As many people have pointed out correctly, sometimes images can be misleading and the actual bike may look better too. In fact many times, the looks grow on you.
The only major issue here is the spec sheet. I liked the fairing though. Looks much better integrated than the 220. The integration looks somewhat similar to that of the Stunner.

Though what you say makes sense and is appreciated, but the 0.6 BHP increase can be neutralized with the new fairing = more weight + aerodynamic drag (if not designed properly; which is probably impossible)

BTW, any idea on the torque?

Yea you are right .

I just saw the pics . The bike still does not have a projector

The 0.6 bhp would even be suppressed under that .
this is the specs given by our member .

If these are the specs . Then I am really disappointed .

Why does this bike look like a mix of P220 n R15 ??

The PGM-Fi should have given some extra power/ability to the bike..... hope so ....!

Who is better.. Bajaj or Hero Honda

Looking at most of the replies.. Let me clarify who is better and who is posing to be better by providing some simple examples & data... aka FACTS.

It seems that HH fans will keep on supporting HH and Bajaj Fans will keep on supporting Bajaj. This pig fight will continue and there will be no end result.
Lets talk about engineering. HH & Bajaj.. both are engineering companies. Products of both the companies depend on engineering only.

Engineering Companies in this world are driven by INNOVATION. Who ever is more innovative ultimately rules the market. History tells that most innovative companies in this world have survived the toughest times. If you happen to work for an Engineering company.. you know how much important INNOVATION is. A company has to constantly innovate to survive in market. Times are over when companies kept fooling customers by providing products which were nothing but old wine in new bottle.

BMW, Volkswagon, Toyota, Fiat, Merc, Honda, Yamaha etc... are not great companies because they have great products. Rather they are great companies because they have persistently driven innovation. Thats why they have great products. They have invented new technologies and made this world better place to live, made their products better over previous generations. Every year these companies have allocated R&D investments to come out with improved version of their existing technology. They spend time and efforts in doing something new and lure customers by shwoing how much innovative they are. Thats why people respect the brands.

Talking in Indian context... the economy is maturing... and people are getting more educated.. They know what they want and who is doing what. This is KNOWLEDGE ECONOMY. Thanks to Internet and TV and Media. More and more people read, watch, compare, discuss and understand whats good and whats bad. Information is more accessible and you can compare and decide on the products. You can see and realize that who is doing good... and who is doing better.

Lets take an example of Tata Motors. Tata Motors was not considered to be an innovative company. Till the time Tata was making Indica... nobody in this world took notice of their products. It was not respected and honoured company.. till the time they intorduced NANO. Nano not only brought fame, honour and sheer respect for company. Not because of Nano.. but because they could innovate to come out with Nano which is the best example across the world for FRUGAL ENGINEERING. Tata innovated and strived hard to provide a Lowest Cost car to the world. So what if it has got some problems. Nothing in this world is perfect. Things improve with time... and not overnight.

So to sum it up... In coming decades companies & brands will be respected for their innovation... and the efforts they put in Improving their products. Providing ALL NEW STUFF to people. Respect comes from within when companies come out with something new and exceed your expectations. Best example.. again.. Tata Nano.

One more thing When any company innovates.. they try to stop others from using their technology. Else whole investement on R&D will be wasted. So the company tries to get legal certification that they own the technology and bar others from using that. This legal certification or rights is called PATENT.

Now lets come back to Hero Honda. Can anybody from whole XBHP give me an EXAMPLE for INNOVATION from HERO HONDA. I bet you cant. Because they DONT INNOVATE. They buy the Technology from HONDA. I have performed a simple search for you guys.

Try this Link - Hero Honda

Hero Honda has no Patents.. that means they dont innovate. So no respect. Because building things from outside and selling dont make you a respectable brand. I tried numerous searches for Hero Honda Patents. couldnt get any.

Coming to Bajaj. Try this Link - Bajaj Auto

I guess this justifies that.. Bajaj can be respected more than Hero Honda. similarly TVS, Yamaha, Kawasaki can also be respected. They do things on their own. They INNOVATE and strive to improve their products.

Great companies do great innovation.

Last example.. - When you were in school or college... If some of your classmate cheated and scored high marks... you still felt satsified because you worked hard, put genuine efforts and didnt depend on chits & other classmates... And when it came to respect.... you were respected more than that cheater... since you worked hard yourself and didnt depend on chits. In the long run you came out to be more successful because you had studied the stuff on your own.. and were not dependent on chits and classmates.

Here the cheater is Hero Group. Classmate is HONDA. And you are BAJAJ.

