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  • Burnout .........failing.

    Hello,
    I started liking the Burnout stunt recently very much, and had also attempted it but I am failing everytime.

    Well, I am a short height rider, I cannot reach both sides of my bike simultaneously and only my boot tips touch the ground at best.The seat height of my bike is 790mm, so when I stand up, it goes without saying that I am keeping the bike on one foot.

    Even then I tried Burn-out with on foot down.

    This is how I attempted it:
    1.I started the bike and revved upto 6000 rpms.
    2.Pulled in the front brake and held it there hard.
    3.Pulled in the clutch.
    4.Shifted to first gear.
    5.Popped the clutch.

    What happened is that the bike just jumps ahead after its rear spins once or twice sideways.It happens everytime.No matter how hard I brake or try to keep the weight forward on the high handlebars,the bike keeps going forward even with the front disc squeezed to the max.

    Result is,I get more black marks on the tarmac from the front wheel rather than rear wheel

    Please help me with some advice as to how a short rider like me can attempt a Burn-out successfully.
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    • #3
      In which bike are you trying to do the burnout?
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      • #4
        Originally posted by Lonely Rider View Post
        In which bike are you trying to do the burnout?
        Suzuki GS 150R if I'm right!
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        • #5
          Originally posted by MACH50 View Post
          Hello,
          I started liking the Burnout stunt recently very much, and had also attempted it but I am failing everytime.

          Well, I am a short height rider, I cannot reach both sides of my bike simultaneously and only my boot tips touch the ground at best.The seat height of my bike is 790mm, so when I stand up, it goes without saying that I am keeping the bike on one foot.

          Even then I tried Burn-out with on foot down.

          This is how I attempted it:
          1.I started the bike and revved upto 6000 rpms.
          2.Pulled in the front brake and held it there hard.
          3.Pulled in the clutch.
          4.Shifted to first gear.
          5.Popped the clutch.

          What happened is that the bike just jumps ahead after its rear spins once or twice sideways.It happens everytime.No matter how hard I brake or try to keep the weight forward on the high handlebars,the bike keeps going forward even with the front disc squeezed to the max.

          Result is,I get more black marks on the tarmac from the front wheel rather than rear wheel

          Please help me with some advice as to how a short rider like me can attempt a Burn-out successfully.
          It seems ur bike's rear tyre is having a superb grip

          The Attempt u mentioned is ok, but Try the following:

          Let ur rear tyre to loose it traction during the initial spinning, for this u can place ur rear tyre on a small patch of water/ oil (mind u, a very small patch), while u hold the front brake and both ur feet should touch the ground and ease-off ur weight on the bike. apply first gear & throttle so the rear tyre starts to spin, then push the bike side ways slightly. after a few attempts, u can get it done.
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          • #6
            Originally posted by MACH50 View Post
            Hello,
            I started liking the Burnout stunt recently very much, and had also attempted it but I am failing everytime.

            Well, I am a short height rider, I cannot reach both sides of my bike simultaneously and only my boot tips touch the ground at best.The seat height of my bike is 790mm, so when I stand up, it goes without saying that I am keeping the bike on one foot.

            Even then I tried Burn-out with on foot down.

            This is how I attempted it:
            1.I started the bike and revved upto 6000 rpms.
            2.Pulled in the front brake and held it there hard.
            3.Pulled in the clutch.
            4.Shifted to first gear.
            5.Popped the clutch.

            What happened is that the bike just jumps ahead after its rear spins once or twice sideways.It happens everytime.No matter how hard I brake or try to keep the weight forward on the high handlebars,the bike keeps going forward even with the front disc squeezed to the max.

            Result is,I get more black marks on the tarmac from the front wheel rather than rear wheel

            Please help me with some advice as to how a short rider like me can attempt a Burn-out successfully.
            Try putting more body weight on the front portion of the bike rather than the rear portion. Also, dont just pop the clutch, release it smoothly so that there is enough momentum that has been developed.

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            • #7
              Maybe you can start trying with a shorter bike(i:e if you are using the GS150).

