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**amit01** · 01-22-2016, 09:08 PM

Re: Need suggestions for a New "Road" Bicycle around Rs.40-50,000

Originally posted by Kaushik Iyer View Post

Btw a Btwin triban roadbike is on sale at cyclop in Bombay. You must check it out

I am unable to find any link for it... can you please provide me the link for it?

**Kaushik Iyer** · 01-23-2016, 09:16 AM

Re: Need suggestions for a New "Road" Bicycle around Rs.40-50,000

One of them is here.. This guy was diagnosed with cancer and is selling all off for 40k a good bike. Hence pls don't negotiate further https://m.facebook.com/groups/392351...55443017838258

I guess that Btwin was from cochin. But u can check this out very nice bike I'm Ahmedabad - https://m.facebook.com/groups/392351...58846430831250

**jack_daniels** · 01-23-2016, 06:32 PM

Re: Need suggestions for a New "Road" Bicycle around Rs.40-50,000

Originally posted by Kaushik Iyer View Post

I guess you mis-read the 2nd hand bit of the thread, If you read again I've never mentioned any repairing, infact what I wanted to emphasize to you is even 2nd hand bikes are really really good & lasts for a very long time.

Also not be rude but honestly no amount of money can get you faster on your bicycle! No amount of money spent on the lightest of bike is going to make climbing grades any easier - yes a stiffer bike will give better power-transfer & hence make you feel it's going up faster, but it'll be equally exhausting (the total watts required by a particular weight cyclist to get over a particular hill is always constant). Same holds true for riding at a specific speed on a flat road.

So in reality a better bike is only helping transfer you energy better & wasting lesser but the required energy spent will always be the same, it's only the rider who needs to get more efficient at spending & generating that energy.

So to be plain blunt - If you're thinking that having a better bike is simply gonna give you higher avg speed then you'll be wasting your money, Yes coming from a Avon bike you'll probably get much better speed but then it'll simply plateau, coz it's not gonna make you faster by any big margin maybe 1 or 2 kmph difference that's all. To give you a perspective one of my friends has a brand new Specialized Allez which costed him about 1.2lks but no matter how much he tries he'll not be able to beat me even on a hero-hawk! the same will hold true for me if I try to race with a guy called Dhiren, he once beat everybody in a local Road-race on him MTB!!! Why ----- Fitness!!!

What I'm trying to say is if you get yourself fitter you'll be much faster on your present bike itself rather than spending money to buy speed. And to be honest at this level of fitness you should not be looking at Brevets. I know a lot of people will say nothing happens, participation is important etc but all that is nonsence. It's no point riding a 200km brevet in 13hrs by dragging yourself.

I think having a better & lighter bike does make a difference. When I was in 9th class, I bought a geared roadbike. & I was able to roam with higher efficiency & speed all over guwahati. & not feel exhausted. Earlier, with my heavy, geared mountain bike, I'd get really exhausted even from a 5 km trip.!

So, yeah I feel the lighter & better quality components do make a world of difference to biking.

The things u said above about Hero hawk & MTB can be done by very very few people in real world.[emoji16] [emoji14]

**sparky** · 01-23-2016, 06:42 PM

Re: Need suggestions for a New "Road" Bicycle around Rs.40-50,000

Your budget is on the lower side for a good road bicycle, but between 50k-60k you might get your hands on KHS, Giant and maybe you can try your luck at an older model Trek with a dealer. But remember, if you are spending so much you must be ready to spend a good amount of time per week/month to make use of the investment.

**amit01** · 01-24-2016, 12:30 PM

Re: Need suggestions for a New "Road" Bicycle around Rs.40-50,000

Originally posted by jack_daniels View Post

The things u said above about Hero hawk & MTB can be done by very very few people in real world.[emoji16] [emoji14]

I totally agree with you on this, some "riders" are extraordinary...

**Kaushik Iyer** · 01-24-2016, 01:26 PM

Re: Need suggestions for a New &quot;Road&quot; Bicycle around Rs.40-50,000

Honestly you guys are really underrating fitness over machine. It will not matter how much great a bike you have if you are unfit you will be slower than someone with a higher fitness and even an average or simple bike. The advantage of better bikes only comes into play at much higher speeds or steep climbs. At slow puttering speeds of 10-15kmph any bike is fine.

**amit01** · 01-24-2016, 05:42 PM

Re: Need suggestions for a New &quot;Road&quot; Bicycle around Rs.40-50,000

Originally posted by Kaushik Iyer View Post

At slow puttering speeds of 10-15kmph any bike is fine.

this is the "speed" I get no matter how hard I ride... I totally agree, "fitness" is important but it is not only thing... otherwise why there are so many sizes, shapes, types of bikes??? there would have been just one type... thats it... all other things would be dependent on "fitness" only

I think fitness and type of bike complement each other, I am not talking about "extreme and extraordinary people and bikes"... all I want is the minimum "fitness", "brevet" capable bike to participate in 200,300,400,600. These events are not for "speed" but still they have maximum "time limit" and I want to prepare to be in that "time limit", at least for now...