Period.

^^Well said. Thanks for the info.

Ditto!!!..

The previous Karizma was a great looker, why did they mess it up!? Now it looks like some chinese cheap plastic bike.

Anyways, any new engines for the karizma after 220cc?

Very well said there. Bajaj makes some bikes for customer too, Hero makes all bikes for its shareholders.

very well pendowned downed..!!
Thanks for sharing..!!

correction.. HONDA is the MENTOR for HERO and not a classmate..

1. There are no HH fans, only Honda lovers and admirers !
2. HH gets innovative products through it's affiliation, people don't care for no. of sqft dedicated to RnD centre or how many patents a company has, but just product. BTW, patenting old ideas is not innovation.
3. It's not possible to win market month after month and year after year w/o so called 'innovation', HH products are matured and innovated product which needs no trail n error experimentation on people.
4. Whatever respect you give I care a damn, HH is one of the most reputed Indian companies..
5. Agreed, what was your point ?
6. Crap !

Between the old and new zma , I would prefer to pick the older one

But on the brighter side , in the new zmr
1.We can do with the front look
2.Console is ripped from a space ship
3.The weird fairing looks great in black as it hides the lines
4.Rear is also ok , we'll get used to it
5.Fairing mounted RVM's - I hope they are useful , looks great
6.Fi - should make it an even better touring machine
7.LC? - Not sure if it has it but a welcome change
8.Projectors? - Can't see them but if the headlight is 55W + , great for touring
9.I hope new stock tires are fatter than older ones , and tubeless of course
10.Addition of rear disk was much needed

About the looks , as some of you have pointed out , lets wait for it to hit the roads , it might grow on us with time just like what happened with the 220.

Another example of "HH fans will keep on supporting HH and BAJAJ fans will keep on supporting BAJAJ! This pig fight will continue and there would be on end result!!!"

Definetly HH brand had launched some memorable products but the fact is- those products are always a lended idea of its mentors!
For me HH brand (xcept ZMA, CBZ CLASSIC and CBZ STAR) always resembled a specific category of people who just carry their lazy ass from Point A to point B in a ever so rouetinic manner.

Nor Bajaj were very good either!
Serving the New Wine in old bottle is not a gud idea.
For me all the Pulsars right from a 150 to 220 LOOKED the same, except some minor changes!
And thats definetly not a wise move. Watever are the specs atlast but the new wine should only be served in a new packing!

TVS did some real hard work, re-emerging in the market with a wise move really derived from the race track lessons but the APACHE 180 was a mistake!
A new RTR sticker on the bikini fairings wont bring the customers, and they have had learned it from the recent sales of 180!
Hoping that this time they would blend customer market lesson and race track lessons together to bring a state-of-art product!

i don't understand why u guys over expect on hh and end in disappointing as u all know there is no proper r&D for hh and their relationship with h is coming to end
i highly doubt will it do 135 and comes at 91k
by seeing stunner fi price pgmfi alone should cost 8-10k and for disk brake 2-3k and if u add LC and price is goes on & on

talking about innovation...
when companies where dishing out 100cc's in masses...when people where made to believe that an indian consumer cannot handle more than 100cc,a company launched a performance bike...purely for the enthusiasists..
the company was HH and the bike CBZ..
then others also joined in..then the condition changed..the saturation point was changed to 150cc..180 was only for d pure performance freak and anything above that was never to b expected in indian market..
then a company launched a new genre..200+ segment..the company was HH and the bike Karizma..
even after this 6 years,even with the so called "innovations" rival companies can only match upto zma..never beat it convincingly...even after 6 years when u think about a perfect indian bike,karizma comes into ones mind..
and about innovation..what is the use of dts-i,exhaustec with consumers still cribbing about the reliability factor??
only one thing that can be called as an innovation(as to the indian market) was the launch of dts-fi..then bajaj came up with a blunder by pulling it back and launching a carburetted version..what was that all about??is carburetter the latest technology??great innovation..
one thing i wanna say is..whatever HH do..their bikes are reliable..ZMA may not be the fastest indian..but it is the perfect tourer..
HH has always been innovative in launching new segments,rather than new technologies..ZMR will launch new segment of 220cc+,oil/liquid cooled tourers with fi..and they'l never pull back the bike from market saying that carburetter is the future..
if bajaj has to be innovative..they'll have to shed the habit of matching cc by cc to hh..
p150 for cbz,,p220 for zma..
come up with some thing of their own..launch a new segment..maybe 250cc++..with some reliability factor as well..
but till then..HH rulesss...