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Old 10-05-2008, 04:16 PM   #1 (permalink)
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This is Gulshan Hanspal from Ahmedabad. Currently i own a Bajaj Pulsar 150 DTSi and i'm planning to buy a new bike which is >150 cc and <220 cc. After lot of thinking i have selected Bajaj Pulsar 200 cc and Yamaha FZ16, but i am still confused. So i was wandering if you could help me out. Please reply soon. Eagerly awaiting your reply....

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Old 10-05-2008, 06:11 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Old 10-05-2008, 07:31 PM   #3 (permalink)
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This is Gulshan Hanspal from Ahmedabad. Currently i own a Bajaj Pulsar 150 DTSi and i'm planning to buy a new bike which is >150 cc and <220 cc. After lot of thinking i have selected Bajaj Pulsar 200 cc and Yamaha FZ16, but i am still confused. So i was wandering if you could help me out. Please reply soon. Eagerly awaiting your reply....

Thanx in anticipation
Hi g_rokz..understood that you have finalised two bikes..if you would post some more info as in why u short listed these two biikes..we would be in a better position to und..
what your needs are.. you can highlight these points and add acording to your own thinking..:
1) your run of kilometers
2) what kind of performance u expect
3) plus points of bike
4) negitive points
5) mileage
etc etc..
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Old 10-05-2008, 08:21 PM   #4 (permalink)
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personal recommendation... Pulsar 200...


reasons...
1. pulsars are time tested and they have proved themselves to be the most rugged bike on Indian conditions. where as Yamahas are the entrants.... read the forum on R15 and you will find problems like rusty number plate and broken alloys... well to say they have made ultra light bikes by comprising on the quality front... to get the acceleration and top speed out of low engine capacity... but as such my friend this in Indian condition is not possible... we ride our bikes day in and day out...and not just for track days... we need something rugged.

2. compare the P200 and FZ16 in front of your eyes.. and you would be able to know that P200 is bigger in size thought FZ16 has got matcho tyres but the biker feeling comes on p200. and as such P200 is not giving after sale problems... Pulsars have a better resale value than FZ16..

3. MIleage front...both have same mileage more or less... see this doesn't bother me much so maybe I am wrong. varify for yourself... though pulsar 200 gives a mileage of 40-45 and looking at P180 would also be a good option if you are mileage conscious.

4. too many on roads... yups this is what that annoys me most about pulsars you find them everywhere from roads to gallies to malls... everywhere and then you also find worst of the punks on Pulsars this is even worse... as if pulsar gives 200% confidence to punks.


5. spares are never a problem when on a pulsar. and so you would easily find a mechanic.

6. all pulsars look the same... yups I am also trying to find uniqueness in commoness...

7. pricing... pulsar would cost you... P200=71K and P180= I don't know...62K hopefully.
FZ16= 69K.
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also apceh rtr carb and efi is also there
i think rtr carb cost arnd 68-69k whereas efi is slighty xpensive around 73-74k and also look out for r15
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@ all .. let him finish his requirements ..
he barely gave his requiremnts .. so please give a detail requirement ..
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Hey Guyz.....Thanx a lot. Ur suggestions were excellent and and especially ankit mishra......Thanx a lot.
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FZ 16 take a test ride of both the bikes and let your priorities decide dont let your mind in decide from heart.
My opinion is FZ 16 Yamaha's revival is definitely going to do good.
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here - pulsar 200 is worth the thing !.may be wait for EFI model?
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Old 10-06-2008, 12:20 AM   #10 (permalink)
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entertainment ho gayi yeh toh. Atleast please let him speak his mind, before we wax eloquent essentially revalidating our own purchases/prejudices. I like both bikes (not ridden FZ16) but wont recommend anything unless we figure what you want.

And since ankit ji has written a detailed sorta balanced post, I shall add to his points here:
1. Nonsense really. Yammies have been around long enough. The fit and finish on P200 is not even comparable to yammies. Plus BAL cost cutting is insane. Take a simple example. P180 v2 (white alloys) came with transparent glass window for disc brake fluid. KBX(?) made it and the top portion except callipers came for 650 - now Endurance(?) makes it and the whole assembly except the disc is some 800 bucks. I am currently traveling, but can verify the same within a coupla weeks - or u can pm popsha. That said, the P200 engine is fantastic. No two ways about it. But ask anyone whose opened up the engine (santoosh) about the thickness of p180classic valves (5.5mm) versus DTSi onwards (4.5mm?). BAL makes great VFM products, but to assume Yammie isnt rugged is umm a load of what comes from the rearside of a horse. No one's black/white.

2. I am lost. How does a few mm more on P200 give the "biker feeling"? And resale? please - even if it is. at max about 5-10k (worst case) in 2-3 years? By which time, you'll be earning and that amount won't matter much. Bikes are as much a decision of the heart!

4/6. Agree. FZ16 is quite a headturner.

5. Most motorcycles should not pain you much within 40-50k. That's more than enough a city rider would do in many many years. But yes, spares would be a question. I'd let the Glady guys respond. I see quite many R15s as much as I see Gladys. FZ16 should do well.

7. Like he said - irrelevant

Net to net, its about what YOUR heart tells you - so please listen to that.
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