              Another thing that you can try is, spread some sand etc under the rear tyre(but that could harm the tyre - hmmmmm well anyways that is what a burnout does), just enough to get that initial slip.

              One more option, let the front tyre touch a wall/boulder etc until you learn the art.

              How about a rolling burnout - go at a slow speed - 20kmph maybe, and as you slowdown, lean on the handlebar completely with your feet on the footrest just for the same of it and ur entire weight on on the handlebar/tank, squeeze the front brake gently(so that you dont end up doing a stoppie instead) and just when it is about to come to a halt, open up the throttle.

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              • #8
                @ Yaser its better if the TS does to learn a static burnout first.

                @ TS - U can also try putting some soap water under the rear tyre. Jam your front brake get the throttle upto 6 or 7 K mark and release the throttle slowly only till the point where the rear tyre starts rotating slowly. When the rear wheel starts rotating keep the clutch in that position only and enjoy the smoke.

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                • #9
                  Some tips from me to your query,

                  1. Practice spinning your tyre in front of wall (Front tyre blocked by wall)

                  2. Try putting your body weight on tank

                  3. No need to pop the clutch just hold you break tight and rev hard

                  4. Start your burnout slow once tyre starts moving then just hold it tight and revv hard as much as you can till the time your satisfied with the smoke

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by dual disc 200 View Post
                    Suzuki GS 150R if I'm right!
                    It is.

                    Originally posted by frankpilli View Post
                    while u hold the front brake and both ur feet should touch the ground and ease-off ur weight on the bike.
                    Now that is what I am not being able to do, both my feet does'nt reach the ground at the same time,I think I am not being able to ease off my weight off the bike due to this.

                    Originally posted by shane#1 View Post
                    Try putting more body weight on the front portion of the bike rather than the rear portion.
                    With highish handlebars and lowish height of mine, this can be an issue.

                    Originally posted by yaser_kb100 View Post
                    Maybe you can start trying with a shorter bike(i:e if you are using the GS150).
                    Would use the Suzuki Fiero this time.........but this bike has no rev indicator(tachometer) that would make it a little difficult for a beginner like me.

                    However, the rolling burn-out seemed to be a nice technique, would try that out surely as I can ride standing on the footpegs for hours

                    Originally posted by xstunter View Post
                    @ TS - U can also try putting some soap water under the rear tyre. Jam your front brake get the throttle upto 6 or 7 K mark and release the throttle slowly only till the point where the rear tyre starts rotating slowly. When the rear wheel starts rotating keep the clutch in that position only and enjoy the smoke.
                    I did not quite understand this part of the technique, are you trying to say that I should lower revs for a burnout ???


                    @viraj s85: I would try all techniques and try to get the best of the results.


                    After going through all the insights of a burnout it seems to me that I would be able to execute a correct burnout only on a vehicle where I can stand up and put some weight on the front during the process.So, burnout by me on a tall bike or on the GS may not be possible.

                    But I thought that there must be some technique by which a shorter person can execute it well by standing only on one foot.


                    This Yamaha FZ16 video shows that the stunt rider does a burn out with one foot down after he begins with both foot down
                    YouTube - YAMAHA FZ16, Byson STUNT RIDE
                    Last edited by MACH50; 02-17-2011, 09:27 PM.
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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by MACH50 View Post
                      Hello,
                      I started liking the Burnout stunt recently very much, and had also attempted it but I am failing everytime.

                      Well, I am a short height rider, I cannot reach both sides of my bike simultaneously and only my boot tips touch the ground at best.The seat height of my bike is 790mm, so when I stand up, it goes without saying that I am keeping the bike on one foot.

                      Even then I tried Burn-out with on foot down.

                      This is how I attempted it:
                      1.I started the bike and revved upto 6000 rpms.
                      2.Pulled in the front brake and held it there hard.
                      3.Pulled in the clutch.
                      4.Shifted to first gear.
                      5.Popped the clutch.

