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  • Originally posted by vipin_s View Post
    Looks part I really can't comment, but seeing mobile phone pictures, HH has done pretty good job....I don't think some of the critics here will really buy HH product even if it look better ?!

    Coming to the most important part of the bike...obviously... Zma mill + PGMFi ...will blow away the competition in terms of engine refinement and even smoother power delivery....plus the bike will become bit more fuel-efficient than the carb Zma-R.

    Pricing if true is bit higher side, but it's kind of justfied if we see additions like (additional cost only)
    1. PGMFi (say Rs.10000),
    2. Rear dics (say Rs.2000)
    3. Clip-ons(say Rs.500)
    4. Console(say Rs.3000),
    5. GRS (say Rs.500),
    6. Front fairing/headlight/Full fairing (say it's worth Rs.6,000)
    7. etc etc
    All adds roughly to 22K on which price is quoted....

    Mind you guys...these will be of top notch quality (not imported from III rate Chinese/Taiwanese company)
    Dont forget the old Karizma was not worth how much HH was charging. So HH have been royally fleecing the customers by selling a under equipped machine for a long long time. Common even a 100cc bike nowadays has digital instrumentation and it took HH so long to add one, thus your justification of the increase in price is not justified

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    • Originally posted by Aryan View Post
      @Shivank: NOWHERE in my post above did I say just blindly buy or approve what's being "thrown" at us, so called breed of premium bikers. What I am trying to say is, now that the looks have been beaten to death with since afternoon today, let us hope that ATLEAST the performance makes up for the looks! Also, an official spec-sheet from Hero Honda would really be good.
      My bad!..
      I got the picture now...

      But if R15 with 17ps could blow competition away.Then why are we crying so loud of ZMA's spec not being too exciting?..may be power:weight ratio is troubling us!
      If you ride like there's no tomorrow...worry not there won't be!

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      • Originally posted by raman sriharsha View Post
        hero honda broke all my dreams...my xpecation was vain
        +1

        Originally posted by RascalAngel View Post
        Ugly.Period!
        The birth of the ZMR in pictures:
        yup ! ugly as hell.

        Originally posted by NJ7 View Post
        even vth a carburetted engine d zma wz super smooth..
        d new one vth pgm-fi z gonna b super butter smooth...coupld vth oil/liquid cooling,,itz gonna b d ultimate in terms of refinement..
        it should better be coz the ugly huge fairing adverting the bikers to sm other alternatives !
        Originally posted by ashes View Post
        i don't wanna say anything about the looks but the cockpit looks very good!! with the new console and clipons
        yeah ! "the only good pic" said it! every thing else is in pit!

        Originally posted by Puneet1 View Post
        Am i the only one who prefers analog tachos instead of the digital ones ?
        wished HH had put a analog tacho on this bike otherwise console looks fabolous
        i prefer analog too , the needle turns ur adrenalin like nothing , i can remember HH admitting they can come up with better technology but want to stick to the analog. so why they did it when they were thinking right!

        Originally posted by motorheadZMA View Post
        Really disappointed with the looks.now all im intrested is in upgrading the shockers on my bike to ZMR's if thats possible.
        wait ZMR can have much better use .. like u can swap clip-ons too .

        Originally posted by gauravbalu View Post
        they have paid over-attention to it..
        it seems so or they were brain washed by fanbois of faired SBKs!

        Originally posted by ron_7933 View Post
        gross!!! by looking at the red zmr, it looks as if its a zma which has been modified by some downmarket mechanic in karol bagh
        yeah ! ur right!

        Originally posted by vishu View Post
        Fairing looks like a single piece not like R15
        Thats the most ugly part of it (zmr)!


        all and all i feel HH filled us with indignation with this launch! as this discussion is more like we cursing HH lol!
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        • I still remember people did not like the looks of the Zma when it was launched, or even the 220 and the cbz xtreeme.Looks are subjective,

          I am not sure how this bike will handle rough terrain when you tour - looks bulky.

          it still has the age old mill which is good but HH could have worked on it .the .7 bump in BHP might be because of the FI kit as well.the bike will be heavier than the old Zma, so not sure what the Power to weight ratio will be.at least it has an FI kit and a rear disk brake (one wonder the price of the disk pad- 7k maybe.I hope HH has the old zma's sold as well.they can have the carb and the fi Zma,
          The carb zma still sells like hot cakes because of it's pricing.want a good 200+ cc Indian bike - my choice is the 220- total VFM

          P.S I own a ZMA r

          The upgrades I wanted as a Zma owner was - same looks - don't touch something which is good.FI kit, rear disk brakes, tubeless tyres and a projector headlamp.

