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  • #31
    Re: Motorcycle Accidents - Cause, Factors & Identification of Countermeasures

    Originally posted by rkakkar View Post
    A cow will either stand or move forward. So for a cow/bull always ride from behind them. In case of a dog, you just can't say! Even if you go from behind the dog, he can turn 180 degrees and run in your direction (I was touring in Rajasthan with a friend who was riding in front of me and had an accident in this manner). Your take away from this, when you see a dog, slow down a LOT and horn like mad, if you're not confident of his intentions.
    Never horn like mad at any animal, especially dogs. they freeze up there with fear. They have very sensitive hearing. you blowing the horn, the truck ahead blowing the horn and the animal will be confused which way to go that could endanger its life as well as some other idiot's life who does not care about animals on the road.

    You will most likely to encounter dogs or cattle just before reaching a village which would suggest there might be people as well.

    for a dog, you should slow down almost to stand still speeds and avoid startling the animal.

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    Yesterday, me and my brother were going for a ride. the road from home is a narrow one, only a rtc bus would fit and a off-road room for a motorcycle.

    these college kids were walking on the other side of the road. this rtc bus was coming very fast, by that time I could see there was no room for me to avoid collision as there wont be much room for the bus between me and the people on the other side. I had to think quickly and what I did was steered into middle of the road, madly flashed the pass light, I applied the brakes ready to steer the bike into whatever space I would get out of the situation or else me and the pedestrians would be at risk, But the driver was too fast. though he applied the brakes, it was just enough for me to get off the road and was on the edge of the road. still, the side of the bus brushed my handle bar as he was avoiding the pedestrians.

    Here the points to be note are, the bus was going too fast for the driver to control. the brakes might not have been working well. the pedestirans were plainly ignorant, since they could have stepped a bit off from the road and allowed the bus, but they were involved in deeply intellectual conversation which was a matter of national security.

    what saved me was the good brakes and handling of the bike and also experiencing such instances before and had a good rider teach me motorcycling.

    whatever the case may be, 1 idoit on the road - avoidable, more than 1 idiot- your life is in god's hands. and since our roads are full of idiots, its just like a video game.
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    • #32
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      • #33
        Re: Motorcycle Accidents - Cause, Factors & Identification of Countermeasures

        Originally posted by surampudijagadeesh View Post
        Never horn like mad at any animal, especially dogs. they freeze up there with fear. They have very sensitive hearing. you blowing the horn, the truck ahead blowing the horn and the animal will be confused which way to go that could endanger its life as well as some other idiot's life who does not care about animals on the road.

        You will most likely to encounter dogs or cattle just before reaching a village which would suggest there might be people as well.

        for a dog, you should slow down almost to stand still speeds and avoid startling the animal.

        ----consecutive posts auto-merged-----

        Yesterday, me and my brother were going for a ride. the road from home is a narrow one, only a rtc bus would fit and a off-road room for a motorcycle.

        these college kids were walking on the other side of the road. this rtc bus was coming very fast, by that time I could see there was no room for me to avoid collision as there wont be much room for the bus between me and the people on the other side. I had to think quickly and what I did was steered into middle of the road, madly flashed the pass light, I applied the brakes ready to steer the bike into whatever space I would get out of the situation or else me and the pedestrians would be at risk, But the driver was too fast. though he applied the brakes, it was just enough for me to get off the road and was on the edge of the road. still, the side of the bus brushed my handle bar as he was avoiding the pedestrians.

        Here the points to be note are, the bus was going too fast for the driver to control. the brakes might not have been working well. the pedestirans were plainly ignorant, since they could have stepped a bit off from the road and allowed the bus, but they were involved in deeply intellectual conversation which was a matter of national security.

        what saved me was the good brakes and handling of the bike and also experiencing such instances before and had a good rider teach me motorcycling.

        whatever the case may be, 1 idoit on the road - avoidable, more than 1 idiot- your life is in god's hands. and since our roads are full of idiots, its just like a video game.
        Yeah, in India accidents are in God's hands. Hell, you can't even compare it to video games, at least they have cheat codes Indian roads and highways are full of stupid pedestrians who think they are superman (or wonderwoman), all they do is walk on the paved part of the highway and shouts offensive comments when you get close to them, once a guy called me motherc**d as I had to countersteer to avoid him. When I was young, around 17, I used to carry an old bicycle chain with me, I'd whip it out if anybody messes with me, especially I had and still have strong hatred for people you encounter in the rural areas who get drunk on local liquors known as "sulai" or rice beer called "lau pani". They seem to think the road came with his/her mother as dowry.
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        • #34
          Re: Motorcycle Accidents - Cause, Factors & Identification of Countermeasures

