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Old 02-16-2011, 11:49 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Red face Burnout .........failing.

Hello,
I started liking the Burnout stunt recently very much, and had also attempted it but I am failing everytime.

Well, I am a short height rider, I cannot reach both sides of my bike simultaneously and only my boot tips touch the ground at best.The seat height of my bike is 790mm, so when I stand up, it goes without saying that I am keeping the bike on one foot.

Even then I tried Burn-out with on foot down.

This is how I attempted it:
1.I started the bike and revved upto 6000 rpms.
2.Pulled in the front brake and held it there hard.
3.Pulled in the clutch.
4.Shifted to first gear.
5.Popped the clutch.

What happened is that the bike just jumps ahead after its rear spins once or twice sideways.It happens everytime.No matter how hard I brake or try to keep the weight forward on the high handlebars,the bike keeps going forward even with the front disc squeezed to the max.

Result is,I get more black marks on the tarmac from the front wheel rather than rear wheel

Please help me with some advice as to how a short rider like me can attempt a Burn-out successfully.
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Old 02-17-2011, 12:02 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Old 02-17-2011, 12:13 PM   #3 (permalink)
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In which bike are you trying to do the burnout?
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In which bike are you trying to do the burnout?
Suzuki GS 150R if I'm right!
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Hello,
I started liking the Burnout stunt recently very much, and had also attempted it but I am failing everytime.

Well, I am a short height rider, I cannot reach both sides of my bike simultaneously and only my boot tips touch the ground at best.The seat height of my bike is 790mm, so when I stand up, it goes without saying that I am keeping the bike on one foot.

Even then I tried Burn-out with on foot down.

This is how I attempted it:
1.I started the bike and revved upto 6000 rpms.
2.Pulled in the front brake and held it there hard.
3.Pulled in the clutch.
4.Shifted to first gear.
5.Popped the clutch.

What happened is that the bike just jumps ahead after its rear spins once or twice sideways.It happens everytime.No matter how hard I brake or try to keep the weight forward on the high handlebars,the bike keeps going forward even with the front disc squeezed to the max.

Result is,I get more black marks on the tarmac from the front wheel rather than rear wheel

Please help me with some advice as to how a short rider like me can attempt a Burn-out successfully.
It seems ur bike's rear tyre is having a superb grip

The Attempt u mentioned is ok, but Try the following:

Let ur rear tyre to loose it traction during the initial spinning, for this u can place ur rear tyre on a small patch of water/ oil (mind u, a very small patch), while u hold the front brake and both ur feet should touch the ground and ease-off ur weight on the bike. apply first gear & throttle so the rear tyre starts to spin, then push the bike side ways slightly. after a few attempts, u can get it done.
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Hello,
I started liking the Burnout stunt recently very much, and had also attempted it but I am failing everytime.

Well, I am a short height rider, I cannot reach both sides of my bike simultaneously and only my boot tips touch the ground at best.The seat height of my bike is 790mm, so when I stand up, it goes without saying that I am keeping the bike on one foot.

Even then I tried Burn-out with on foot down.

This is how I attempted it:
1.I started the bike and revved upto 6000 rpms.
2.Pulled in the front brake and held it there hard.
3.Pulled in the clutch.
4.Shifted to first gear.
5.Popped the clutch.

What happened is that the bike just jumps ahead after its rear spins once or twice sideways.It happens everytime.No matter how hard I brake or try to keep the weight forward on the high handlebars,the bike keeps going forward even with the front disc squeezed to the max.

Result is,I get more black marks on the tarmac from the front wheel rather than rear wheel

Please help me with some advice as to how a short rider like me can attempt a Burn-out successfully.
Try putting more body weight on the front portion of the bike rather than the rear portion. Also, dont just pop the clutch, release it smoothly so that there is enough momentum that has been developed.

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Maybe you can start trying with a shorter bike(i:e if you are using the GS150).

Another thing that you can try is, spread some sand etc under the rear tyre(but that could harm the tyre - hmmmmm well anyways that is what a burnout does), just enough to get that initial slip.

One more option, let the front tyre touch a wall/boulder etc until you learn the art.

How about a rolling burnout - go at a slow speed - 20kmph maybe, and as you slowdown, lean on the handlebar completely with your feet on the footrest just for the same of it and ur entire weight on on the handlebar/tank, squeeze the front brake gently(so that you dont end up doing a stoppie instead) and just when it is about to come to a halt, open up the throttle.
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@ Yaser its better if the TS does to learn a static burnout first.

@ TS - U can also try putting some soap water under the rear tyre. Jam your front brake get the throttle upto 6 or 7 K mark and release the throttle slowly only till the point where the rear tyre starts rotating slowly. When the rear wheel starts rotating keep the clutch in that position only and enjoy the smoke.
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Some tips from me to your query,

1. Practice spinning your tyre in front of wall (Front tyre blocked by wall)

2. Try putting your body weight on tank

3. No need to pop the clutch just hold you break tight and rev hard

4. Start your burnout slow once tyre starts moving then just hold it tight and revv hard as much as you can till the time your satisfied with the smoke
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while u hold the front brake and both ur feet should touch the ground and ease-off ur weight on the bike.
Now that is what I am not being able to do, both my feet does'nt reach the ground at the same time,I think I am not being able to ease off my weight off the bike due to this.

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Try putting more body weight on the front portion of the bike rather than the rear portion.
With highish handlebars and lowish height of mine, this can be an issue.

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Maybe you can start trying with a shorter bike(i:e if you are using the GS150).
Would use the Suzuki Fiero this time.........but this bike has no rev indicator(tachometer) that would make it a little difficult for a beginner like me.

However, the rolling burn-out seemed to be a nice technique, would try that out surely as I can ride standing on the footpegs for hours

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@ TS - U can also try putting some soap water under the rear tyre. Jam your front brake get the throttle upto 6 or 7 K mark and release the throttle slowly only till the point where the rear tyre starts rotating slowly. When the rear wheel starts rotating keep the clutch in that position only and enjoy the smoke.
I did not quite understand this part of the technique, are you trying to say that I should lower revs for a burnout ???


@viraj s85: I would try all techniques and try to get the best of the results.


After going through all the insights of a burnout it seems to me that I would be able to execute a correct burnout only on a vehicle where I can stand up and put some weight on the front during the process.So, burnout by me on a tall bike or on the GS may not be possible.

But I thought that there must be some technique by which a shorter person can execute it well by standing only on one foot.


This Yamaha FZ16 video shows that the stunt rider does a burn out with one foot down after he begins with both foot down
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