          LED tail, clip on's black exhaust were not really important but enhances a product.
          Last edited by steveburnside2001; 09-20-2009, 01:27 AM.
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          • Originally posted by ravi@17bhp View Post
            But, one thing I want to comment; 'the rear of the old Zma is still better'

            I disagree!! I'd infact say that the OLD ZMA overall is anyday better than the new one! Damn! Disappointed...
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            • Originally posted by Aryan View Post
              Yes, that full chain cover and that 100 section tyres still remains, sadly. Heck, it isn't even a respectable 20 odd BHP (not even 18 ala P200!).

              looks downright ugly on top of tat !!bad was hoping for a r15 beater but heck no wer close to it !!
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              • bhai ZMR ne to zee mar diya.
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                • What has HH done !!!

                  HH seriously get some NEW designers. Your old designers are running through the designer's block.....for the last few years. Stop mating your own HH bikes with other bikes and produce these kind of offsprings. In the pictures the bike look really bad. I wish it looks better in flesh. Baby Busa...huh....maroonga ghoonsa
                  Enna Rascalla. Mind it !!!

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                  • Guys, Aryan bhaiya is right. I think we should see it ourselves.

                    I seem to like the fairing. Only that Headlight seems like GS150R with less height...

                    I guess it will become a greater tourer, with original Karizma's strengths, Liquid cooling and Fi.
                    Personally, I would have preferred Stryker or CB300R's engine. We have seen quite a lot of CRF Engine, Haven't we?
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                    • So much of hype and this is what comes out of HH stable... Look wise old Zma is much better, performance lets wait and watch... But Dissapointed...

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                      • Originally posted by BUSA@TEAM-BHP View Post
                        1. Dont forget the old Karizma was not worth how much HH was charging. So HH have been royally fleecing the customers by selling a under equipped machine for a long long time.
                        2. Common even a 100cc bike nowadays has digital instrumentation and it took HH so long to add one, thus your justification of the increase in price is not justified
                        Just my .5hp
                        1. That's why it was big success, both P200 and P220 DTSFi failed inspite of having big features/more power/so called more VFM, blah-blahs etc etc !!
                        2. HH need not follow competition, b'cos they offer you long term bike with best reliability and quality...and most 100cc buyers people want a bike not chinese digital stuff..

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                        • Originally posted by Nio View Post
                          +infinity
                          Another highly disappointing launch from the NOTORIOUS R&D of HH.. They could atleast have tweaked the product's perfomance even when they completely ruined the old Zma's beauty...

                          Old Zma owners rejoice.. Your bike will live long time as a legend
                          That's something I was gonna quote! Cheers! ZMA/ZMA R owners, ***rock***
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                          • i agree wat u said abt the r15...many will no longer consider it expensive




                            Originally posted by abhijeet080808 View Post
                            Disappointing! This is what a 6yrs upgrade looks like? It might have been somehow ok if it was, say a 1-2 yrs upgrade. But of course, this being India, knowledgeable bikers account for only like, 1% of the total consumers. So, HH rightly did not worry about satisfying this chunk of consumers.

                            Great going HH. I congratulate you on not bowing down to the pressure from this segment of consumers and giving in to their demands. This way you can shunt the growth of the performance segment and continue selling the latest Splendours and Passions. (Aren't those dies too old?) I also see that you have thrown a .5 bhp insult at them as a bonus! You do know how your loyal fans will go gaga at this increase and point to them the inherent power of the engine. And the general population will simply go mad at the "Hayachusa" fairing. How thoughtful of you to cater to the demands of the posers. And I know too how you will sneer at those pesky xBhpians a month down the line and say - "Didn't I say this was exactly what Indian bikers wanted". If by some freak chance, this bike does not generate sales as anticipated, you always can bring down the price by a couple of grands and slap on some garish colours (isn't pink the new black?) as a bonus. Isn't that the real reason for the price hike? Also, you have to gather the funds for that Hrithik Roshan dance show, oops ad? Sure, we understand. So, this bike can stay on for a couple of years more and destroy the well deserved reputation the original Zma has, just like you did with the original CBZ. Finally thing will come a full circle.

                            Ofcourse, this is all business. Who am I fooling? It is evident that HH just doesn't care about building a reputation in the performance segment. And the R15 suddenly looks much VFM! If not for anything else, thank you HH for just that.

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                            • Originally posted by vipin_s View Post
                              1. That's why it was big success, both P200 and P220 DTSFi failed inspite of having big features/more power/so called more VFM, blah-blahs etc etc !!
                              2. HH need not follow competition, b'cos they offer you long term bike with best reliability and quality...and most 100cc buyers people want a bike not chinese digital stuff..
                              Franky, don't you ever get bored of your fan boy stuffs? I mean there is a limit to how many times you can repeat the same stuffs over and over, isn't it?
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                              • Originally posted by vipin_s View Post
                                1. That's why it was big success, both P200 and P220 DTSFi failed inspite of having big features/more power/so called more VFM, blah-blahs etc etc !!
                                200 was a flop?
                                dude do you know the sales figure of pulsar?
                                pulsar 220 dts-fi clocks 145kmph!
                                http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i8SPjGtkRWo

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