          Originally posted by Cleaner View Post
          Yeah, in India accidents are in God's hands. Hell, you can't even compare it to video games, at least they have cheat codes Indian roads and highways are full of stupid pedestrians who think they are superman (or wonderwoman), all they do is walk on the paved part of the highway and shouts offensive comments when you get close to them, once a guy called me motherc**d as I had to countersteer to avoid him. When I was young, around 17, I used to carry an old bicycle chain with me, I'd whip it out if anybody messes with me, especially I had and still have strong hatred for people you encounter in the rural areas who get drunk on local liquors known as "sulai" or rice beer called "lau pani". They seem to think the road came with his/her mother as dowry.
          +1 to that. let me reiterate an incident which I think might have mentioned in some other thread. I was going to office which was 60km from home. i was riding at 70kmph on a single road. suddenly a kid from some bushes behind a bus stop came running across the road. I applied brakes very hard. the kid did not hit me but crossed the road and fell on some gravel. I could go on, but unfortunately wanted to know if the kid was ok. after seeing me stop, the kid started screaming I hit him. and came from out of nowhere some witnesses. I stood my ground and took the kid to hospital to get him checked, the villagers wanted compensation not treatment. I did not budge. I told them to go to police(since I had some friends at the near by police stations). they were the ones that turned out to be fools that day but since then I slow down to about 40to50kmph when i go through a village.

          But if i did panic and lost my control something bad really might have happened.

          Here the most important things are to get your peripheral vision as good as it can get. keep your cool and stop being afraid. when you are afraid and you panic things go wrong. in unavoidable circumstances, fear will be of no use, so stop being afraid. initially when going on highways or long rides for first time, go slow and at a pace in which you can completely control your bike. speed will come naturally.

          Another type of accident: when you have to go off-road because of some idiot bus/truck/car drivers as mentioned in my last post. What I do is if I am sure or not sure that I have enough space to avoid the vehicle, I never give way immediately. It only makes your escape route narrower. I initially slow down to manageable speed and come somewhat onwards on the road to indicate I don't have enough space along with flashing light and honking mad. what this does is, sometimes, the idiot will notice the problem if not always and wont come more into your lane. when they feel they are too close, they will give some way to us and we should be at a speed where we are in complete control of the bike to take the opportunity.
          Last edited by surampudijagadeesh; 08-11-2013, 04:35 PM.
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          • #35
            Re: Motorcycle Accidents - Cause, Factors & Identification of Countermeasures


            The picture of the jugaad I was using. Found a second hand handle at junkyard and replaced it now though.
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            • #36
              Re: Motorcycle Accidents - Cause, Factors & Identification of Countermeasures

              Originally posted by Cleaner View Post
              The picture of the jugaad I was using. Found a second hand handle at junkyard and replaced it now though.
              Jugaad for what?? Complete details please, if you don't mind!!
              BENEATH THE REMAINS.........
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              • #37
                Re: Motorcycle Accidents - Cause, Factors & Identification of Countermeasures

                Originally posted by chaosaddict View Post
                Jugaad for what?? Complete details please, if you don't mind!!
                chaosaddict, here's the back story

                Originally posted by Cleaner View Post
                I have a question, not just a question but a question mixed with observation. I was coming from Teok town on a bicycle at evening, around 7PM, at the outskirt of Teok Town there is a blind curve at the highway. As we are all aware, NH37 is pretty narrow for a trucking route and the unpaved sides of the highway is very narrow, one and a half foot wide at max in that portion. It was dark and as bicycles don't have a headlamp, I was forced to use my judgements and other vehicle's light to guide me on the road. Just when I was in the middle of the curve, a super bus tried to overtake another super bus occupying both lanes. There was no room for any two wheeler to move, I could have moved t the unpaved road but after the rain, the unpaved road was very muddy and slippery and a deep ravine lies next to the narrow unpaved part. I was scared, and had t make a choice between getting hit by a super bus or to break my bones by moving to the unpaved part of the road, the choice was obvious. I moved, but the super still hit me, somehow I managed not to fall but the handle of my bicycle which was already rusted near the grip was broken. had to ride back home by sticking a pieces of dry branch in the handle. I'm still using this jugaad as I don't have the money to fix it right now.

