spartan985

hey guys, am a newbie around here.need ur help on selecting a new bike.currently am riding a passion plus.i want 2 upgrade 2 a more powerful bike. after much delibration i have zeroed in on the fastest indian and the good old war horse (karizma) i like both the bikes.both of them have their own pros and cons.pulsars being the reliability issue and the poor built whereas karizma scores in both these sectors.what i have got against her is the commuter like seating,outated looks nd tech and the absence of tubeless tyres.ill be riding around 25kms per day in traffic nd will do a bit of touring as well in the weekends.my budget is around 80000.plz chip in with ur suggestions guys whatever they may be.nd guys am not intrstd in the rtr 180 ,fazer nd r15.plz help me in choosing between ma 2 favourites.thx in advance guys

Aryan

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vipin_s

If you feel so then Zma-R should be automatic choice

ken cool

Murugan is slower than an earthworm compared to you! You are so well informed about a bike's reliability that has been released barely a month ago!

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haha ...

vipin_s

@ken sir, those were not my words

Shanz

Ur mindset said everything..
Its the Karizma R!

Though advice for u..
Either wait n buy the Karizma fi or the P220 09 coz zma R is REALLY OUTDATED!!

ceasar

if u want some raw power...go for p220 dtsi....if u want better handling ZMA...i have rode p220 dtsi...believe me itz a beast ..ZMA is laggy and outdated but scores in the handling section..
and dude..people bookmarked pulsars for bad reliability and poor built....this is a big mistake,..all have been inheriting the same from them...ofcourse there were issues ..but bajaj have resolved them and this UG4 is much refined..so think again!
iam not saying this bcoz i own a pulsar..itz their views ..i have ridden RTR 160,180 ...evry where in the forums u see praises for RTR though there r many cons ....people hide them ...so this impression is carried all the way...YES there r pros..that could have influenced them..but that doesn't mean that they should hide the CONS..
this is same for every bike..every bike has pros and cons
...iam saying this bcoz people should remove this misconceptions about pulsar...they have noticed the cons of pulsar in earlier and spread that like a plague..now they forgot to notice the improvements that pulsar has undergone...so ppl judge a bike on ur experience not from others words!

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niranjanvaidya

Oh! Another one!?!!! Well, please read one of the archived war manuals on this site

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Compared to the P220 DTS-Fi, the Handling of the 2009 P220 DTS-i is a world apart.. it is now much more stable and confidence inspiring around corners.

This has happened thanks to stiffer suspension settings and softer compund tyres and thanks to the constant nagging by communities like xBhp and auto mags about the older P220 DTS-Fi's nervous handling around the race track.

The Front end of the Karizma has a light feeling compared to the P220, this does help in low speed flickability but out on open highways and in crosswinds, the P220 feels more planted and stable at higher speeds.