Let there be Light : Bike Lighting, HID etc

[Sandeep_K_Ram]

Originally Posted by Deepakumar

What is care tht we have to take b4 removing bulb and installing new. is tht true tht if we touch the bulb ith bare hands 10 to 15% of lighting is reduced? if we have touched it accidentally, wut shud we do to clean it?. and thanks for ur answer!

Careful in the sense - there is a bunch of wires on the right hand-side inside the fairing which are connected through a socket - while pulling out the fairing, you must disconnect it. If you happen to touch the bulb and smear it with your greasy hands - take a soft cloth and wipe it clean gently.

Originally Posted by Deepakumar

sandeep is the Holder model H4 or sumthin els?!!!

H4 .

Originally Posted by Absoluthavoc

ok guys, a lil help please, after reading a lot being said very highly of OSRAM Nightbreakers i went to the 2 wheeler market and 4 wheeler market @ Opera House mumbai to track down these bulbs.. but they were nowhere to be found. Infact there were no 60/55 (correct?) ones to be found.. all that everyone had was the 100/90 which i didnt pick up coz i was not sure for the compatibility into my p200.

Does anyone know where to get these bulbs here? some of the shops said OSRAM stopped making them and Philips are not too common in the market for the 2 wheeler specs.. not to mention the Philips vision plus were only available in a pair and were priced @ 1300/-

For P200 - unless you have done coil rewinding you will see no difference whatsoever with 60/55 or 100/90. You simply wont be running either of them at full power coz the magento doesn't deliver more than ~40W to you headlamps. So its of no use putting them on a P200 in stock state.

[Deepakumar]

Originally Posted by Sandeep_K_Ram

Careful in the sense - there is a bunch of wires on the right hand-side inside the fairing which are connected through a socket - while pulling out the fairing, you must disconnect it. If you happen to touch the bulb and smear it with your greasy hands - take a soft cloth and wipe it clean gently.



H4 .



For P200 - unless you have done coil rewinding you will see no difference whatsoever with 60/55 or 100/90. You simply wont be running either of them at full power coz the magento doesn't deliver more than ~40W to you headlamps. So its of no use putting them on a P200 in stock state.

Then is it Suitable for Karizma?

[Sandeep_K_Ram]

Yes dear ..if its H4 its definitely usable

[no1lives4ever]

Originally Posted by setuniket

Okay, installing a bulb in a bike is like changing bulb at your home, just that you need to unscrew the fairing as mentioned by Sandeep. Its not that tough and nothing will happen if you touch the blub, simply make sure your hands are clean or wipe the bulb once.

The bulb at your home is a regular incandescent bulb, while your bike's headlamp is almost certainly a quartz halogen bulb.

With quartz halogen bulbs, you should never touch the glass (quartz) surface with anything other than some clean paper. Ideally you should only hold the bulb from its metal portion and try to ensure that the bulb does not touch anything else between its journey from the protective covering in the box to the headlamp housing.

Any contaminant on the quartz of the halogen bulb will reduce the life of the bulb significantly. Fingerprints are especially bad. On a regular bulb nothing much happens, but on a quartz bulb the contaminant or fingerprints react with the quartz and weaken the bulb housing making it a lot more susceptible to damage.

-- no1lives4ever
PS: When halogen bulbs were new in India this was something very clearly mentioned in the packaging.

[Deepakumar]

Thanks for the info, No1 lives for eva!

[Absoluthavoc]

Originally Posted by Sandeep_K_Ram

For P200 - unless you have done coil rewinding you will see no difference whatsoever with 60/55 or 100/90. You simply wont be running either of them at full power coz the magento doesn't deliver more than ~40W to you headlamps. So its of no use putting them on a P200 in stock state.

yeah mate. i remember your advice. i was planning on getting the Eliminators Stator plate as someone said its coil produces more power and then change the bulb. As it turns out, i cant get hold of those OSRAM bulbs and they guys @ Sai Service bajaj said it was not worth taking a chance to rewind the coil or mess with the stator plate.

so now i guess HID is the only way to go? bloody expensive way to go too :P

[Sandeep_K_Ram]

^ Not necessarily - If you are interested in a HID PM me. A friend of mine is getting some from the USA for a good price.

Originally Posted by Deepakumar

Thank U veryMuch for ur response and info. Can we mod the electricals like this? and install a new button here?

I am sure its possible to add an extra switch to give you that option of switching off the bike with the switch rather than the key ..maybe it will take some work ...but I am not sure you can get a switch placed so ergonomically on the RHS switchgear ...I meant to say it might look ugly coz its tough to blend it into the console there and i am not sure if there is enough space beneath the top cover.

But a 2way/3way switch can be installed somewhere on the handlebar definitely.

[need4torque]

Originally Posted by Deepakumar

Thank U veryMuch for ur response and info. Can we mod the electricals like this? and install a new button here?

thats quite neatly done!
I have stuck to the tried and tested path of enlightenment. I am running an Avenger coil+rr unit with a osram silverstar 60/55 w bulb. It has done wonders and would have done even better with a better reflector.

[Deepakumar]

Originally Posted by need4torque

thats quite neatly done!
I have stuck to the tried and tested path of enlightenment. I am running an Avenger coil+rr unit with a osram silverstar 60/55 w bulb. It has done wonders and would have done even better with a better reflector.

have u tried night breaker if so which one is good Silverstar or nightbreaker?

[Sandeep_K_Ram]

Originally Posted by Deepakumar

u mean Bi-xenon HID ? how much ill it cost for one? can u send me a pic of 2way or 3 way switch tht we get here? or els can we get same switch gear controls of any other bike which has a EK switch and which exactly fits to ZMA

Yes. Bi-Xenon. I will PM you the details.

Originally Posted by Deepakumar

Sandeep could u please tell me how much a Splitfire cable for karizma costs and plz if u have a pic of how it looks plz upload it

There are types of Split fire cables. One of them is Rs 4xx and the other is 8xx. Latter is a "2-core" cable... I have no experience with either of them. However George Katie has bought them recently and you can ask him if he feels any different on his ZMA...

Sorry I dont have any pics.