                I'd like to know your opinions on my decision and would be grateful if you tell me what should I have done during that incident to avoid that accident.
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                • #38
                  Re: Motorcycle Accidents - Cause, Factors & Identification of Countermeasures

                  Originally posted by Cleaner View Post
                  chaosaddict, here's the back story
                  Oh K,, sorry, my bad, I forgot - read that long ago!!! BTW jugaad looks good to me post the complete look, if possible.
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                  • #39
                    Re: Motorcycle Accidents - Cause, Factors & Identification of Countermeasures

                    Now the handle has been replaced with a second hand one I found in junkyard. Sorry, forgot to take pics of the bicycle in full.
                    Anyway I'm gonna work online and buy a bike in a year or two. The small dairy business is no longer profitable here after some big players got in and are controlling the fodder price.
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                    • #40
                      Re: Motorcycle Accidents - Cause, Factors & Identification of Countermeasures

                      Had a crash yesterday, was coming back from having supper from some place, still don't understand how I managed to get myself into such a stupid condition.
                      I was riding on the right side of the road, in front of me a Honda City, to the left of the Honda, a state bus and to my left a Hyundai i20. No space then for me to go past either of them.
                      The Honda sped up to overtake the bus, I sped up too so I can overtake the Honda as soon as it overtakes the bus and clears the way for me.
                      Suddenly the Honda driver discovers a speed breaker in front of him and slows down rapidly. At this point the bus is still on the left of the car and the divider to its right.
                      I at this point doing around 40-45 kph brake hard on both the brakes to at least to stop ramming into the Honda. I am not much sure but felt the rear and to some extent the front tire skid and the rear even started kicking out a bit (at that speed ). Within a couple of seconds I find myself and bike lying on our left just beyond the damn speed breaker.
                      Three dudes with leather jackets and elbow tattoos come out of the car. But the guys were rather friendly and just told me why I was going so fast (which I think I was not) and left. Even though I am not sure how much impact I made on the Honda, my bike won't start now and leaking fuel from somewhere around the center stand!! (have to get it checked)

                      I was actually surprised to see the guys in the Honda to just leave like that, because it happened so fast, I was not sure how much impact I did on it. They did not seem drunk or anything but was it their sudden braking or my lack of reflex which is to blame more ?
                      Even though I think it was my fault not being able to brake properly or keep the bike upright, it would help if you guys could share how the incident could be avoided.

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                      • #41
                        Re: Motorcycle Accidents - Cause, Factors & Identification of Countermeasures

                        Originally posted by braveheart.cse View Post
                        Had a crash yesterday, was coming back from having supper from some place, still don't understand how I managed to get myself into such a stupid condition.
                        I was riding on the right side of the road, in front of me a Honda City, to the left of the Honda, a state bus and to my left a Hyundai i20. No space then for me to go past either of them.
                        The Honda sped up to overtake the bus, I sped up too so I can overtake the Honda as soon as it overtakes the bus and clears the way for me.
                        Suddenly the Honda driver discovers a speed breaker in front of him and slows down rapidly. At this point the bus is still on the left of the car and the divider to its right.
                        I at this point doing around 40-45 kph brake hard on both the brakes to at least to stop ramming into the Honda. I am not much sure but felt the rear and to some extent the front tire skid and the rear even started kicking out a bit (at that speed ). Within a couple of seconds I find myself and bike lying on our left just beyond the damn speed breaker.
                        Three dudes with leather jackets and elbow tattoos come out of the car. But the guys were rather friendly and just told me why I was going so fast (which I think I was not) and left. Even though I am not sure how much impact I made on the Honda, my bike won't start now and leaking fuel from somewhere around the center stand!! (have to get it checked)

                        I was actually surprised to see the guys in the Honda to just leave like that, because it happened so fast, I was not sure how much impact I did on it. They did not seem drunk or anything but was it their sudden braking or my lack of reflex which is to blame more ?
                        Even though I think it was my fault not being able to brake properly or keep the bike upright, it would help if you guys could share how the incident could be avoided.
                        1. You were tailgating another automobile and you did not have enough braking distance - Your mistake.
                        2. You were following the car when it was overtaking a bus. You should have probably waited for the car to finish it's overtaking maneuver and then proceeded with yours.
                        3. You might practice applying both the brakes simultaneously and also use engine braking effectively.

                        You were lucky nothing major happened and the guys in the car were considerate. Ride Safe!
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                        • #42
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                          Just a lil something which i felt responsible to share. Please consider n keep sharing.

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                          • #43
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                            Always accelerate to overtake when you have visually checked that the road ahead is clear. Here is an accident video -

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                            • #44
                              Re: Motorcycle Accidents - Cause, Factors & Identification of Countermeasures

                              So this happened :/

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                              • #45
                                Re: Motorcycle Accidents - Cause, Factors & Identification of Countermeasures

                                ^ what's up with the accent? Not from India?
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                                Therefore, Wander!
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