Check this out man!!! WOW!!
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[Noor]

News approved

[mitz]

Looks good.. Loved the RIMS

[Hafeexius]

Nice bike. 700cc parallel twin with auto transmission.
Makes a lot of sense for the organized chaos that we call traffic.

[rx100.7050]

Looks good.. Loved the RIMS

exactly!! Also, the all blak treatment looks DARK man.. too DARK (meaning SUPER COOL)

[tanay]

IMO Honda should stop making these stoopid oversized scooters.

[Samarth 619]

IMO Honda should stop making these stoopid oversized scooters.

+1. Agree a lot. Who's the target group for these bikes?

The newbies have the 250cc-30 bhp limit. Car owners have 125cc-15 bhp. So, not them.
The real Full-licensed bikers would love to have ratios to choose, including the girls abroad too. Not the bikers.
And the scooter users wouldn't get the same level of comfort and dress convenience on this bike.

So, maybe the target group could be... umm... old bikers? But again, like VFR somehow made it due to its auto-gear exclusivity, this might too...

[saipranav]

that thing has got about 33kmpl mileage

[nitrosatya]

Inline twin means same boring sound like the Ninja 650R, dug dug dug...
Definitely not for me.

[princesirohi]

+1. Agree a lot. Who's the target group for these bikes?

The newbies have the 250cc-30 bhp limit. Car owners have 125cc-15 bhp. So, not them.
The real Full-licensed bikers would love to have ratios to choose, including the girls abroad too. Not the bikers.
And the scooter users wouldn't get the same level of comfort and dress convenience on this bike.

So, maybe the target group could be... umm... old bikers? But again, like VFR somehow made it due to its auto-gear exclusivity, this might too...

+100... to above

[Lucky Luke]

IMO Honda should stop making these stoopid oversized scooters.

????? This bike does not look like a scooter to me!!!

From what I understand, it is using the Dual clutch Transmission, already used on the VFR 1,200F, and which gives the possibility of a full automatic (with various driving style options), or semi automatic where the driver decides of his gear shift.

I totally welcome such feature! I rather be driving a car with automatic transmission in traffic, where gear stick + clutch are a P.I.T.A., and sequential transmission (controlled from the steering wheel= even better!) is top on a windy road for a bit of "sport" driving.

Not only a SH-150 but even my (lightweight!) wife on her Honda "air blade" beats my Yam 150 Fazer at the traffic light (not for long, happily !)

Grow up, boys, and tune up with you time!

[payeng]

Looks good enough to me.

[Lucky Luke]

Looks good enough to me.

Sure looks good enough to me too

What puzzles me, however, is that the VFR 1200 http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_dZQWKob7vM...A/s1600/36.jpg uses a single arm transmission which "may" contain "some" parts like those of scooters, unless it's only a shaft, while this picture shows a chain!
On this picture too, the engine does not look like a parallel twin either, but like a V-twin!

Just wondering how accurate information about this bike is at the moment.....Let's wait and see, then!

[payeng]

Sure looks good enough to me too

What puzzles me, however, is that the VFR 1200 http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_dZQWKob7vM...A/s1600/36.jpg uses a single arm transmission which "may" contain "some" parts like those of scooters, unless it's only a shaft, while this picture shows a chain!

On this picture too, the engine does not look like a parallel twin either, but like a V-twin!

Just wondering how accurate information about this bike is at the moment.....Let's wait and see, then!

What you mean from what I understand is a CVT (Belt Driven) transmission as found in automatic scooters.

As rightly mentioned by you the VFR1200F comes with a Shaft final drive. The presence of a chain drive in the new Honda bike probably means that it does not have a CVT transmission..

..but not totally sure as models like the Yamaha Lexam has a CVT transmission but the final drive is a chain drive.

[Lucky Luke]

What you mean from what I understand is a CVT (Belt Driven) transmission as found in automatic scooters.

As rightly mentioned by you the VFR1200F comes with a Shaft final drive. The presence of a chain drive in the new Honda bike probably means that it does not have a CVT transmission..

..but not totally sure as models like the Yamaha Lexam has a CVT transmission but the final drive is a chain drive.

I do not know if it is possible, with today's available materials, to have a trapezoidal belt in between two variable width pulleys (CVT) like that of the Lexam or many other 100cc+, or even SH300, fitted on a 700cc: the high torque may not permit (???).

What it more probably is (but such test bikes very often differ from the final model) would be an electronically controlled electric motors for the gear-shift and the clutch, with a final chain transmission, or a shaft in the final version (much more expensive to make) , single arm, etc.... who knows???

About the transmission of the VFR 1,200F, I find after checking that there is effectively only a shaft and cone gear, with some reduction perhaps, but no other mechanism, torque converter or else (that's what I meant).