                      What happened is that the bike just jumps ahead after its rear spins once or twice sideways.It happens everytime.No matter how hard I brake or try to keep the weight forward on the high handlebars,the bike keeps going forward even with the front disc squeezed to the max.

                      Result is,I get more black marks on the tarmac from the front wheel rather than rear wheel

                      Please help me with some advice as to how a short rider like me can attempt a Burn-out successfully.
                      I guess you got the order of operation wrong!!..
                      it goes like...
                      1. Start the bike and let it idle.
                      2. Pull-in the clutch and engage 1st gear.
                      3. Lock the front brakes.
                      4. Revv the engine to say 6000rpm.
                      5. Leave the clutch halfway before popping it.
                      and there you have your rear wheel spinning and smoking..make sure you are maintaining the correct air pressure in your tyres..pumping-in a few extra psi would also aid in getting the back wheel spinning easily.
                      hope this has helped you bro..and happy smoking!!!
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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by xstunter View Post
                        @ Yaser its better if the TS does to learn a static burnout first.
                        The only reason for me suggesting the rolling burnout was keeping in mind that our friend can only get one foot on the ground - so maybe he cud get a better balance while having both feet on the footrest + that would also help tranfer more(complete) weight onto the handlebar - but then sure, that isn't too easy either until one learns the art hai na?

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                        • #13
                          +1 to GRZ , keep as much weight on front as possible and compress the front forks with your hands , you can even try sitting on tank with 1 foot on ground . otherwise front does not grip the road and bike will drag forward with front tire skidding instead of rear .

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                          • #14
                            @all who posted and wanted to help :

                            Today I had attempted both rolling and stand still burnout and I achieved some degree of success in both.Hence thank you all for advising.

                            I would specially like to thank Yaser and throttle_GRZ for their useful inputs.

                            The standstill burnout: Since I did not have the Fiero or the shorter bike with me today, so I did a small trick. I opened the seat of my GS150R and got on the bike, both my feet reached the ground albeit only the front of the feet touched the ground.Then I did exactly what throttle_grz suggested and maybe I had got a burnout.I had this feeling,at first the bike went sideways, meeting my leg firmly there it came to middle and then some sound like exploding of small firecrackers was heard from the rear wheel and I felt that the rear wheel was spinning at the same time.I maintained it in the first gear but only for 15 secs or so. Then I watched for marks on the tarmac and it did have black rubber marks but also rubber dust on it.I am not aware of any smoke since I was keeping all my weight on the front and didn't even care to look back.After this happily I tried to repeat the process once more, but failed twice after it and gave it up for the day.
                            The stupid front of the bike kept moving forward in all the later cases.Maybe I wasn't putting much weight on the front as I tried to look at the rear wheel this time.The high handlebars on this bike couple with my short height poses tough challenge for executing good burnouts on this bike.

                            The rolling burnout: This had to be the savage attempt. When my bike was clocking 22kmph or so, I got on the footpegs and put the weight of my entire torso on the handlebars and pulled in the brake gently with the clutch fully disengaged, the bike was about to stall when I started putting more throttle to it, The rear tyre screamed in protest as the bike slowly moved forward, I continued it for two metres or so and then suddenly the bike swayed left.Fearing about dropping the bike, I let go of the throttle and ended the rolling burnout.This time again I did not take note of any smoke but, I stopped my bike and looked back, well there was a wet black stretch of tyre mark on the road which confirms the tyre drag and scream was actually a burnout.But even this burnout was joined by failures before and after the successful attempt.The first time I tried to do it, The bike stalled.The last time I tried to do it the bike stalled again.

                            I hope after this I will get insights on how to refine this technique from others

                            For now I think I need a tank pad, because attempts of putting weight forward had the buckle of my belt scratch the tank
                            Last edited by MACH50; 02-19-2011, 01:36 AM.
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                            • #15
                              Good going mate, practice make man perfect so keep it going... and Tank pad is not only usefull for pulling such stunts but while crouching as well prom scratching your tank with belt or jacket zipper so get one ASAP

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