**Kaushik Iyer** · 01-24-2016, 07:26 PM

Re: Need suggestions for a New &amp;quot;Road&amp;quot; Bicycle around Rs.40-50,000

Look let me clarify.. And I again say its based on my experience on quite a few types of bikes, many types of rides and many brevets along with a PBP in 2011.
In the world of cycling the order is like this...
-fitness (overall stamina and ability to store energy, basically aerobic and anaerobic levels)
-training (how effectively have you trained for an event specific to its needs)
-energy economy (how efficient you are energy spending, and rejuvenation)
-bike (how good a bike is: i.e. Power transfer, wheels and frame, how it fits you, how is it tuned for the event specific)

Now no matter what you feel or how much you argue the above fact is not going to change.period. I had similar feelings earlier but I learnt it overtime.

Yes a good fitness and training will compliment any bike, good or average, but not the other way around; That's all I can say and rest my case here.

I've already told you how you can progress for brevets.. Again someone else might say to simply jump in thinking 15kmhp is all they need for a brevet. Or you can Google and find out many great training plans for brevets made by sensible riders.

So at last I can only say, Why don't you go ahead and get one of those bikes as suggested above, get into brevets and find out for yourself how things pan out. For all you know it might be all very different for you than what is usually the case in cycling.

**The Monk** · 01-25-2016, 11:55 AM

Re: Need suggestions for a New "Road" Bicycle around Rs.40-50,000

Originally posted by jack_daniels View Post

I think having a better & lighter bike does make a difference. When I was in 9th class, I bought a geared roadbike. & I was able to roam with higher efficiency & speed all over guwahati. & not feel exhausted. Earlier, with my heavy, geared mountain bike, I'd get really exhausted even from a 5 km trip.!

So, yeah I feel the lighter & better quality components do make a world of difference to biking.

The things u said above about Hero hawk & MTB can be done by very very few people in real world.[emoji16] [emoji14]

Yes it does make a difference.

NO it doesn't make as much of a difference as your fitness.

That is the point being made which is being lost on you me thinks!

**amit01** · 01-25-2016, 08:04 PM

Re: Need suggestions for a New &amp;quot;Road&amp;quot; Bicycle around Rs.40-50,000

Originally posted by Kaushik Iyer View Post

Look let me clarify..
So at last I can only say, Why don't you go ahead and get one of those bikes as suggested above, get into brevets and find out for yourself how things pan out. For all you know it might be all very different for you than what is usually the case in cycling.

I will try to cover 100km under 5 hours and if possible, 200km under 11 hours on current one first!

It will not harm anyway but increase my fitness, which I certainly don't have enough for these events...

**amit01** · 03-03-2016, 09:26 AM

Re: Need suggestions for a New &amp;quot;Road&amp;quot; Bicycle around Rs.40-50,000

Originally posted by Kaushik Iyer View Post

Originally posted by The Monk View Post

Recently I tried riding longest distance... I was able to do 149.7 km on my current bicycle/bike...
it took me nearly 12 hours of which actual running time was 9:40 hours...
how much more practice is needed to ride with current bike for brevet events??? or should i purchase XXS size road bike?

please help

**The Monk** · 03-03-2016, 12:38 PM

Re: Need suggestions for a New "Road" Bicycle around Rs.40-50,000

Ah ha! Just the man i was looking for. Below are a couple of screenshots of two very short rides i did. Both the rides were done in the morning, within a span of a week. Same route, weather, rider and everything.

The only difference between the two rides is the cycle. One is done on my off-roader and the other on my hyper-sports

This is as direct a comparison i can give of how much difference a bike can make. Apparently 2 kmph for an unfit cyclist like me

**Kaushik Iyer** · 03-03-2016, 05:32 PM

Re: Need suggestions for a New "Road" Bicycle around Rs.40-50,000

This is my last uploaded ride.... since I've yet not loaded my last week's ride.
- https://www.strava.com/activities/498464556

While in no way can I compare different bike genre since I only have road bikes. but even there are strains of roadbikes/ different setups which I have, carbon-road race, steel-endurance, allu-race & a Fixe.

As for longest rides on strava I've about 200km

Although the longest I've ridden is about 680km in an unsuccessful attempt for PBP but data only for 578km got recorded.
Anyway attaching one of my favourite 600km route which I managed in about 30hrs total & was back to bombay before the finish time

. It was esp enjoyable because a previous attempt on this very route left in me tatters by 40hrs & I dragged myself to the finish, but the 2nd attempt I threw my old time out of the window

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**The Monk** · 03-03-2016, 05:50 PM

Re: Need suggestions for a New "Road" Bicycle around Rs.40-50,000

Originally posted by Kaushik Iyer View Post

This is my last uploaded ride.... since I've yet not loaded my last week's ride.

Wow. You do knock back some good pace!

I like the name of your ride "Snob Roadies ride"

That is one thing i have always felt, cyclists are a bunch of elitists, especially roadies

Have you by any chance ridden at the TfN by any chance?

You did a 200 Brevet on a Fixie. That would have been suicide!

**sayi89** · 03-03-2016, 06:21 PM

Re: Need suggestions for a New "Road" Bicycle around Rs.40-50,000

Originally posted by Kaushik Iyer View Post

As for longest rides on strava I've about 200km

Yeah, as Monk said..200 brevet on fixie is indeed something. That looks like a Mumbai- Charoti-Mumbai 200 ?? For returning back on 52 X 18 , your quads must have been super strong. I even walked in some those stretches during Chikli 400 on NH 8 while coming back to Mumbai.

Also was surprised, that Strava is active even from 2011, that is while I'm still in grad riding some bulky bicycle covering a max of 15-20 kms.

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