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Old 09-20-2009, 12:25 AM   #201 (permalink)
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Yes, that full chain cover and that 100 section tyres still remains, sadly. Heck, it isn't even a respectable 20 odd BHP (not even 18 ala P200!).

looks downright ugly on top of tat !!bad was hoping for a r15 beater but heck no wer close to it !!
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Old 09-20-2009, 12:26 AM   #202 (permalink)
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Old 09-20-2009, 12:27 AM   #203 (permalink)
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What has HH done !!!

HH seriously get some NEW designers. Your old designers are running through the designer's block.....for the last few years. Stop mating your own HH bikes with other bikes and produce these kind of offsprings. In the pictures the bike look really bad. I wish it looks better in flesh. Baby Busa...huh....maroonga ghoonsa
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Old 09-20-2009, 12:27 AM   #204 (permalink)
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Guys, Aryan bhaiya is right. I think we should see it ourselves.

I seem to like the fairing. Only that Headlight seems like GS150R with less height...

I guess it will become a greater tourer, with original Karizma's strengths, Liquid cooling and Fi.
Personally, I would have preferred Stryker or CB300R's engine. We have seen quite a lot of CRF Engine, Haven't we?
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Old 09-20-2009, 12:27 AM   #205 (permalink)
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So much of hype and this is what comes out of HH stable... Look wise old Zma is much better, performance lets wait and watch... But Dissapointed...
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Old 09-20-2009, 12:31 AM   #206 (permalink)
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1. Dont forget the old Karizma was not worth how much HH was charging. So HH have been royally fleecing the customers by selling a under equipped machine for a long long time.
2. Common even a 100cc bike nowadays has digital instrumentation and it took HH so long to add one, thus your justification of the increase in price is not justified
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1. That's why it was big success, both P200 and P220 DTSFi failed inspite of having big features/more power/so called more VFM, blah-blahs etc etc !!
2. HH need not follow competition, b'cos they offer you long term bike with best reliability and quality...and most 100cc buyers people want a bike not chinese digital stuff..
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Old 09-20-2009, 12:33 AM   #207 (permalink)
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Another highly disappointing launch from the NOTORIOUS R&D of HH.. They could atleast have tweaked the product's perfomance even when they completely ruined the old Zma's beauty...

Old Zma owners rejoice.. Your bike will live long time as a legend
That's something I was gonna quote! Cheers! ZMA/ZMA R owners, ***rock***
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i agree wat u said abt the r15...many will no longer consider it expensive




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Disappointing! This is what a 6yrs upgrade looks like? It might have been somehow ok if it was, say a 1-2 yrs upgrade. But of course, this being India, knowledgeable bikers account for only like, 1% of the total consumers. So, HH rightly did not worry about satisfying this chunk of consumers.

Great going HH. I congratulate you on not bowing down to the pressure from this segment of consumers and giving in to their demands. This way you can shunt the growth of the performance segment and continue selling the latest Splendours and Passions. (Aren't those dies too old?) I also see that you have thrown a .5 bhp insult at them as a bonus! You do know how your loyal fans will go gaga at this increase and point to them the inherent power of the engine. And the general population will simply go mad at the "Hayachusa" fairing. How thoughtful of you to cater to the demands of the posers. And I know too how you will sneer at those pesky xBhpians a month down the line and say - "Didn't I say this was exactly what Indian bikers wanted". If by some freak chance, this bike does not generate sales as anticipated, you always can bring down the price by a couple of grands and slap on some garish colours (isn't pink the new black?) as a bonus. Isn't that the real reason for the price hike? Also, you have to gather the funds for that Hrithik Roshan dance show, oops ad? Sure, we understand. So, this bike can stay on for a couple of years more and destroy the well deserved reputation the original Zma has, just like you did with the original CBZ. Finally thing will come a full circle.

Ofcourse, this is all business. Who am I fooling? It is evident that HH just doesn't care about building a reputation in the performance segment. And the R15 suddenly looks much VFM! If not for anything else, thank you HH for just that.
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1. That's why it was big success, both P200 and P220 DTSFi failed inspite of having big features/more power/so called more VFM, blah-blahs etc etc !!
2. HH need not follow competition, b'cos they offer you long term bike with best reliability and quality...and most 100cc buyers people want a bike not chinese digital stuff..
Franky, don't you ever get bored of your fan boy stuffs? I mean there is a limit to how many times you can repeat the same stuffs over and over, isn't it?
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1. That's why it was big success, both P200 and P220 DTSFi failed inspite of having big features/more power/so called more VFM, blah-blahs etc etc !!
200 was a flop?
dude do you know the sales figure of pulsar?
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