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  • Originally posted by riazmomin View Post
    I would definetly not blame Hero Honda because they dont have any R&D except claimed Sticker R & D, So I never exect performance bikes from them.

    But what could be the problem with other Manufracturers who seems to have their own R&D. Definelty there are certain reasons that are stopping them that might be out of our reach.
    i guess there are other two indian companies trying their best to develop and launch in-house performance bikes...
    pulsar 220 dts-fi clocks 145kmph!
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i8SPjGtkRWo

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    • I hate the new looks.

      Like:
      Clip ons, digi gizmos, rear disk and gas shocks.

      Hate:
      Fairing (!), odd looking headlamp, new silencer and CBZ/Hunk rear transplant.

      They could have upgraded the crappy rear tyre as well.

      Also, the engine still makes its peak bhp at 7000 rpm, I wonder if it still redlines at ~8.2k?

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      • Originally posted by myg124 View Post
        HH has always paid attention to style and looks
        they have paid over-attention to it..
        pulsar 220 dts-fi clocks 145kmph!
        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i8SPjGtkRWo

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        • Originally posted by riazmomin View Post
          I would definetly not blame Hero Honda because they dont have any R&D except claimed Sticker R & D, So I never exect performance bikes from them.

          But what could be the problem with other Manufracturers who seems to have their own R&D. Definelty there are certain reasons that are stopping them that might be out of our reach.
          They now also have PGMFI R&D .

          exactly my point . what about suzuki , honda ? bajaj ? with its tie ups with KTM and kawasaki ? why cant they bring a f****ng 250/300/400 cc REAL bike which they can assemble here or even manufacture a few components . and yamaha ? they launched an awesome bike with no power and a pocket bike which they further divided into 3 variants . which now has "special" paint schemes .

          People like me will either have to earn a fortune and buy a bike when im 40 . which would probably be electric. or if my dad hits a jackpot...
          Sorry for the OT post .

          new ZMA is welcome . analog tacho and monoshock would have been good .
          Chrome rims and bling ? get a real life !

          http://www.facebook.com/GTR33

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          • Looks part I really can't comment, but seeing mobile phone pictures, HH has done pretty good job....I don't think some of the critics here will really buy HH product even if it look better ?!

            Coming to the most important part of the bike...obviously... Zma mill + PGMFi ...will blow away the competition in terms of engine refinement and even smoother power delivery....plus the bike will become bit more fuel-efficient than the carb Zma-R.

            Pricing if true is bit higher side, but it's kind of justfied if we see additions like (additional cost only)
            1. PGMFi (say Rs.10000),
            2. Rear dics (say Rs.2000)
            3. Clip-ons(say Rs.500)
            4. Console(say Rs.3000),
            5. GRS (say Rs.500),
            6. Front fairing/headlight/Full fairing (say it's worth Rs.6,000)
            7. etc etc
            All adds roughly to 22K on which price is quoted....

            Mind you guys...these will be of top notch quality (not imported from III rate Chinese/Taiwanese company)
            Last edited by vipin_s; 09-19-2009, 11:50 PM.

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            • wtf .... hh are you in recession ???

              Hero honda ................... whats with you guys !! first it was paint and sticker job .... now its paint + sticker + .5 bhp increase ???

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              • I think we had too much expectation from an indian manufacturer entirely dependent on big daddy Honda.

                What matters for Hero Honda is profit. I am sure they would have done proper home work before launching the bike. There are many guys out there who would buy the bike for its looks.

                The console is great. I do not like the fairing. I hope the bike is very smooth with FI. It is not value for money like its competitor if you compare the features, but still a very reliable and comfortable bike in the segment. As it comes from Hero Honda, I am sure the quality would be good.

                Quality comes at a price!!
                Last edited by PatienceWins; 09-19-2009, 11:57 PM.

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                • Only three things looks better to me
                  Speedo Console
                  Handle Bars
                  Tail light Assembly
                  Never upgrade without getting your basics RIGHT.

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                  • gross!!! by looking at the red zmr, it looks as if its a zma which has been modified by some downmarket mechanic in karol bagh

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                    • Originally posted by PatienceWins View Post
                      I think we had too much expectation from an indian manufacturer entirely dependent on big daddy Honda.

                      What matters for Hero Honda is profit. I am sure they would have done proper home work before launching the bike. There are many guys out there who would buy the bike for its looks.

                      The console is great. I do not like the fairing. I hope the bike is very smooth with FI. It is not value for money like its competitor if you compare the features, but still a very reliable and comfortable bike in the segment. As it comes from Hero Honda, I am sure the quality would be good.

                      Quality comes at a price!!
                      +1 ...almost typed your words an hour back....power went off !!

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                      • Originally posted by ravi@17bhp View Post
                        Now I got to see them.

                        First thing that came to my mind after seeing the headlight shape is, the insect face, and I felt the same when I saw P220's headlight first. Now, they are very much like siblings.

                        The speedo console is awesome.

                        I do not want to comment on the looks till I see it on road.
                        Originally posted by riazmomin View Post
                        Personally I too liked the looks, But Still would love to see this bike in flesh to give a proper justification to the words I say rather than throwing mouth around.
                        HH Bikes are not that photogenic...
                        I'm sure, the ZMR would look gr8 in flesh...

                        And I hope the specs news is incorrect

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                        • hmm expected ! now will R15 beat Zmr or will zmr score over p220 and R15 lets see !
                          pulsar 150 - 02

                          unicorn150 - 04

                          apache150 - 06

                          cbz ext - 08

                          Yzf R15 - 09

                          ninja 250 - 10

                          Twister - 11

                          Passion xpro -14

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                          • With a programmable fuel injection , we can expect good increase later on dono what the bike is still capable of ...... we ought to wait..guys don be disappointed pls ...
                            My BiKe DoEsN't LeAk OiL, iT mArK's ItS TeRriToRy !

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                            • Any insider from HH watching this thread?
                              Then go and ask your Boss(s) also to take a look here and let them also know what Indian bikers think

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                              • Originally posted by Nio View Post
                                Any insider from HH watching this thread?
                                Then go and ask your Boss(s) also to take a look here and let them also know what Indian bikers think
                                95% of indian bikers (average indian) think about 100cc bikes
                                2007 - Hero Honda CBZ Xtreme
                                2008 - Yamaha YZF R15
                                2009 - Hero Honda CBZ Xtreme
                                2013 - KTM 390 Duke
                                2017 - Yamaha FZ25

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